Okay, I figured it'd be better to make a discussion thread for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows sooner rather than later.

As of now, since the book hasn't been released yet, I'd like to know your theories on what may or may not happen in the book, and why.

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Just under 24 hours till the release!

*gleeeeee*
17 hours left!
Theory time: (Keep in mind these are just my opinions, not definite or even informed bits of info. I don't think there are any real spoilers, but if anyone has a gripe, I shall hide it.):
1. I think Harry's a horcrux
2. I think Snape works not for good or evil, but for his own best interests.
3. I don't think Hogwarts will reopen, and if it does, Harry won't be there for very long.
4. Luna and Neville will get together
5. Harry will die, but Voldemort will suffer a fate worse than death.
6. Ron and Hermione will get together.
7. The climactic fight between Harry and Voldemort will take place at the Veil, which we will learn more about in this book.
8. Voldemort has a passionate love affair with the Giant Squid!!!11!1!one1!

(Oh, and by the way, it's Deathly Hallows, with an 'a'.)

On the off chance someone has not read The Half Blood Prince:

I suspect that Dumbledore's death was pre-arranged by himself and Snape, and was sealed with an Unbreakable Vow. He may in fact not be dead, but his consciousness may now live within Snape's body. Since this undoubtedly also meant that Snape already gave his life to allow Albus entry, he would not have had to fear the consequences of the Unbreakable Vow he took at Spinner's End.

That would allow Dumbledore to infiltrate the Death Eaters, and would also fit with his unwavering trust of Severus.

Even if Dumbledore is completely dead, though, I believe Snape's escape was a plan to get close to Voldemort.

*gleeeeee*
17 hours left!
Theory time: (Keep in mind these are just my opinions, not definite or even informed bits of info. I don't think there are any real spoilers, but if anyone has a gripe, I shall hide it.):
1. I think Harry's a horcrux
2. I think Snape works not for good or evil, but for his own best interests.
3. I don't think Hogwarts will reopen, and if it does, Harry won't be there for very long.
4. Luna and Neville will get together
5. Harry will die, but Voldemort will suffer a fate worse than death.
6. Ron and Hermione will get together.
7. The climactic fight between Harry and Voldemort will take place at the Veil, which we will learn more about in this book.
8. Voldemort has a passionate love affair with the Giant Squid!!!11!1!one1!

These are very good theories. Very good. I think you're wrong about #3 - but seriously, everything else sounds very very plausible.

(Oh, and by the way, it's Deathly Hallows, with an 'a'.)

Opps... thanks!

Cogito - also great ideas. I don't think you're right, but I think it's possible.

These are very good theories. Very good. I think you're wrong about #3 - but seriously, everything else sounds very very plausible.


What...even number 8? O.o

To Cogito:

Wouldn't Dumbledore being alive in that sense break the vow of the spell? Though I do believe it is entirely possible that his death was scripted as it will undeniably gain Snape further access into Voldemort's lair. Perhaps we'll have another trip to the pensieve? Nothing can truly kill a good idea. Dumbledore may have a Horcrux as well for all we know.

adamant

(Again, spoilers with respect to The Half-Blood Prince
Dumbledore being alive would break Snape's pact with Narcissa and Bellatrix, but if Snape already gave his life to fulfil his pact with Dumbledor FIRST, the sisters' pact couldn't do anything to stop him.

The Pensieve has been used a great deal already, but I wouldn't count it out entirely.

As for Dumbledore having a horcrux, I don't believe he would on moral grounds.

Cogito

Wait, what is the pact with Albus that you're referring to?

I'm not sure what conflicting vows would do to someone. Could they nullify, or possibly override one another? My guess would be that he is still held accountable for the Unbreakable Vow -- though the view of him not having a life to give is interesting. The thing I'm stuck on is that Dumbledore would have to die (I'm going to re-read that passage), and him simply living in another vessel doesn't seem to fulfill the promise made.

Alright, not a horcrux specifically, but some other way. Actually... that couldn't happen because Voldemort would have thought of that route first.

Assuming Albus really is gone for good, I think there would be some way for Harry to receive some more instruction from him. Maybe we get to go back to the veil that swallowed Sirius way back when. And what about that mirror that he gave him? Perhaps it's due to the fact that I haven't read HP in a while, but I don't remember much happening with it.

Not to mention, there are all of those pictures in the office of the headmaster.

Using the spoiler feature makes me feel like a spy. Haha.

