I don't know...I'm just not getting much from this site. I mean, I'm not very good at participating in real life; I tend to hang back and let other do the talking. I'm not very outgoing, point, period, end of discussion. But I'm trying to review things, play some word games, 'participate'. I've been sort of low because I'm not getting any feedback from what I've posted so far, which is just some lyrics. What I have got is pretty well all negative. I'm sort of leery about posting any of my novels, because so far people seem to be ignoring me, same as in real life...

I know a lot of my stuff is depressing so far, but I haven't had a reason to post anything happier, because it's even worse. It just feel wrong and fake. I'm not going to put up a front of being some happy-go-stupid freakin fluff brain simply for good reviews. That's not me, and it's not going to be me, but if what is me is so bad, just let me go shoot myself and put myself out of my goddamn misery.

A little explanation: writing is my life. It's all I've ever done, it's all I can ever do. Everything else I touch turns so dust, and it's beginning to look like the same fate's coming for this.

So come on, people. Come on and talk to me some. I'm not asking for ego-stroking, because it'd be lies. I just want a little input. And if you're just not interested in me or my work, can someone just tell me so, so I can stop wondering and find something I can do?

-Chazen



there's probably not even anyone online. what the **** am i doing...

Patience, young padawan! You have eleven posts.
Patience!
Also, whining isn't cool.
Alright, the whining bit was tactless. Let me rephrase it: You're allowed to be dark. Everyone's lives suck to some degree. But making a 'talk to me' topic goes from dark to whiny. And that kind of whining ain't cool. Not when you're just into the double-digits of posting.
Life! It Takes Time.
(This slogan for existence brought to you by me.)

I'm not whining. I'm bitching. I'm out of patience, luck, and anything aproaching happiness. I'm just sick of it.

Well, just fyi, you're more likely to get replies in novel than in song lyrics. Not as many people on here are song writers. And someone is always online..

on other writing forums people liked my lyrics better than my novels. it seemed like a better place to start. and somebody may always be online, but they probably don't have anything to say about my writing, because they are probably illiterate and think the cd trey is a cupholder.

Honestly, in my experience the song lyrics sections doesn't get much attention. But I do find that there are a few people on here all the time and a lot have good input, just take a deep breathe, don't do anything drastic and be a little more patient. It will all be okay.

yeah, eventually, but I'll be dead from old age by then

My cd tray is used for cds. But it's hard for me to review song lyrics without hearing it.

Your fourteen, I'm nine years older than you, hang around for nine years then get back to me.

Check it out I'll review your lyrics right now.

yeah thanks...great, another person to dis me about my age...just what I need.

To Crazy Ivan... thanks for telling me I'm allowed to be dark (yes, that is sincerity, are you suprised...) but you see, I try to express myself through poetry\music to keep from killing someone or myself, but when I post this later (rather disturbed by my own work, by then), hoping to find that other people on planet earth feel the same way and I'm not losing my mind...nothing. radio silence. I start thinking, What the hell? Is there a reason I'm coming up with this? AM I really alone, as I feel in my darker moments? Is it bad that I alone am depressed when the rest of humanity just trots through life like so many brainless cattle, because I alone can see what's going on? ...This is what I think. This is what I'm trying to get out of my system through poetry. And this just comes back to me when I'm ignored.

I'm sure it's not 'cool' to post talk-to-me's. I'm just trying to reach out and touch someone here (with a machete if necessary), tell them for real what I'm trying to tell them in poetry. I'm just trying to keep myself sane. Is that wrong?

Not at all.

well then what the HELL is going on. to be dramatic, everything I do seems to make things worse

I'm not sure that being a martyr is the way to establish yourself when you join a site!

I'm not trying to be a martyr...martyrs die. I'm trying to avoid that. heads are rolling and here I sit in the midst, laughing...

Help us out a little bit. Exactly what is it you are looking to get out of this site? You say you want feedback but you don't like the feedback you have gotten. You expressed the belief that others on this site might be illiterate and not terribly bright. So what on earth could we do for you?

Help us out a little bit. Exactly what is it you are looking to get out of this site? You say you want feedback but you don't like the feedback you have gotten. You expressed the belief that others on this site might be illiterate and not terribly bright. So what on earth could we do for you?

This as well. Asking for criticism and then complaining about it is not a smart move. If you want criticism prepare for people pointing out the negatives. I always flinch at my mistakes, but never ignore criticism

pull up your slacks and get on with it. it is cowardly to hang out in dark places all the time.

hi, chazen. welcome to the liquid crystal picture elements of my monitor on another late and only somewhat-rewarding night. your message has travelled across the gulf of 27 router hops and 10,000 miles of high-grade fiber optic cable and i do appreciate the effort.

sing your lyrics into the microphone here and make my life a little more interesting:
http://thesimsonstage.ea.com/index.html

I am very sorry to say this Chazen, but just stop moaning would you. If you want to talk to someone, go ahead and talk, send them a PM, or a message on their board, but not expect to be able to sit there, make twnety posts, and the world to want to rush to know you. And moaning isn't going to get you anywhere in life, bitching because you're song lyrics haven't gotten enough attention isn't going to help you make friends, and making posts like this is just making people think you are seeking attention.

Cut it out, 'cos it is annoying. And as for people "dissing" you about your age, mate your only a year younger than me and I have never had a problem with people talking about my age, so it is nothing to do with that. Maybe it is to do with the fact I act maturely, rather than lounging around, moaning about things.

