Batman: The Dark Knight is nothing but pure genius. That's all there is to it. 5/5 Stars.

Best. Movie. This. Year.

Simply put: Best. Movie. This. Year.

Want me to repeat it?

Oh, all right. Best. Movie. This. Year.

It was great. Ledger's performance astounded me and the whole plot-how it progressed-kept me wanting more. I kind of hated it when it ended; i wanted more.

It was a very good film, I must admit. It was a little hurt by all the little kids in the theatre, and I would have made it a 15 just to keep them out, but definitely one of the best films of the year.

I was very impressed with it. I think most of the hype, however, is purely because of Heath Ledgers death. However, his performance was pure genius and I think that there would be no possible way to imitate that in a sequel.

Personally, I believe Christian Bale makes a wonderful Bruce Wayne, but he's only an 'Okay' Batman. He does wonderful when he screams and yells. Definitely a Batman. However, when he slows down, or just talks as Batman, he has a slight lisp, and whispers too much in his 'Dark Voice' and it doesn't fit him.

As a Bruce Wayne, he's my favorite. No better out there. Batman, he could work on it a bit.

I'm trying to figure out who is going to be the villain in the next one.

I've seen the movie three times so far, three times all before the fourth day marker.

I've tried to see it twice but both times it was sold out. I liked batman begins.

Yeah, I especially despise his Batman voice. But I got used to it. It's actually, after I thought about it, no big deal. It's more unique than other Batmans, and at least it covers his REAL voice.

I reckon the next villain will be the Penguin, probably...

I would want the Riddler. But I suppose that's too similar to Joker...

yeah it was awesome, i like how each character embodied a different philosophy. that bat voice did get on my nerves a little though. there were a couple of scenes where i couldn't understand what he was saying.

EDIT- the next batvillians should be Catwoman and Poison Ivy

Riddler AND the Penguin!

No, no, overstuffing the movie with more villains is NOT a good idea. A good example of one movie is... Spiderman 3!

I like it when it's one on one. Villains get more background info.

EDIT- the next batvillians should be Catwoman and Poison Ivy
I don't really like either of those, but Catwoman seems imminent.

To be honest, I want Ragdoll, which means I also need (but don't want) Catwoman. Black Mask would be good, too. And of course, if we're talking bigger villain names: The Riddler.

It's unfortunate Arnie ruined Mr. Freeze.

The Riddler gets my vote. And with the way Ledger redid the Joker, I think they would be able to have sufficient differences. (For some reason, I'd really like to see Jim Carrey retake that role and do it in a dark, comedic way.)
Actually, I didn't think the guy playing Harvey Dent would be able to pull off Two-Face, but I was pleasantly (erk! Maybe gruesomely?) surprised when he did.
My favorite Batman/Bruce Wayne has always been the original one, but this is a close second.

Definitely best movie of the year up to this point. Ledger was great. Bale is the best Bruce Wayne, but just an okay Batman. Aaron Eckhart I really liked as Harvey Dent, but felt he lacked a little as Two-face, also he should've worn a white suit, so part of it got burned. That way we get the Two-face look.

I don't think Two-face is dead. Batman survives the fall, but the bad guy doesn't; a little weak. The opening to the film was fantastic, which also added to the "weak" ending.

I don't really like either of those, but Catwoman seems imminent.

To be honest, I want Ragdoll, which means I also need (but don't want) Catwoman. Black Mask would be good, too. And of course, if we're talking bigger villain names: The Riddler.

It's unfortunate Arnie ruined Mr. Freeze.

Poison Ivy- is one of the greatest batman villains ever. As if her beliefs in saving the environment and devoting her life to plants and the ecosystem didn't alienate her from people enough, she's involved in a laboratory accident and all of a sudden she's poisonous to others, draws energy from the sun, plus she's a scientific genius. Her slight antisocialism spirals into total disassociation, she denies her humanity and assumes the role of mother nature herself. the only one who can speak-for/defend the earth from human kind and their selfish, shortsighted crimes against nature. Forget the horrible uma thurman portrayal and boldly re-imagine her as the villain she was meant to be. there's a lot to work with there if you think about it. maybe angellina could play her since she's out to save the world.

Catwoman- how can you not like catwoman? she's basically a cross between two-face and batman. A good selfless woman, stepped on all her life no matter how hard she tries, until she survives an attempted murder and her personality snaps in 2. i think michelle pfeiffer (sp?) did a good job...however, halle berry did not. i love the relationship her and batman have, if she's done right it should be a great movie.

MR. Freeze- yeah arnold was horrible, but he didn't ruin the character, he just ruined his career. victor freeze is still a badass. it will be interesting to see how they pull him off in this new reincarnation of the franchise.

Wow, I think you just summed it up for me. I don't like Poison Ivy because I dislike Uma Thurman! And I didn't know any of the character background, so yeah I could see that character.

Catwoman just comes across as a lame character.

Same deal with Freeze. I don't know what I'm talking about, I've never been a real Batman fan. I just don't like the other heroes.

yeah, i'm very passionate about my batvillians. I think, and i know everyone's going to disagree, that george clooney was the best batman, even better than keaton. I'm judging his performance alone, not the entire movie.

I saw the movie last night, and it was stunning. ^_^

I saw it at the IMAX. So. Freaking. Amazing.

During that first bank robbery scene, I was totally regretting seeing it at the IMAX- loud noises!- but then I got used to it, and it was all awesomeness from there.
The same could be said about Harvey's Two-Face face. At first I couldn't look at it, but then I got used to it. Still, I'm glad they killed him off- I don't think they could do another movie with him without retreading The Dark Knight.

I wish there was a much more original way to say that Heath Ledger WAS the Joker in every way imaginable. But there isn't. So. I'll just say Heath Ledger needs an Oscar, and beyond that I can not find the words to express how wonderful he was. The greatest thing about him was how you could laugh yourself silly and then feel really really weird about it- epitomized in the Nurse Joker scene, in which I had the most severe case of the giggles, while being disgusted with myself at the same time.

I thought Maggie Gyllenhall was much better than the old Rachel, but I still thought it disappointing that she played essentially the same character as the one she played in Stranger Than Fiction. Maybe she does that in all movies. I dunno.