Yeah, I think it's all in the portraits in the office.
Also: Has anyone else thought that Dumbledore might become a ghost...?

adamant, Ivan:

(Again, spoilers with respect to The Half-Blood Prince)

adamant, I was referring to a hypothetical prior Unbreakable Vow made between Snape and Dumbledore. Dumbledore has been very clear all along that he completely trusts Snape. Such a prior vow to Dumbledore, carefully worded by him would be a strong basis for that certainty.

Since the vow to Dumbledore would also cause Snape to voluntarily give up his life, the fact that the concommitant breaking of the vow to Narcissus and Bellatrix would kill Snape is pretty much redundant. For that reason, Snape took that second vow fearlessly.

The mirror that Sirius gave Harry went inert after Sirius was lost through the arch, That was Harry's strongest evidence that Sirius was truly dead.

The portrait of a dead Dumbledore could pass along some information. That's an interesting possibility.

Ghost is also a possibility, too, I suppose. Seems a bit too mundane for Dumbledore though.

Obviously, Minerva McGonnagal will be the next Headmaster.

Incidentally, anyone notice that the curse on the Defense Against the Dark Arts seems to still be in effect? Regardless of Snape's fate, he is finished teaching that class. I would almost bet that Snape teaching that class was an element leading up to whatever pact or agreement Dumbledore may have had with Snape.

Cogito once again...


I suppose it is possible that Snape took the vow with Albus due to the fact that Severus is so skilled in Legilimency and still Dumbledore trusted him so given his background. But the problem is, we don't know what the promise would have been about. I wish we knew of the 'Bonder' that oversaw the vow taking place.

Also, what do you believe that Dumbledore was begging for as Snape stepped in? (Wiki refreshed my memory)

As for your speculations regarding Snape and the position of the DADA teacher, why would he have been so eager to gain that post all this time if it was part of Dumbledore's plan?

adamant

Because he is a true member of the Order of the Phoenix, and wants to see a fainal end to Voldemort.

Also, It mat be noth a plan by Dumbledore AND a prophecy.

I believe Snape owes some great debt to Dumbledore, which he honestly wants to repay in full. Taking down Voldemort would balance the books and place him in a position of honor. Any of the Order would gladly give his or her life for such an outcome.

But there were no real signs of Voldemort's existence. Even if they knew he was alive, Snape wouldn't have been able to find him, or do much -- and I doubt he can kill Riddle single-handedly. Thusly, his eagerness is for naught.

Eh. If only the hours would pass quicker. UPS, come here with breakneck speed!

Aha! I have the book, it is 2:02 AM, and I have officially read 103 pages. This is what I have to say: (don't worry, it's not exactly a doozy)

HEDWIG!!!!! D= D= D= *waaaa*

That will be all. Thank you.

Definitely not my favorite book in the series. I did not like the ending, at all. I could have written a better ending. Or just cut out the dang epilogue.

Also, I was very not big on them not going back to school. There was a recurring plot throughout it all, go somewhere, meet Voldemort/Voldemort cronies, fight them, only nearly get away, run somewhere else, repeat ad nauseum

Definitely not the best.

Well, I have secured my copy. Got myself up at a bleak 5:40 AM to get to the nearest grocery store opening at 6 (okay, not the craziest of wake-up times, but pretty good right?) Can't wait to start reading. Have fun everyone.

And I have just picked up my copy, so I won't be looking back at this thread until I have finished the book. I plan tp tale my time and enjoy it. So don't think I'm ignoring you if you respond to something I said earlier and hear only crickets...

I queued at midnight for the book, at a local 24hr supermarket, and then went straight home and started reading it. I went to bed three hours later - since my eyes just wouldn't stay open any longer - and then six hours later was up and reading again... anyways the point is... I finished it about two and a half hours ago :D

Anyways there are spoilers below so don't read if you don't want to ruin it for yourselves:

Overall I thought that the book was very good, but there were things that I didn't like. I liked the idea of having an epilogue in principle, but that one just didn't do anything for me... lol and towards the end the book did get very very predictable.

I have to say... poor Hedwig!

I was expecting one of the bigger characters to die off, as in Harry, Ron or Hermione but was sad to see Lupin go :( Especially after he'd just realised that Harry was right when he said he needed to be with his son etc instead of rushing into danger with the three of them.

Also, I didn't like the fact that so much of it was set away from Hogwarts, which has pretty much been the focal point of the rest of the books. It also seemed like the "smaller" characters took an even bigger back seat in this book which made it harder to miss them when they died... I know what I mean :D

It's 11:20 PM, Friday the 21st, August 2007, and I, age 13, just finished Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.