Sorry if this is a little harsh, but it had to be said.

jesus.

first: I am not saying the people on this site are illiterate (plainly they're not, as tey continue to respond), nor am I saying they're stupid. the majority of people ONLINE are stupid imbeciles who look at porn and adds all day. I don't think I even MENTIONED the people on this site.

seconds: I'm not asking for criticism. criticism: "this is terrible, it doesn't rhyme, it feels forced, I can't imagine the music that goes with it, it's cliche." If that's all you have here then you must just all be sadists\masochists. I am asking for reviews, which I had thought would be more like, "this line is terrible, but you might could salvage it if you did such-and-such. It doesn't rhyme, but try looking in a thesaurus for a word that does fit. (or even) it doesn't rhyme, but that kind of fits witht the theme." you see?

third.
pull up your slacks and get on with it. it is cowardly to hang out in dark places all the time.
writing is how I get on with it. and if it's cowardly to hide in dark places all the time, get out of my face and go bake in the sun.

fourth: I plainly should have never posted this. For some reason I thought like-minded people might be here, but I was obviously wrong. I'm not going to make any friends here, am I? I shouldn't have broken your rose-tinted glasses. I apologize. But I still stand by everything I've said, though I beg you to move me.

fifth: I am not lounging around moaning. I'm trying my hardest, all by myself, and I had hoped to get a little support here. Didn't get any, did I? Heather Louise: who exactly am I supposed to PM? Apparently all I can do is bitch and whine, and apparently no one wants to hear that. I would have gotten the same response as I got doing this. about the age thing, maybe people don't dis you about your age. have you heard the song that goes, "I'm too young to be taken seriously \ but I'm too old to believe all this hypocrisy"?

Nope, never heard the song. And how about instead o making the first impression of yourself a moaning one, send a PM to someone, anyone, including myself, saying Hello, I am ____, I'm 14, how are you? something daft like that, the majority of people on here would welcome someone else to talk to.

As I think someone began by telling you:

Patience.

If this were a site that encouraged anemic, "This is wonderful!" responses, yeah, you'd already be up to your ears in them. We don't encourage that kind of responses, even though we do get them.

But that isn't the kind of respoinse you want - you and the rest of the tens of people who pass through the site each day. Those responses, the good ones, take time and thought.

The best way to get them is not this. The best way is to make yourself visible, but by showing an interest in other people's work. The reviews you give tend to be similar to the reviews you get, in depth if not in appreciation.

Writing is no placce for a fragile ego. You'll wait for far longer for responses from publishers, and get far less feedback.

So here it is one more time.

Patience.

ok, here it is.

I have no future on this site because I seem to have made the majority of people mad at me for exposing my darker side. It didn't occur to me that I would offend people or whatever by venting a little. I am not a patient person anyway, I'm depressed, I got mad and posted when I shouldn't've. I made a mistake; is that what you want me to say? It's true. I was furious at the world in general and channeled my anger towards the people on this site, and for that I'm sorry. I'm also sorry for even registering: I shouldn't make anyone but myself suffer from my bipolarism. I'm sorry, for the last time.

As I said, no future for me here. I'll log out, find some other forum and try to keep control of myself. I might come back here to check up every now and then, but I'll refrain from dropping any review where they are so obviously unwelcome.

So, goodbye, good luck to you all. Later.

-Chazen

We all have bad days. The challenge is to look at them tomorrow without flinching.

you didn't sing me your song. :(

We're not angry.

People take themselves way too seriously...

People take themselves way too seriously...

People take the internet too seriously.

Uh oh, someone in Idaho doesn't like the way I dress. Brb gonna go cry in the corner.

People need to just relax on the internet

People take the internet too seriously.

That too.

Don't worry; you are not alone. We all feel depressed, about writing and everything else that ever matters to us, and we all feel like we have more trouble than others on getting responses, feedback, everything.

I am also that way. I am also the kind of person who lingers in the corner and is afraid to say anything for fear of what people might think. Maybe that is because at a very young age I was always made fun of for expressing myself and being different. But you must understand that if you want to make friends, you have to reach out to other people. I've found that works way better than hoping someone will reach out to you.

And it's the people that have been online a very long time and posted many interesting topics that get all the attention. And that's reasonable. You can understand why.

I would love to be your friend...and read and comment on your song lyrics. Send me a PM. ;)

My God. I don't believe this. I am so sorry, people.

My last act on this site was to post my introduction. It was late, and I had just found the site and wanted to do that before I went to bed. Well, the next morning I found out I was leaving for a while, but I hated to just join and then disappear, so I gave my sister my password and asked her to post some of my lyrics for me. I just got back today. I can't believe what she did.

I am so, so, so sorry. I cannot say it enough. This will never happen again, I swear. She even changed my signature, and I don't remember what is what before. Agh... I changed my password and I'm not telling it to her again. I could strangle her. I'm sorry, again, I hope you can forgive me for being so stupid, disregard everything she's posted under my name (which is everything but my introduction and the actual lyrics, and the novel she posted.)

Ahhh...that's all I can say, really. Except I am SO sorry, again. Feel free to suggest different ways I could kill my sister...she knoweth not what trouble she is in...

Oh and Rink85 - thanks for trying, but your post is the exact sort of thing my sister would mock me for. that's basically all she was doing, by the way, was mocking everything I've ever done or said. She was saying, more or less, things I've said to her, expecting her to be my confidante...I don't know what's gotten in to her. But again, thanks.

Wow, that's pretty funny. So, hello, new Chazen.

And may I suggest you hang her from a tree by her toenails?

I'm glad you think it's funy...I feel like my entire future on this site may be compromised...hope you can all laugh it off.

and I like that idea...I'll have to start a notebook for them.

Good idea. And don't worry. We on WF.org are generally very forgiving.

heh, I hope so. I'm going around now responding to reviews, sorry it took so long, but the REAL me is here now...

Cool.

o_O

Um...hi, I think.

yeah...'hi' is probably the appropriate response. I will probably never live this down, huh?