Crowning moments of awesome:

Operation Skyhook
Nurse Joker blowing up the hospital
Flipping the bus- and then the batpod
The party scene, specifically the ones with Rachel in danger.
"Billionaire absconds with entire Russian ballet team"
All Alfred dialogue in general.

I loved the music- the action theme was great and could have been used more, but the lack of use meant you just liked it even more; the Joker's theme is especially cool because it's nine minutes consisting entirely of two notes, and it's still totally awesome.

I was surprised at the movie's length, but was even more surprised at how I never got bored. I kept expecting it to be done- 'oh, they caught the Joker, time to- oh, wait, here's this hospital thing, but when this is done we'll- oh, no, now there's the ferry plot and- oh, now we have Two Face, and- phew!' But even when it went through huge setup after setup, I loved every minute of it (despite my bladder's complaints).

So. Yeah. Great movie. Whoo.

Two-Face was killed. He went down backwards, the Dark Knight went down at a slower rate, and had 'blockage' to slow him down.

I think what will most likely happen is they won't play any of the villains from the Batman that had George Clooney in it. Nolen said "remakes" in one of his talks. They've brought the real beginning of what happened with Bruce to life, and redone the first Batman in a new and interesting way. They will probably use a different angle for Cobblepot (The Penguin) since the Cobblepot family and Alfred's family sort of passed a few times in the past. Much like every Batman movie so far, it will probably contain two or more villains. The Dark Knight had four major villains: The Falcone Family, Scarecrow, Two-Face, and the Joker. They all intertwined into one story, and made it flow so well that in the eyes of the viewer, we saw only the Joker, running the show, which was ultimately what happened.

They could easily through the Penguin in there, having something to do with Alfred, since their families had once known each other or something, and have him doing his bank jobs, and maybe show us how smart Batman by having him solve crimes that were done by some of his smart foes, such as The Riddler or The Mad Hatter.

Other names they could redo or give justice to are Bane (The Man That Broke The Bat), Clayface, Catwomen, Killer Croc, Killer Moth, Man-Bat, Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy (I hope not), Hugo Strange, Ventriloquist and Scarface.

Scarecrow had like a five second cameo, lol.

Post some of your favorite quotes from The Dark Knight!

Here's a good one from The Joker:
Let's turn the clocks back. A year ago, these cops and lawyers wouldn't dare cross any of you. I mean, what happened? Did your-- did your balls drop off? Hmm?

And the last line:
Because he's not a hero...he's a silent protector, a watchful guardian...a Dark Knight.

I just got back from the movie and I have to ask. Since when was batman so cool? The Joker was awsome, and the story, who came up with the story? I never would have thought a superhero movie would put that much moral drama into the story and be able to pull it off so flawlessly. And they didn't even need a giant microwave that defies the laws of physics! (Just so you know, I hated that microwave in batman begins.)

Folks, please keep in mind that not everyone has seen the movie yet, so

Watch The Spoilers!

Folks, please keep in mind that not everyone has seen the movie yet, so

Watch The Spoilers!

Shame on them!

Penguin has been ruled out, the director said so in an interview a while ago (if i can find a link i will, dont have the ime though.

Catwomen - errr, after the recent catwomen movie, i hope not.

I was very impressed with it. I think most of the hype, however, is purely because of Heath Ledgers death. However, his performance was pure genius and I think that there would be no possible way to imitate that in a sequel.

Personally, I believe Christian Bale makes a wonderful Bruce Wayne, but he's only an 'Okay' Batman. He does wonderful when he screams and yells. Definitely a Batman. However, when he slows down, or just talks as Batman, he has a slight lisp, and whispers too much in his 'Dark Voice' and it doesn't fit him.

As a Bruce Wayne, he's my favorite. No better out there. Batman, he could work on it a bit.

I'm trying to figure out who is going to be the villain in the next one.

I've seen the movie three times so far, three times all before the fourth day marker.

Lol just my opinion but the villians should be the Penguin, Harley Quinn, and Dr. Strange.

Personally here is who should play them in my opinion

Penguin- Jack Black, just think about it, he can be serious and he truly is a perfect fit.

Harley Quinn- Zoey Deschannel, she has that sorrow about her, and her acting is always done top notch and in a sadistic upbeat manner, and that's what harley is all about.

Hugo Strange- Phillip Seymore Hoffman, just cause the man is a great actor and I think that the way he acts he would truly nail the twisted mind of Hugo Strange

So what do ya think?

Harley Quinn won't work. They can't use her without using the Joker- and after the Heath Ledger business (and having seen the film, his performance was absolutely phenomenal) they won't want anyone else playing the Joker for a bit.

I highly doubt they will reprise Heath's performance with anyone else's at all.

As for spoilers, this whole thread is a spoiler for anyone that hasn't heard of Batman :rolleyes: lol

Hugo Strange would be cool, and I think seeing a newer vamped up Riddler, and The Hush would be cool. The Penguin if you look at some of the other forms of what he has done was never a bad guy that went out and did things and then bragged right in Batman's face, like the Joker. He did stuff behind the scenes for the most part. I think they could easily make him a sub-character for the next one, sort of running the whole thing. Maybe throw in more of the Falcone or Maroni family, and Rupert Thorn, and have them work with the Penguin, since in a few comics, he ran clubs that all the mobs hung out at.

I think what is needed though is brains. They need to show how smart Batman was, because in all honesty, that was his greatest weapon. He had the ability to figure out what was going on much faster than anyone else could.

In Batman Begins, they showed us what it was like before hand.
In The Dark Knight, we got to see the different aspects of being the Batman. We saw a much more physical side of him. If he wasn't beating someone up, he was jumping from buildings.

We need to see how he was able to figure things out.