I mean no hint of self-mockery or exaggeration when I say: It's a masterpiece. The ending is perfect. It is absolutely, undeniably perfect. =;D

EXTREME SPOILERS following.


Sure the deaths were sad; but they were necessary. It's a war, people. And the characters JK chose to die were perfect- their sacrifices and losses were the most meaningful for their respective situations, and their treatments were perfectly fitting and respectful. From Dobby to Fred, I thought JK handled it well (As long as we've got that one twin left, the world has hope! =D ) As for the other, more primary characters like Lupin, Tonks, etc...the Resurrection Stone in the forest was a beautiful piece. Just enough to give consolation and not so much as to feel like cheating.

People say they don't like Harry being away from Hogwarts, but I thought it was a wonderful, novel change that shows...well, change. Come year seven, things have changed in the wizarding world, and having the Main Trio on the run, relying on their own wits, works out, especially the joy readers will get seeing their heroes work everything out for themselves (In particular, seeing Hermione crash the Trio through Xeno's house to escape the Death Eaters was fun to read; exciting movie fodder right there! JK knows when to be thoughtful and when to give us wonderful, thoughtless action.) And for those suffering Hogwarts Deprivation: Just as the Resurrection Stone apologized the pain of death, the Battle of Hogwarts chapter totally covered for the lack of Hogwarts in the rest of the book. Seeing the teachers, students, and actual castle itself jump into action gave me a thrill of excitement for the residents of Hogwarts that, even in the joy of other HP books, I have never experienced before. Seeing all my favorite characters rely on their oddball ways like tossing Mandrakes over a roof and bewitching a cavalry of desks was an experience that sent fits of laughter through my body even as I read on, desperately wanting to know what happened next.

The epilogue: Let it be, people, it did no harm to you. If I had to find a gripe about it, it could only be this: There's no George! =D But I'm sure he's doing fine on himself (Hence the happy smiley. When there's a Weasley twin out of sight, you know he's up to something!)

The death and rebirth of Harry Potter was wonderfully executed; I'd suspected for a long time that Harry was a horcrux, but never that Voldemort also contained Harry. But when you think back on it, you can't really call it cheating- all the clues were there to be picked up on! It was up to how smart we were to figure it out- and those of us (read: me) too dumb to see it coming didn't feel ashamed, because we were too busy having a great time reading this book. Also, Dumbledore's line about what is real and what is in Harry's head at the end of the King's Cross chapter sent delighted chills down my spine (Although, to be honest, Mrs. Weasley has by far the best line in the book in The Flaw In the Plan; I think most people will know what I mean. =D

So, in short: I can not gush about this book enough, and disgusted though you may be, all my worries, fears, and anxieties were vanquished; it was all quite wonderful to read, and I think JK Rowling can definitely retire happy (Although I hope she doesn't- I don't need more Harry Potter, but if she stopped writing books totally, I would be greatly dismayed!) with the satisfaction of a job well done.

Thank you.

Well, I just finished the final Harry Potter book, just twenty minutes shy of my twenty four hour deadline. (Oh why oh why did I have to go to sleep for eight hours? why oh why did I play Metal Gear Ac!d2 for two hours? Why oh why did I eat those sloppy joes... ugh...) I mean, it only took like... carry the one... lets say ten hours to read, but it wasn't within my goal mark.

I have one major complaint though:why are the Slytherins all evil?! I barely remember the droning story that was Half-Blood Prince, but I recall Slorace Hughorn being a pretty okay guy, and yet at the end he was siding with Riddle. (that's another thing I liked, Harry called him Riddle) Why is it that despite Regulus Black becoming a good guy (and, like, dying when he could have just gone back...) and Harry telling Albus Severus that Slytherins aren't bad, and even Malfoy(s) being less of a tool near the end, then why were there no Slytherins in the D.A.? I mean damnit, if they were all bad why even bring the damn House back? if the Slytherins never did anything and where all dark wizards then why even let more of them grow? I mean, that's just horrible writing to have them all be evil, and I've thought that threw the whole series.

In other news, that epilogue made me smile and feel all warm and fuzzy inside. too warm and fuzzy. I kinda wonder who Draco married. Also, I think it Ron should have named his kid Fred.

