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Gallowglass
06-13-2009, 08:39 AM
So, we've had a thread on how much you do, but how do you actually do it? And what for?
I typically do most of my research online. Sometimes I'll buy books, but I always check to see if I can get them from the library first. That's been enough to get me by so far. Sometimes I have to think somewhat out of the box to get the the right kind of info. For example, I'm writing from the perspective of an assassin atm, so I've been reading up on so-called 'suicide manuals'. Morbid, I know, but they provide exactly the kind of technical detail I need to write about my character realistically. They're basically just cause-of-death encyclopedias. Whatever gets the job done!
Banzai
06-13-2009, 02:10 PM
To be honest, my story ideas often come out of my research.
When I read/watch tv/end up getting lost on wikipedia, things often occur to me as good ideas for stories. I then read on a bit more, or think what else I'd need to know in order to write the story, then go and find it on the internet.
HeinleinFan
06-13-2009, 04:22 PM
I'm at a good location for talking to smart people, so I do a lot of research online, but I also talk to people and ask questions and borrow books from the nearby libraries. Sometimes I take notes, but mostly I just read and try to remember. It seems to have worked out thus far.
mammamaia
06-13-2009, 04:31 PM
how do you actually do it?
...almost exclusively online, nowadays...
And what for?
...for whatever i need to know about something i'm writing an essay on, or to get more detailed info than i have in my own 'hard-wired data bank'...
love2listen
06-13-2009, 07:43 PM
I've heard of writers jobshadowing people, if their characters work in that field and they want to know more. same with filmmakers.
if my character is say, a NASA specialist, I would google. a lot. a WHOLE lot
Cogito
06-13-2009, 08:03 PM
I mostly use the Internet, but I also have a pretty decent home library, too.
I haven't done so yet for my writing, but I have no problem with locating someone knowledgeable in a particular field and sitting down with them with questions - I've done it for coursework.
My research depends on the nature of the subject. Obviously, the internet provides lots of information (sometimes of dubious reliability) but some things require first hand observation. Have you ever been on a nighttime "ride along" with a police officer? You experience things like; sights (gang members glaring at you with hatred in their eyes), sounds (gargling breath of someone in a wrecked car with blood filling their throat), smells (urine soaked combatant under arrest in the seat right behind you), boredom (hours of patrol when nothing happens), adrenaline surges (these are especially noticeable when they occur at the end of a long period of boredom) . . . some things are best experienced before you write about them.
Cogito
06-14-2009, 09:52 PM
Absolutely. The Internet tends to give facts and visuals, but the experience of being there is missing, particularly tastes, smells, and tactile sensations.
jlauren
06-15-2009, 01:04 AM
The last piece I wrote was about a pilot, so I posted some technical 'industry' questions on Yahoo Answers. Surprisingly, I had a lot of help, mostly from other pilots. I began chatting with 2 in particular, one who was a retired pilot and another who was a flight instructor. They were both really helpful and basically became my human text books! It was great not only for the info, but also as a window into the day-to-day life of a pilot. I was able to incorporate their fears, insecurities, frustrations and joys into my character. Plus I got to pick the brains of 2 great people! Awesome experience.
Agreen
06-15-2009, 01:38 AM
At this point, most of what I need will be in my own collection of books as I tend to write on the subjects that interest me. If I don't have what I need, I have two main resources: First, the local library. Second, JSTOR. JSTOR if you have access to it is a tremendous source of articles and information. It made writing my University term papers very easy.
Obezyanka
06-15-2009, 02:33 AM
I like to study and when I think I have hit some inspiration I look at books in the library and of course the interwebs.
I was writing a fanfiction were the setting was in Liverpool UK. I searched for scenes etc through websites.
My story Midnight Thoughts is based on studying the last Russian Imperial family and mainly the daughter Grand Duchess Olga. I am not sure if those were her last thoughts as she was getting shot but the scenes and items were what that Grand Duchess had experienced.
When she got killed I read it was a different way instead of having two men hold her as she was shot in the back of the head. Another version was in the midst of the shoot everyone was pushing each other, Olga tripped over someone's shoes and a gun man shot her under her chin and the bullet exited the crown of her head.
Kirvee
06-18-2009, 02:16 AM
Internet. Books work too, but I prefer the internet.
Interviewing people who work in a similar situation to your character is also a good idea if you live near someone you can ask.
Wikipedia is usually where I start, and the straightdope.com forum is a great place to go for obscure knowledge, but mostly I still use books for the info that I actually need to be accurate.
Kirvee
06-18-2009, 09:53 AM
Also, when using Wikipedia, be sure you take what you get from there with a grain of salt. It's a free-knowledge base that anyone and their mother can edit to say what they want. Always make sure you double-check something from Wikipedia if you doubt its validity.
Well yeah, that's a given, but as long as you stay away from the controversial subjects you're usually fine. The problem I run into more often is that the articles on scientific, engineering, mathematical, or philosophical subjects are written for people who are already experts in the field.
Banzai
06-18-2009, 12:31 PM
Well yeah, that's a given, but as long as you stay away from the controversial subjects you're usually fine.
Not necessarily.