Hell, maybe even introduce Batgirl or Robin :p

Here you go:

The Dark Knight 2 (Batman Begins 3) - Sequel Plans (http://www.movie-moron.com/?p=584)







So what do we call the Dark Knight sequel?… The Dark Knight 2? Batman Begins 3? Batman 3? Batman 7? If you count Adam West’s movie it’s Batman 8 and Tim Burton’s Batman was a remake.http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x89/edwardbayntun/news/Riddler-Batman-3.jpg
Minor spoilers ahead…
Will the Joker disappear from the next movie or be recast? When Gary Oldman was asked recently, he made an interesting point, “They recast Katie Holmes’ character. I understand that this is a different circumstance, but I think another actor could do the job. I think Heath would want another actor to do the job.”
But Gary went on… “Maybe we don’t need the Joker. Because we’ll have The Riddler.”
…Personally, I’d like to see a new take on the Penguin too. But the writers have hinted they will avoid Penguin and Catwoman in favour of some of the many other villains from Batman’s 69 year history. After all Scarecrow and Ra’s Al Ghul hadn’t been seen on the big screen until Batman Begins.
Don’t expect to see Robin either. Christian Bale is not keen on the idea at all. On the press tour he remarked, “If Robin crops up in one of the new Batman films, I’ll be chaining myself up somewhere and refusing to go to work.”
Oh and that’s right, Bale said “new Batman films”. Plural. Sounds like he’s planning on staying around for a while…
Which villains would you like to see in Batman Begins 3? The Riddler? Penguin? Catwoman? Maybe Bane? Harley Quinn? Mr. Freeze? Poison Ivy? Ventriloquist?

Sources: MovieWeb (http://www.movieweb.com/news/18/29618.php),
Starpulse (http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2008/07/02/batman_bale_says_no_to_robin_)

I agree with Oasis Writer- I would love to see a much more detective-story type Batman movie. That's really what the comics are supposed to be.
In fact, you know what would be totally cool? If they adapted the Hush story arc for the third movie.
But then, that wouldn't really work, since that requires Poison Ivy, Catwoman, Superman, Clayface, R'as ah Ghul, Robin, Nightwing, etc....

i doubt there will ever be another joker. heath ledger's job, will put everyone of his successors to shame. and the riddler would be easier to play i guess. the riddler isn't as serious as the joker. but i hope its not the next movie. after a joker, we don't need a riddler. it's a shame they won't have penguin. he was cool. what i want to see, is Penguin, Bane, Man-bat, Firefly/Phosphorous. Robin would be a welcome thought. and the detective storyline is good also. superman.... please dont put him in. superman is too... invincible and hte only thing that can destroy him, is something from a planet that doesn't even exist. some guy with x-ray vision and he can fly around, super strength. partners up with someone that makes his tools. doesn't work out. and the uniforms. dark. and colorful. doesn't work again. But Mr. Freeze would have to be a lot of CGI, same with Man-Bat.

I think it's possible to Mr. Freeze and Man-bat with little CGI. I actually prefer movies to use as little CGI as possible.

Really, I think using the Scarecrow and Bane with Cobblepot pulling all the strings could be cool, because then you have plenty of action and a chance to build a detective story.

Maybe model some of these into human?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/04/MrFreeze.gif

http://www.retrojunk.com/img/art-images/b0th.jpg

Another article that raised a lot of good points.



The Villains of Batman 3


IGN wonders who might terrorize Gotham City in the next movie.


by Jim Vejvoda (http://movies.ign.com/email.html)

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July 22, 2008 - With The Dark Knight now in theaters, IGN Movies is already looking ahead to a third Christopher Nolan-directed Batman movie and pondering what it might be about. Just as the ending of Batman Begins introduced the theme of escalation that its sequel explored, The Dark Knight established that things were going to get much worse for Batman and for Gotham City before they will get better. (PLEASE BE ADVISED OF SPOILERS FROM HERE ON OUT.)

TDK ends with Batman a wanted man, falsely accused of murdering five people including police officers. Batman sacrificed his own reputation in order to protect the memory of fallen district attorney Harvey Dent, who had transformed into the vengeful Two-Face. Gotham needed a hero, a figure of hope to believe in so that it could remain inspired to save itself from crime and corruption. In the end, Batman finds himself alone, hunted by his former police allies, and mourning the loss of his beloved Rachel Dawes.

A third Batman film would likely focus on the redemption of the Caped Crusader in the eyes of the public. What better or more obvious way for that to happen than for Batman to save the city (once again) from a villain bent on its destruction. The trick is to select villains that can be adapted to a real world environment AND fit in thematically with the storyline and stakes established in the first two films. That's a rather tall order and would seem to narrow down the list of potential villains quite a bit.

Why not just recast the Joker and bring back Two-Face, you ask? With Heath Ledger dead and his portrayal of the Joker now indelibly etched into filmgoers' minds, we think it highly unlikely that the filmmakers would recast the role to bring the Clown Prince back. It would also be tough for that character to top what he did to Batman and Gotham in TDK so perhaps once is enough. Likewise, the ending of TDK seemed to suggest that Harvey Dent/Two-Face was dead, although producer Emma Thomas told IGN after an early press screening that Dent's last scene was ambiguous enough to suggest that perhaps he was still alive.





If Dent is still alive, did Gordon have him covertly locked away in Arkham? Given TDK's overt political overtones, the idea of a secret prisoner hidden from the world would be in line with the ethical questions raised in the second film. Having Dent escape and show the city what he'd really become would at least get Batman off the hook for the murders that he didn't commit, but we don't see the filmmakers bringing Dent back either. Story-wise, what more could be done with Joker or Two-Face that TDK didn't accomplish? We suggest the filmmakers bring in new villains for the third movie, but that doesn't mean they can't be tied to the events of the first two films.
Employing a villain such as Talia al Ghul, the estranged daughter of Batman Begins' Ra's al Ghul, would not only tie Batman 3 back to the first film but also give the series a new female lead (and potential love interest) now that Rachel Dawes has been killed off. Talia could be out to finish the job her father had failed to do: destroy Gotham, which after TDK seems more hopeless than ever. Ra's may have had a Lazarus pit in the comics, but we don't see Nolan resorting to such comic book gimmickry to bring him back. Talia and a new League of Shadows would be enough. Talia would have the resources and will to bring about Gotham's destruction, the prevention of which might just put the Dark Knight back in the good graces of his hometown. (One problem with Talia, however, is that Warner Bros. might not want Nolan to use the character if they make a JLA (http://movies.ign.com/objects/887/887771.html) movie and she's a villain in that.)

Perhaps the filmmakers could use a "No Man's Land"-esque storyline that finds Gotham City sealed off from the rest of the county, the victim of some terrible calamity such as a biochemical attack or a viral outbreak. In keeping with the series' war on terror metaphors, as well as the abandonment of Gotham City in "No Man's Land," a private corporation could be brought in to save and secure the city and those who have stayed behind. This outfit, obviously, would be a front for the villains who were behind the attack (Talia and the League). Batman would have to expose and defeat them, thus restoring himself as Gotham's savior. Even playboy Bruce Wayne could be redeemed in the public eye thanks to his philanthropic efforts in aiding his forsaken city.