Now for things I need cleared up for me withot having to reread all six of the other ones:
1. When did he put the diadem on that statue? book one or something? cause I really don't remember, I thought in the first one it just held the mirror and all.
2. I don't remember Draco taking Dumbledore's wand...
that's about it, also you were pretty spot on with your guesses Ivan, floored me. Especially the squid sex.

When's the last book of Inheritance come out? Ah Hell, what am I gonna read without Harry Potter and Dragon-Star Wars?!

I finished it in, just under five hours, and I think it was a good ending to the series. Maybe not a very good ending, but a good ending.

Crazy Ivan is right about most of it, the characters that had to die, died, although, I'm not sure how to count Dobby in the grand scheme of things.

Really, I mean the whole thing with the Hallows, and his Invisibility Cloak, can't say I was too surprised by it, but the Resurrection Stone being left in the Forest by Harry, I would have gone looking for it to hide it in Hogwarts, leaving this Elder wand with Dumbledore, the second last person to win it.

The other complaint I have about it is the lack of variety of spells used by Harry, I mean Ron and Hermione are the equivalent of a field battery of 205mm guns next to what he was casting.

nice book to read, it was. and you know about that thing with certain books, how you cant put them down... i could put tis book down, but wit effort, and suddenly seeing everything else i have to do as strangely...insignificant compared to reading the book.
and i did. and i feel strangely satisfied now. its a great book, answered everything, and i love the bit when...never mind. the epilogue was i think, something JK just had to add in, to finish the epic story finally.

good book overall, and hopefully they'll replace shakespeare n english lessons (no offence, just find it really boring and outdated)

Edward:


1. He put the diadem on the statue in Book Six, I'm guessing, when he first found the room where everything was hidden. I don't remember the specific moment, but it seems right.
2. I think Draco took Dumbledore's wand to kill him with, but he didn't have the guts, so Snape did it. (Well, that's not TECHNICALLY why Snape did it, but you know what I mean.)

Also, about the Slytherin thing: I can't account for the adults, but for the kids of Slytherin house, I just have to say: Kids are little b__tards. It's true. I should know.

I have finished my first reading of the Deathly Hallows.

Book 7 spoilers!
My first reaction i: What a body count, especially for something considered to be a children's book!
This is by far the darkest and most violent of the Harry Potter books. That's not surprising, but the degree of escalation of violence did surprise me somewhat.

Still, I thought it was very well done. Many great acts of heroism and compassion, but it could have benefitted from some comic relief.

All told, I think it was an excellent conclusion to the series, while leaving doors open for more adventures in this world, but not what I would call a delightfull reading experience.

good book overall, and hopefully they'll replace shakespeare n english lessons (no offence, just find it really boring and outdated)

Our school actually studies one of the Harry Potter books for AS level... but I don't do any English literature so I don't know which one or why lol.

Book 7 spoilers!
My first reaction i: What a body count, especially for something considered to be a children's book!
This is by far the darkest and most violent of the Harry Potter books. That's not surprising, but the degree of escalation of violence did surprise me somewhat.


I have to agree. In fact I found a few things in this book quite suprising. I remember reading it and thinking "they can't put that in a children's book" but apparantly they can and they have.

No spoilers.

I personally don't think of this series as children's books. Thereis obviously a lot to appeal to young readers, and Rowling definitely does not talk down to her readers. But I know of more avid adult Harry Potter readers than younger ones.

I do know some younger HP movie fans who'd just as soon not bother with reading the books... :(

Yes, I really do hate those. "lol ive seen the moovees so i can say Hairy Pooter sux!lolol" Eurgh.

Yeah I hate it when people judge a book by the movie. There are loads of people that I know, not all of them are really young - many my age... who've only ever watched the films and then proceed to judge the books :(

Cogito I didn't mean that the book was only for children, I too know lots of adults that read them. I suppose I meant that.... i'll put it in the spoiler in case lol.

The books got quite dark to say that there is such a large proportion of young children that read the books, or have the books read to them.

I absoloutley adored the book. I have been hooked on Harry Potter since the day Philosophers Stone was released, and I felt that this was truly a fitting and beautiful ending to the series.

I felt that the deaths were... targic, but necesary. I even felt a jolt of grief for Crabbe; like Harry said, no-one should die like that. Dobby's death tore me up, especially the funeral! I did feel that Tonks and Lupin dying seemed like a bit of an... afterthought? I feel that they were important enough characters to justify us seeing them die, yet we were just informed that they had died. I also was heartbroken that they killed Colin Creevey! Why?!