That's why wikipedia is never allowed as an academic reference. As my Contract lecturer said, it's use in an academic piece has the weight of referencing a proposition to "my friend down the pub".
It's good for getting a basic understanding of a subject, yes, but it should always be treated with extreme caution. There are a lot of people who go around it committing small acts of vandalism which completely change the meanings.
mammamaia
06-18-2009, 05:02 PM
listen to banzai!... it's the sad truth, kids...
Why do I suddenly feel like I'm a person who admitted he watches anime and finds himself being called a pedophile?
Banzai
06-18-2009, 07:21 PM
Why do I suddenly feel like I'm a person who admitted he watches anime and finds himself being called a pedophile?
Easy, I was just expressing a different opinion.
Except that the opinion I expressed is that wikipedia is a good place to start research, and good enough for everyday understanding, but that if accuracy is important you need to go to another resource, usually books. I would never dream of doing anything like citing it in a paper.
arron89
06-18-2009, 07:46 PM
JSTOR. If you can access it, use it. Its the greatest database of journals, magazines and other publications everrrrrrrrrr.
Seriously, I can't imagine doing any serious academic study without it. Must've been hard before the internet, huh....
Agreen
06-18-2009, 08:03 PM
JSTOR. If you can access it, use it. Its the greatest database of journals, magazines and other publications everrrrrrrrrr.
Seriously, I can't imagine doing any serious academic study without it. Must've been hard before the internet, huh....
You'd better have liked microfilm...
Cogito
06-18-2009, 08:25 PM
Microfiche viewers, afternoons and evenings going through 50 pounds of books at a time (many of them were in German, because I was researching chemistry most often), printing out stacks of photrocopies for further study, hours goind through the card catalogs, ...
You can call them the good old days if you wish.
samessex
06-25-2009, 09:26 AM
i think its good to actually go to locations you have in mind, if possible of course!! For example, the story im creating ideas for at the moment, is going to set in east end london. So soon ill probably taking a few trips down then, with camera, pen and paper, and jotting and snapping some ideas and descriptions etc.
Cogito
06-25-2009, 09:29 AM
I do so wish I could, but there are very few travel options to Beta Hydri IV. My research, and there was a good deal of it, has required a different approach.
It may not be 100% accurate, but hopefully it's plausible and self-consistent.
Cheeno
06-25-2009, 09:37 AM
'Walking' through my latest novel entailed spending time in quite a number of pubs in Dublin, sussing out the layout and decor, as well as the clientel and atmosphere. Suffice it to say I put on a few unwanted lbs from all the requisite pints. Call it...'method' research.;)
Cogito
06-25-2009, 09:40 AM
Is that research expense tax-deductible? ;)
samessex
06-25-2009, 12:42 PM
'Walking' through my latest novel entailed spending time in quite a number of pubs in Dublin, sussing out the layout and decor, as well as the clientel and atmosphere. Suffice it to say I put on a few unwanted lbs from all the requisite pints. Call it...'method' research.;)
haha i like your style!! it has to be done. all in the name of work! :rolleyes:
tbeverley
06-26-2009, 08:03 AM
Wikipedia. I spend like 40 hours a week reading wikipedia articles. Usually, if I need to research something, I type the keywords into google with "wiki" at the end, which brings up a wikipedia page on the subject. Then, I follow links in wikipedia and learn about everything revolving around the subject.
zaphod
06-26-2009, 08:10 AM
does anyone here contribute or edit wikipedia?
I am like you, my natural curiosity has me browsing that site literally hours a week. Of in the articles I find plenty of bull****, whether it's incorrect facts, no cited sources, vandalism, or bad grammar.
But every time I have thought "I am going to fix this", I get overwhelmed or discouraged by all the edit page stuff. There was a time when I repaired the citations on an article only to get a really, really nasty email by some stuck-up punk who thinks he's the master of the interwebz. How does a newbie get into that kind of stuff? Are there any good tutorials to read? How do you find wikipedia's forums or message boards? I've heard the people who edit the site can be rather unfriendly and territorial.
tbeverley
06-26-2009, 08:58 AM
How does a newbie get into that kind of stuff? Are there any good tutorials to read? How do you find wikipedia's forums or message boards? I've heard the people who edit the site can be rather unfriendly and territorial.
I couldn't tell you. I have only edited a few spots in there, just for grammar or punctuation or something equally minor. However, I haven't run into any problems with the content. I read a lot about WWII because of what I'm writing, and most of the facts seem to have decent references (but I'm writing fiction based on personal relationships, so the facts of the war are vague and secondary).
I wouldn't use wikipedia for a factual source; I'd say a book from the library after researching the general subject online would be much better. But, for me, to use wikipedia as a quick reference to familiarize myself with a general time, that works well for me for what I'm doing.
For example, I have a Spanish Gypsy character, and needed to have a dialect of the Gypsy language for him to speak in, so I looked up "Spanish Gypsy wiki" on google and read the wikipedia article till i found the word "Calo," which is a Spanish Gypsy dialect. Thus, my character now speaks Calo. :P
Wikipedia, for me, is the equivalent of being able to search a million page encyclopedia without having to turn the pages.
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