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Talia al Ghul and the Riddler.

What of the more colorful (and better known) members of Batman's rogue's gallery? Is there room for them in a third Nolan Bat-flick? The answer might be found in TDK.As the Joker told Batman, "You've changed things forever. There's no going back." A third film would likely show how this has panned out, with the underworld being divvied up between increasingly eccentric criminals, such as The Penguin (who is perhaps never referred to by that name), Black Mask and maybe even the Ventriloquist. None of them have to be the main villain; they could merely be there to show how wild and bizarre things are getting in Gotham. Some characters, no matter how popular they are, just might not fit into the world that Nolan has created or operate on a grand enough scale for the stakes that have been established in the first two films (nothing less than the salvation of Gotham City and Bruce Wayne's efforts not to abandon his own moral code in pursuit of that goal). Catwoman might be cool but how exactly does she fit into Nolan's take on the Batman universe? How do you explain a woman dressing up as a cat? It took a whole movie just to justify why Batman wore his outfit. The real world tone necessitates a supervillain who could conceivably exist. That's why we think the next major villain Batman will fight on-screen will be King Tut. Just kidding. No, our hunch is that the Riddler will be the secondary (yet better known) supervillain in the next film.

Given the ending of TDK, the most obvious antagonist for Batman to face in a third film would be Jim Gordon and the GCPD. With Batman now a wanted murderer (a cop killer to boot), it would make sense for the public and politicians to demand the GCPD bring in Batman once and for all. But seeing as how Batman has made short work of the cops in the past, they would need help catching him. The Mayor (or perhaps Boss Rupert Thorne) could demand that they bring in a hired gun to help get the job done. Enter the Riddler, who is currently portrayed in the comics as a good bad guy who helps the cops crack cases. He possesses a superior intellect and proves it by solving mysteries.

The trick with the Riddler is not portraying him as a Joker wannabe or a garish buffoon. By making him Batman's intellectual equivalent and a possible replacement hero for the city, he becomes more of a threat to Batman. What if Edward Nygma is brought in to find out who Batman really is and help the cops get him, but he secretly has his own nefarious agenda? Primary villain Talia al Ghul doesn't have to know that Bruce was Ra's pupil or is Batman, so her seeking Riddler's help would make that much more sense then. Whomever that next villain is their job will be to test Batman. Ra's al Ghul did so by seeing if Batman's compassion was also his weakness; the Joker pushed Batman to the brink of breaking his one rule (no killing) and almost revealing his true identity. Seeing as how the Riddler has always posed questions to Batman, he seems like the right villain to continue Nolan's tradition of testing Batman's ethical boundaries.

Yeah was brilliant :p Some people say "oh it wouldnt be so popular if Heath Ledger hadn't died", but to be honest it was always going to be the biggest film of the year, and even after they had just finished filming, before he died, there was still talk of Ledger's brilliant joker.

I dont think its as good overall as Batman Begins - not that there is anything wrong with it, but i just dont think its really possible to top Batman Begins with another Batman story because the start of it was so good.

I dont know who they could use for a villain in another one because i dont know the comics of it, though i doubt it would be the Riddler since he is pretty similar in idea to the Joker. Personally i dont see why they couldnt just invent a villain that hasnt been seen in Batman before, because generally in all these new superhero films its the stuff that they have to force in because it was in the comics that make them worse. Dont know if anyone else would be offended by actually just making a new villain though :eek:

And if they continue this series of Batman, they cannot make a Robin - even if they did try to do something about the suit, there is simply no way that someone with the name "Robin" can be made cool :confused:

And if they continue this series of Batman, they cannot make a Robin - even if they did try to do something about the suit, there is simply no way that someone with the name "Robin" can be made cool

LOL

anyways. they did a good job with the Joker's makeup but i thought the joker wouldn't be as serious as heath ledger portrayed him.
For mr. freeze they would have to paint him blue and give him red contact lenses. and give him a suit. but the ice would have to be CGIed.
Man-bat... it would probably be like the movie "The Incredible Hulk"
a human portrays the human and then he goes into transformation and then the rest is all CGied.

Really, I think using the Scarecrow and Bane with Cobblepot pulling all the strings could be cool, because then you have plenty of action and a chance to build a detective story.
I used to watch the Saturday morning Batman cartoon
and one of them the Penguin created a superteam of villains: Killer Croc, Scarecrow, Moth, and Firefly. Penguin didn't do anything except pull the strings.

I'd like to see a combo of Talia and Man-Bat. Also maybe Killer Croc as a subplot.

Just saw Dark Knight on Tuesday.

(Yeah, I know it was late, but I wanted to see it with friends)

It was awesome! Probably one of my favorite movies of all time. Heath Ledger was phenomenal. He should win the Oscar; although its a shame he died so young...

I can't think of which Batman villian they can bring out that will top Ledger's Joker.

The problem is that most of the batman villans aren't in keeping with the real-world feel of the current movies. I personally think that Bane would be great. There doesn't seem to be much else you could do to raise the stakes from this movie.

I saw the Dark Knight yesterday (waited for it to cool off a bit) and yes, surprisingly I'm going to say it was awesome. I was very sceptical of going in and coming out loving Heath Ledger's performance just because he died, but I honestly do think that it was an incredable performace. The way he was funny and scary at the same time.

The only real gripe I had with it was that there was so much stuff happening with so many storylines that I feel like Batman got pushed into the sidelines a bit. It would be quite easy to watch the film and forget that Christian Bale was even in it. Sorry if someones said this already.

Other than that amazing. I wont list all the good bits because it would take too long, but I will definitley be seeing this again at the cinema, and buying it on dvd. Incredable film.

The next Villian is King Tutt. They want to stay away from the Penguin and Riddler because Nolen doesn't feel they fit the profile for the image and ongoing corruption story arch.

The next Villian is King Tutt. They want to stay away from the Penguin and Riddler because Nolen doesn't feel they fit the profile for the image and ongoing corruption story arch.

Whoa, hey, cool, I'd prefer that infinitely to the Penguin or Riddler. Can we get a source, though? I'm always skeptical with movie news.

I don't like the premise behind King Tutt. I hope this isn't real.