I also feel that the ending would have been improved if (bear with me here!) JK had listed the 50 other victims who gave their lives fighting Voldemort and his army. Yes, it may have been time-consuming, but I don't care; I want to know if the minor characters we have spent 10 years falling for survived the battle! Cho, Ernie, Justin, Lavender (Lavender especially, as the last we heard she was being mauled by Fenrir!), Hannah, Seamus, Dean, Susan, Anjelina, Alicia, Micheal, Terry, Padma, Parvati, Katie... well, you get the picture!

I loved that Snape was good! I have had my doubts about him throughout the series, but what an ending for him!

The 'Nineteen Years Later' section was... I dunno... It seemed a bit cheesey to be honest!

But, on the whole, I felt the book was an amazing ending to a phenomenal series.

Cogito I didn't mean that the book was only for children, I too know lots of adults that read them. I suppose I meant that.... i'll put it in the spoiler in case lol.

That wasn't aimed your way, but more at the newscasters who treat it solely as a children's phenomenon, that point the cameras at a few colorful adult fans as if to say "and here are a couple of kooky older fans recapturing their childhood."

If anything, I think Jo Rowling targeted an audience that has grown with the series and who are now young adults. The themes have matured as Harry has.

Yeah. Just think: If you were seven when the first HP book came out, a great age to have that book read to you, you'd be seventeen now- exactly the age Harry is in this book, and ready to deal with the morals Harry does.
And of course you can have kids read what happens in that book: They'll have to encounter death sometime. It's part of life. And the way Rowling handles it gently and optimistically towards the end is a great way to introduce them.

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Puzzled here - hasn't it been staying on topic? Or did something already get purged, and I didn't see it?

Not sure... I haven't seen anything go off topic all day but I might have missed it. I was online when that was posted though.

none. I'm just telling people only to post in here on Harry Potter and not to go off that area.

Also, I don't think you really have to post those spoiler tags unless you talk about another Harry Potter book, after all, anyone who goes into this thread has been warned that this thread will contain spoilers.

I'll certainly continue to use spoilers, because some people are just stupid like that when it comes to the internet and warnings. (Also, I frown on the idea of reminding us not to go off-topic when there hasn't been a single sign we were going to do so; the past three posts have been off-topic because of it. It's like saying "so, what would you say if I crashed this car?" while driving. It bugs people. Siiigh.)

So anyway:


My only problem with the epilogue is that it left a lot of characters hanging. We know about Neville, Harry, Ginny, Ron, Hermione, Draco, and...that's it. What happened to George? Luna? All the people who were about to die? As Jmitchell said, it was a nice ending, but I could use some closure. Still, it does leave the door open for just about anything in the future... >=D

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Yeah but LP did tell us to use them lol... better safe than sorry really. Better not to upset anybody at all.

First a word about spoilers:
The thread contains info by people who have read the book, but it also contains speculation from those who have not, or had not when the thread began. So spoilers are still the considerate way to go.

Ivan:
I have heard that Ms. Rowling has been reconsidering her original intentions to terminate the series after 7 books. I suspect the epilog is deliberately incomplete to not overly constrain the future of the characters and environment.

Oh yeah I heard that too...

I was just reading the Wikipedia article on Slytherin (cause seriously, what better do I have to do at 5 a.m.?) apparently there was originally going to be a Slytherin who was half-Squib half-Muggle, and related to the Weasleys. That's an interesting tidbit that would have been interesting...

also, it said Slughorn fought for Hogwarts, I don't know I thought it said <random teacher> disarmed Slughorn

on an unrelated note, where was Fawkes?! Harry was supposed to get a new pet in this one!


Oh, also: The thing about Harry Potter being a kids book. The first one was written for eight to twelve year olds (about) the second for twelve, then thirteen, 14, 15, 16, and finally seventeen. It sortof evolved with it's audience. Which as it is the only such story I know of, it's massive staying power is explained. It went from a children's story to a young adult novel. Man, if only other stuff did that... Power Rangers would be dealing with Law and Order issues and have rangers with drug addictions...

I finally finished it all, damn I read slowly.

For my correct theories, I got that the murder was planned, and that the mirror and pensieve were coming into play. But I kept thinking that the Deluminator would somehow repel Dementors.

All in all, it was a good ending and was on par with the rest of the series. Always a fan of the team dynamic -- which is why V was so cool. I loved the way everything was tied together as well, there's just something about having most of the information in front of you - makes you want to go through the others stories.