Alright, now I know it's pretty obvious they won't recast the joker, but honestly they should. It's not a disgrace to Ledger, it's more of a testament to what he became.

The story would be cool if it was....(SPOILERS AHEAD)

Tell me what you think please, I personally think this story would be a very good one to adapt to reallife.

The Joker, at the end of the movie appeared to be caught, so we can safely assume that he is now a resident of Arkam asylum, along with Scarecrow. So who would be a perfect 3rd villain for the next Batman... Well Harley Quinn of coarse cause then she could break the Joker, Scarecrow and maybe even one other new villian and thus starts the new plot. With so many 'famous' villians out bringing Gotham back down to the disgusting city it once was, the people of gotham would have no choice but to forgive Batman.

Coming into the start of the movie, You would see Batman running, jumping, and zipping through the streets, alleys, and rooftops dodging the massive police force chasing after him.

With Batman occupied by the Police chase, this would give Harley Quinn the oppurtunity to rescue her beloved Joker with minimal problems. However since the Jokers recent stay at Arkam, he has made some friends, and thus some nefarious plans. So despite Harley's begging him not to, she finally gives in and thus releases Scarecrow, and one other villain.

After this 10-15 minute opening scene, we go back to Bruce Wayne who has just made it back safely to Wayne Manor. Met immediately by Alfred. Bruce is beaten and tired, Alfred can see this, just cues a conversation that eventually leads to Bruce finally throwing away the Batman costume for good.

This will then cut to a scene with the scarecrow creeping back to the mob, and is oddly welcomed back with open arms. They throw a party for a short bit, but this is just a cover-up and a wait for the true mob-boss to come in, and thus enters a massive beating of the Scarecrow, who marconi believes double crossed him and that was why he was questioned in court so much. The beating occurs mostly to his head. But the damage is plainly clear around his lips, which they tore off. They leave him bloodied, and to die.

However the Joker's spy (Harley Quinn) had informed the Joker of scarecrows deeds, and he was none to happy, however he got there just in time to save the foolish villian. After a few quick, surgerys (lightly meaning the Joker just adding some makeup and what not to scarecrow) he goes over to a table, laughing he picks up a mask and says "Ya know, I was going to give this to Harvey Dent, but seeing as how he's dead and your face looks about as bad as his, why don't you take it, it's an improvement TRUST ME." and with that the joker throws the scarecrow the mask. He puts it on, and thus enters scarecrows new identity Black Mask.

So now the Joker obviously in a very angry and annoyed mood, starts his plans for gothams destruction once more. He does it this time by going directly to the source... (i don't remember that guy who found out batman was bruce wayne, but I'm pretty sure he didn't die.) So the joker finds him in a jail cell, refusing to give up batmans identity already to the police. The joker busts him out, takes him to the top of a tall building, threatening him to throw him off if he does not tell him who batman is. After a few lunges he finally gives, and with the joker having the information he throws the man off the building.

The Black Mask heads back to the mob, this time with Harley Quinn beside him, they quickly take out Marconi and most of his loyal men, and thus Black Mask becomes the new leader of the mob.

With Black Mask and his twisted mind he quickly becomes the crime lord of gotham, striking fear into every citizen of gotham, even the most nefarious ones. Crime rate rises astronomically high, but despite all this Batman is no where to be seen...

Bruce Wayne hides in the sanctity of his manor, and job at Wayne Enterprises, but he never does leave the manor. However Alfred demands he leave, in fact threatens to quit if he does not go out and do something, anything. So of coarse Bruce agrees, he grabs his coat and heads out to the inner streets of Gotham, at night. With Bruces brief visit he sees that Harvey Dents heroicesq death did nothing, and the villians of Gotham are relentless.

He returns to Wayne Manor, but as he enters he sees the Joker... and then he sees Alfred painted in the jokers face-paint, and the Joker face-paintless. It is also painfully obvious Alfred has been killed, and now the Joker brings in one of his demonic laughs. "Bruce Wayne, the Bat-Man himself eh? the great "Dark Knight" of Gotham. I see you have thrown away your batsuit (the suit that the Joker dug up from the trash) tis a shame Brucey. I won't kill you, but make no mistake I want to see you again. Not in tuxedo, but preferably in a different kind of suit." With that the joker dissapears via a smokebomb.

This would take place within the first hour maybe hour and a half or so of the third batman and you would then see where the movie would be headed, Black Mask falls for Harley, Joker kills Black Mask, Harley gets angry double crosses the Joker, he gets caught... and Harley quits her evil deeds. She returns her hair color back to normal thus revealing... Rachel!!! (honestly think about it, it's possible the joker may not of killed her, maybe he converted her when he captured her)

Oh btw that third villian that escaped, his identity would be kept secret until the end and he would enter (a.k.a The Riddler, Hugo Strange, or Deacon Blackfire)

Personally I like that story lol.... what do you think.

Sorry but i think it would be a terrible idea to bring the Joker back... and not just because "Oh it would degrade Heath Ledger's memory." I dont usually like it when they change actors during a series, and especially in this case, it will simply be a case of "he wasn't as good as Heath Ledger" for most critics - and the chances are they will be right.

Also, the Joker already had his get out of jail free in the film, not to mention he stole the limelight from Batman and dominated the entire film. As good as he was, people dont want to see him again (even if they could get Ledger back). The main (and basically the only) criticism i have heard of the film is that it was too long and was simply the Joker unleashing different attacks on Gotham over and over again (one of which could probably have been ommitted, possibly the hospital / kill the lawyer bit). The last thing they need is to have another film full of the same old crazy antics ;\

And am i the only one sick of Scarecrow? I can hardly believe the amount of "Who will be the next Batman Villain" articles i've seen online that say Scarecrow should return... i mean, he was a lowly villain in Batman Begins, a pawn, a bit of filler to give Batman something to do before the real villain, Raz Al Ghul (who imo is the best villain of the series so far), was revealed. He made a brief appearance in The Dark Knight as a novelty, and to provide an opening action sequence for Batman to get involved in before he started taking on the Joker. He is not coming back :mad:

I have never read any comics, but from looking at new potential villains, i do think that if they really must go with another comic book villain, the Black Mask is a good candidate - if done in a much less comic-booky way. He has ties to the mob, so is realistic in the new setting, and all they have to do is have him wear, you guessed it, a Black Mask over his head and give himself a scary name, something which the audience may actually believe. Also, i read that in the comics he bears a grudge against Bruce Wayne rather than Batman, which could be an interesting angle if translated into the film.

But while i'd still prefer them to make up a new villain not from any comic book, i predict they will use 2 out of The Riddler, the Penguin, and Catwoman in the new film (most likely the Riddler or Penguin as the main villain and Catwoman as a side story), because these are the most famous Batman villains and will probably appeal to the general, movie-going public more than some weird thing known only to people who read issue #1789 of Batman. I mean, people who were obsessed with the comics will go see the movie regardless, but your average viewer probably isnt going to be interested in seeing some monster from, yet another, failed science experiment, or someone given superpowers from radiation, or some weird guy that thinks he is in Alice in Wonderland.

The Riddler could be done as others have said, as a genius who helps the police solve crimes. The ending of the Dark Knight sets it up so that the police will be hunting Batman, and this opens the door for a story involving the Riddler helping them to try and track him down (though perhaps he has a motive of his own). They could not portray him as a cackling Joker-wannabe.

The Penguin could easily be brought in as some mob boss with a twist, though the name is a bit stupid - dont know what else to add to this, will be up to the film makers to come up with a story for him if they use him.

Catwoman would most likely be used as a side story, as i dont think she could make a true villain.


Long Post :eek: I can only hope that they dont ruin this Batman series of movies by either becoming too comic-booky or continuing longer than they should :confused:

Well, I definitely don't think the Joker will return. There is no way anyone can compete with his performance.

Being a Batman fan since I was born, I know without a doubt that Heath Ledger came the closest to playing the Joker and was the best. Jack Nicoleson was okay, but he didn't want to go as far as Ledger did because he kinda new what it would do to him physically and mentally.

Anywho, a new villain should make an appearance in the movie, not one of the ones portrayed already because some of them aren't realistic enough for the new Batman movies.

Mr. Freeze is out. Not realistic enough. Same with Poison Ivy, Killer Croc, Man-Bat, Killer Moth, and maybe Clayface (the original Clayface had a deformed face). Scarecrow is a lowlife criminal and I'm kind of disgusted at how he was portrayed in TDK. Not too much depth left in his character.

Harley Quin is a good idea, but not a likely choice. The Joker was the one who pretty much created her and without a Joker I doubt Harley will make a scene, unless she is shown pre-Joker state as a psychiatrist.

Too bad Two-Face had to die. He was at the top of the food chain of villains in Batman.

Deadshot would be a worthy villain. He's realistic enough and is a perfect sniper. He would need to be very professional and look like a renowned gunman though so he wouldn't have to look like Bullseye from Daredevil. They could either use Deadshot or Deathstroke (aka Slade from Teen Titans) as an alternative.

The Riddler would be a good choice too, but not a funny Riddler like Jim Carrey. It would have to be a serious Riddler and someone with better riddles.

The penguin is also an okay choice. He doesn't have to look like a screwed up midget like Danny Devito in Batman Returns. He could honestly look like a real person but just look like a penguin (I had a math teacher that I thought would look like the penguin).

Catwoman I doubt they would use because of her own movie they released several years ago and was a flop in the box office. They could reboot her like they did the Hulk and make her convincing, but I doubt it.

Ra's Al Ghul's daughter Talia Al Ghul could make an appearance and avenge her father's death and stuff like that. That's always a possibility.

Black Mask is also a good choice since he holds a grudge against Bruce Wayne.

Bane, though I don't like the guy, could absolutely dominate Batman on an enhanced steroid or something. He doesn't have to look all juiced up like he did in Batman & Robin and how he does in the comics and cartoons. He could just be a very burly guy who's a drugy.

The Ventriloquist and Scarface? And also Mad Hatter is just to....weird.

Firefly is a possibility, so is Hush.

I really don't think Hush is a possibility, due to all the characters required to pull off the true badassness of the plot.

Scarecrow was the villian in Batman Begins, wasn't he? I loved how the director brought reality into the scarecrow, protraying him as a real life human villian and how he used the poisen upon his victims.

I think the next movie should have two villains - like in Batman Begins. One is working for the other and that one is a distraction for Batman, while the other one is doing something small, but he/she does it so small that no one notices. So like setting something up to take a dollar from each check that gets cashed in. It's small, but all these people are doing it. I think Firefly should be the distraction, he is like a mercenary after all. And he should work for Mr. Freeze. But like BrinkOfDawn said, not realistic enough. Mr. Freeze would be perfect, he has no motives, all he does is rob banks etc. Unless you count his wife. That's his only motive. They should just take advantage of the chaos and run a couple of scams etc. and they start stealing from Bruce Wayne's bank account. Whatever.

Hey, that guy who tried to blackmail batman's still alive right? They could do something fun with him.

Wouldn't it be cool if two villians started a crime war with each other and Batman got caught in the middle? What would a villian do if they saw a threat that was bigger than Batman?

I think the next movie should have two villains - like in Batman Begins. One is working for the other and that one is a distraction for Batman, while the other one is doing something small, but he/she does it so small that no one notices.

Isn't that what the Joker and Two-Face had running for a brief period in this movie?

yup, kinda but towards the end of the movie.

They weren't really collaborating or anything. The Joker just pointed Two-Face in the "right" direction.

The joker is set for a return but since ledger departed they will proberly leave it a movie or two before his return. King Tutt is one of the front running villians. Harvy two face is certainly set form a return but not as a focal villian for the Caped Crusader (Batman III)

How do I know all this. Well anyone who knows me knows I know all about the Batman. ;)

Nolan wants to focus his story arch on the other villians that pop up but not as much in the lime light. Or to even create a new villian. But its likely to be 2011 before you see the newer movie.

I thought you were batman, Raven?

I thought you were batman, Raven?

Now that would be telling. ;)

I LOVE BATMAN!
Seriously, the Joker is amazing.
6 out of 5 stars. ; )

Uh oh. I think that sixth star has a fuse...

A fuse that opens a vortex of amazing cinema!

Well, Hush can still work for a villain. Nolan doesn't need the other villains to make him work and he doesn't even have to use the story. He could just play with ideas of the character.

King Tutt is too corny, but that's just me :D

I don't read the comics, so the last time I saw King Tutt was in the Adam West show. Like BrinkofDawn said, he just seems too corny. Nolan will prove to me that he is a genius if he manages to pull this guy off and maintain the tone of the other two movies. And Oscar all the way for Heath!

You forget King Tutt was way back in the 60s and even Batman himself was corny with his many gadgets and his wondrous utility belt with bomb proof spray. LMAO!

In the modern world King Tutt could be done very sinisterly and very vile and evil. Nolen has also the opportunity to produce 5 Batman Films with a following story arch. The Joker will return but not in the third film. My guess that will be left for the fifth.

Just do not forget Batman way back in the 60s was very corny and today is very much how Bob Kane wanted to portray this Vengeful Knight.

I repeat, could we please get your source for saying King Tut (spelled with one 't', by the way) will be in the next movie?

To give my source would give my secrets and that I ain't doing. Those that know me Know I'm always correct with my info. Sometimes even spot on. But Ivan you should know me better. :p

Mark my word. ;) :p

What can I say? I'm a Scully.

kind of random, but i'd be cool to have a batman Rp, kind of hard to get it started, but it would still be fun.

A Batman RPG would cause some problems too, what with everyone wanting a certain role and all. Maybe a DC Universe RPG.....

Anywho, I still don't think King Tut makes for a good villain. It's not just the decaded he was in, it's his actual character and (to me) a rediculous name and I'd be surpirsed if Nolan actually threw him in there.

The Riddler is my best bet. I read something on Yahoo last night that if they did the Riddler that they'd think about casting Johnny Depp for the role.

I'd much rather see RPGs on the site in which the player creates and develops his or her own character through interacting with other characters and meeting challenges. This is, after all, still a writing site.

I doubt the Riddler. The Dark Knight had a Joker. We don't need a Riddler. I'm betting towards a "mutant". eg. Mr. Freeze, Man-bat etc.

Characters like those aren't realistic for the new Batman movies though. As you can tell the new Batman movies are different from the other super hero movies these days. No superpowered criminals.

The Riddler doesn't even compare to the Joker. Jim Carrey pretty much brought in the unnecessary funny to the character in Forever.

At the time Carrey played the Riddler, he did a pretty decent job of making him more dangerous than comedic. The overall slant of the franchise, on the other hand, was toward a lighter Batman. I don't blame Carrey, I actually thought it was one of his better roles.

But I can easily see the Riddler in the light of a modern serial killer, along the same lines as the Zodiac killer taunting police with clues as the people become increasingly terrified.

The Riddler doesn't even compare to the Joker. Jim Carrey pretty much brought in the unnecessary funny to the character in Forever.
Not at all Carey did a good job of a movie franchise aimed more at a family audience.
I'd much rather see RPGs on the site in which the player creates and develops his or her own character through interacting with other characters and meeting challenges. This is, after all, still a writing site.
I 100% fully agree. It also makes the game play much better.

At the time Carrey played the Riddler, he did a pretty decent job of making him more dangerous than comedic. The overall slant of the franchise, on the other hand, was toward a lighter Batman. I don't blame Carrey, I actually thought it was one of his better roles.

But I can easily see the Riddler in the light of a modern serial killer, along the same lines as the Zodiac killer taunting police with clues as the people become increasingly terrified.

I thought Carey did a brilliant job of the riddle he was playing him like a nut job psychotic. Which fits the Batman villains profile just nice. And like you say the Schumacher movies were aimed at a lighter audience trying to mimic the 60s Adam West series which modern CGI effects and a big budget.

Well, I take back the statement about the unnecessary funny. I did actually like his performance now that I think about it. I did like the way he said "riddle me this, riddle me that".

I just don't think the Riddler should be super-psychodic funny like Carrey played him. Just punchline funny.

And I agree with Cog about the Zodiac feel. I think the Riddler should be more like that.

It would certainly fit the profile of Nolens story arch.

The Riddler to me seems most appropriate for the next movies. Most of the other Batman villains just don't fit because of either the powers they have or they just aren't realistic enough to pull off. I'm pointing at Man-Bat, Killer Croc, Clayface, Poison Ivy and Mr. Freeze.

The new movies have criminals, not supervillians. It's that approach that makes the new Batman movies more interesting to me and I hope they stick with it. It shows Batman's obvious difference and greatness from the rest of the superhero movies these days.

Well King Tut has no super powers and I can see him fitting in just nicely. I also heard a rumour of catwoman returning. God I hope they only cast Jolie for the Catwoman 2 film. Christ shes a goody in looks and the usual but she hasn't the image for this story arch of dark villians.

I'm personally sick of Angelina Jolie being in action films. She's not appealing to me at all.

I never liked Catwoman and I could never like the character, so whoever plays her in Catwoman 2...well, good luck.

King Tut has a cheezy origin though. He's a professer who bumps his head and thinks he's actually King Tut. It's highly unlikely that could happen to anyone in my opinion and even if Nolan did want to use him would it really an interesting character to use and would it do the story justice?

I forgot who posted that article a while back (think it was Oasis) but the Riddler seems like the best choice. By the way TDK ended he'd probably be brought in to try and find Batman while the caped crusader tries to clear his name.

Just a quick question. I live in LA, and am planning on buying tickets as a gift for some friends and I to go and see this movie. I'm just wondering if it's really worth it to see it at the IMAX theater on a 90 feet wide screen. I've never been to an IMAX, so I have this vague image of people craning their heads just to watch an actor on screen walk to the other end of the room for a cup of water.

Any suggestion would be helpful.

SPOILER ALERT


One of the things, and there are a lot, that annoyed me about this movie most is the nature of the dialogue. Not the fact that it sucks or that it’s delivered badly, but that it never seems to break away from being expository. Instead of having realistic or even stylish, clever conversations/interactions, the characters simply stand around and state what is going on, who this person is, why this is happening, as if to say “you might THINK our plot is muddled and our themes non-existent, but HERE’S why it’s so deep and intellectual”. The dialogue is more of a running commentary on the “plots” development than a means to entertain through good ol’ fashion character development. Was Batman even in this movie, or was that a doll with a pull string that prompts it to spout out cheesy inspirational and/or “moody” phrases to let us know he means business? Phrases which seem to be the same idea repeated over and over again with slightly different wording. “Batman did this to himself”, “Sacrifice…something something”, “Being rich is hard…”, “Letting people die is way better than using their modified magic cellphones to save them from utter destruction… I’m Morgan Freeman” and so on.

Here’s an example of how Nolan chooses to tell us everything instead of showing us:

-First scene of the movie, Jokers men preparing to rob the bank. Instead of just letting the scene play out silently, allowing the mystery of the Jokers plan to (possibly) intrigue the audience enough to stop them from walking out, he decides to give these henchmen cheesy, unrealistic dialogue as they DISCUSS how mysterious and, basically, how badass the Joker is. Another option would have been to SHOW us how badass the Joker is by having him do something…I don’t know…badass. The pencil trick is pretty much the only thing I liked about this movie because it was physical, visual, and the only thing stopping this movie from being better suited for a radio play.

Basically, Nolan is too wrapped up in his own self-love, or perhaps admiring the endless beauty of Chicago, to realize that having the characters state complex or compelling ideas is not the same as actually exploring them through the film.

So sadly enough, the characters in Nolans film are basically the same as the deluded majority who tell us The Dark Knight is the second coming but, tragically, can’t show us why…

Just a quick question. I live in LA, and am planning on buying tickets as a gift for some friends and I to go and see this movie. I'm just wondering if it's really worth it to see it at the IMAX theater on a 90 feet wide screen. I've never been to an IMAX, so I have this vague image of people craning their heads just to watch an actor on screen walk to the other end of the room for a cup of water.

Any suggestion would be helpful.



TDK is worth it. Do it:D

No, don't.

Transformers was good on IMAX because of the overbundance of action.

While TDK is not, because it has none. Even the crap-stacular HellBoy and TIH had better action than the Dark Knight, which is unfortunate.

TDK is certainly worth seeing on the big screen and I recommend it fully.

Eyezforyou remember when giving parts of a movie away not everyone has seen it so do put a spoiler alert on the start of your post as you'll find I've done for you.





~Raven.
Senior Super Moderator.

Everyone will have their own opinions about a movie but I wouldn't judge it till I see it.

Still Life, I wish I would have seen TDK in IMAX midnight showing because I am a very big Batman fan. You aren't losing much to see it in IMAX and my advice to you, my own opinion, is to try it. Doesn't hurt to try.

Seconded. ;)

That is one big Spoiler Alert.

Lol

More on my opinion about TDK, I'm rarely completely blown away by a movie so much that I want to see it again and TDK is a movie that accomplished that.

The last time I was completely blown away was with Transformers and before that Revenge of the Sith. I honestly don't look at the details of a movie and critique it to the bone while watching it. A movie I'm extremely passionate about I'll only critique the story and hardly anything else. The story of TDK got to me more than anything and I didn't need to look at anything else really and that's what makes me love the movie so much. That's what makes me a fan of Batman.

I'll be heading off to IMAX then, though it's bit costly, lol.

Thanks for the suggestions, and for the spoiler EyezForYou. Don't worry about it, I like being spoiled. I can still cry at the end of a movie, even though I already know the ending. I guess the anticipation always gets to me. My friends want to see TDK, so no matter what I say, it's TDK. Judging from your words, I might actually like it - the cheesey dialogue. I read a lot of comics (DC included), so this may be why I'd appreciate the "tell" instead of the just "show". On the other hand, I might not. I didn't like Transformers (felt no connection with the characters), so I'll just have to see.

More on my opinion about TDK, I'm rarely completely blown away by a movie so much that I want to see it again and TDK is a movie that accomplished that.

The last time I was completely blown away was with Transformers and before that Revenge of the Sith. I honestly don't look at the details of a movie and critique it to the bone while watching it. A movie I'm extremely passionate about I'll only critique the story and hardly anything else. The story of TDK got to me more than anything and I didn't need to look at anything else really and that's what makes me love the movie so much. That's what makes me a fan of Batman.

Dude, you need to watch more movies.

Expand your horizon. Try independent films; foreign films. You haven't even seen Old Boy, have you?

I'll be heading off to IMAX then, though it's bit costly, lol.

Thanks for the suggestions, and for the spoiler EyezForYou. Don't worry about it, I like being spoiled. I can still cry at the end of a movie, even though I already know the ending. I guess the anticipation always gets to me. My friends want to see TDK, so no matter what I say, it's TDK. Judging from your words, I might actually like it - the cheesey dialogue. I read a lot of comics (DC included), so this may be why I'd appreciate the "tell" instead of the just "show". On the other hand, I might not. I didn't like Transformers (felt no connection with the characters), so I'll just have to see.

Cheesy is the wrong word.

More insipid, vapid, bombastic blathering.

lol, I may share your sentiments after seeing the film. I do watch a lot of independant and foreign films actually, Last Life in the Universe (pen ek ratanaruang) and Earth (Deepa Mehta) being my two most recent ones.

However, TDK is based on a comic. I always seem to approach films differently depending on their origins.

Dude, you need to watch more movies.

Expand your horizon. Try independent films; foreign films. You haven't even seen Old Boy, have you?

I actually watch a lot of movies, independent too like White Rainbow and some old foreign films like Baron, The Great Dictator, Rashomon, and The Hidden Fortress.

No I haven't seen Old Boy, but I've wanted to read the manga :D

Oh, please, please, PLEASE no on Angelina Jolie (or Jessica Biel/Alba/any other overrated "hot" actress) as Catwoman. PLEASE NO. That idiot can't be let anywhere near one of my favorite comic book characters, let alone my favorite female comic book character period.... JUST NONONO.

I'll protest... I will... I mean it!!

lol, okay I won't, but it will piss me off very, very much. :(

Personally I doubt Angelina Jolie will play Cat Woman in any of the Batman Films. But sadly she is to play Catwoman in the sequal to Halle Berry's. Comsidering Jolie has pushed for this Its a dead sert she'll done the black cat suit for a third outing also. But then I have faith in Jolie playing Catwoman in a spin off because she's not so bad. ;) But I doubt very much She'll be in any Batman Film.

hey i found a batman roleplay board, it looks promising, it appears that they are just starting out, so please join and help'em out :) I really would like to see this one work, the guy put a lot of work into it, you can tell.

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No links to other forums please, we're not a stopping gap between forums.

~Raven.
Senior Super Moderator.

awesome, I suppose.

Don't think a stand alone Batman RPG would work though.

Naa me neither. Justice League may work at a pinch.

Maybe a Marvel vs DC would work.

idk.....