Maybe it was just me, but some of the syntax seemed a little odd at times (esp. in the beginning). Or perhaps that's one of the many reasons I read so slow?

Anyway, it's stories like this that make me want to pursue writing novels. My own little slice of immortality I dare say.

Hehe... I thought it was [spoilers]. Technically, it was multiple.

Another series that does what Edward mentioned is the Tiffany Aching series, which is basically Harry Potter that's been delightfully inverted: It's about a girl on the fantastical planet of Discworld training to be a witch. And since they're by Terry Pratchett, they're bound to be hilarious. But the thing is, the time that passes between the books is "real time", and it reflects in tone, too: The first book, a silly easy read, took place when Tiffany was 9. The second, released two years later, had Tiffany as an 11-year-old, and the tone was that much more serious. And the most recent, released January, had Tiffany as a 13-year-old and it certainly got very dark at parts. (Ah, heck, I'll just say what I'm getting at: READ THESE BOOKS!)
So what we gather from both this series and that is that aging your characters, while a risky move, is extremely rewarding if you play it off right.

I'll certainly continue to use spoilers, because some people are just stupid like that when it comes to the internet and warnings. (Also, I frown on the idea of reminding us not to go off-topic when there hasn't been a single sign we were going to do so; the past three posts have been off-topic because of it. It's like saying "so, what would you say if I crashed this car?" while driving. It bugs people. Siiigh.)

So anyway:


My only problem with the epilogue is that it left a lot of characters hanging. We know about Neville, Harry, Ginny, Ron, Hermione, Draco, and...that's it. What happened to George? Luna? All the people who were about to die? As Jmitchell said, it was a nice ending, but I could use some closure. Still, it does leave the door open for just about anything in the future... >=D

It was just a statement, no need for any comotion in my opinon.

my take on the book:

persoannaly, i loved the book. i thought it was brilliant. there were the occasional parts were i had to stop and think twice about whathad happened, but to be honest it made it slightly more interesting.

as for the epilouge, i think that as shewas planning to finish writing the stories after the seventh book, by writing an epilouge it sort of seals everything off, rather than leaving everyone hanging. if she had left it hanging, it would have filled everyone with hope that the books might continue, but judging on the way thatshe ended it, i am thinking that there wil be no more. :(

the death of Lupin and Tonks made my cry my eyes out :'( i mean, i know the deaths were relevant and that, but why did they both have to die, it is so sad. i also cried when Dobby died, it was sooooo sad. the end made me smile, and my favourite chapter in the book was Kings Cross, where Harry has a heart to heart with Dumbledore. i made me smile and cry and i just love that old guy :) i loved thefact thatthere was the element of trust going on between Harry and Dumbledore, i made you think for once that you should trust the people you love, even if everyone else doesn't, which in the end Harry does.

in general i thought it was an excellent book. every time i read JK's books i find them seriously hard to put down and they always seem to leave me feeling . . . empty, but in a good way. although, they make me seem sometimes like my life and what i do is irrelevant, but once again, in a good way. anyway, before i keep on talking and talking and talkng, an excellent book, thouroughly enjoyed it and the entire series for that matter.


just out of curiousity, what is everyone's favourite book in the series?

I think Chamber of secrets was great, HBP and ye Deathly Hallows

She still has some unaswered questions though, like the veil n stuff!

What exactly is unanswered with that? and what other mysteries are you referring to?

The Department of Mysteries, for a few. And the other characters (WHEREZ MAH LUNA?! D=). If JK wrote more books in that world but centering on other characters, that would be GREAT.

Also, my favorite book was Deathly Hallows by far.

My personal preference would be something along the lines of:

V. Phoneix
VII. Hallows
I. Philosopher's Stone
III. Azkaban
IV. Goblet
VI. Prince
II. Chamber

Though my memory of them is a bit shaky, and some lines blur. So who is to be sure?

well, my order would be

Hallows
Azkaban
Half-blood
Phoneix
Goblet of Fire
Chamber of Secrets
Philosephers Stone

and i don't get the veil. why did he die 'dos he'd fallen through it??

Because it's a one way portal into the afterlife. From this side, those who have seen death can hear whispers (of those they saw die?), but once someone passes through, there is no return.

The ability to hear the whispers seems to be like the ability to see thestrals. I think the veil was invisible as well to those who had not seen death.

One hell of a metaphor if you ask me. You don't how one longs for those that have fallen until you lose someone yourself. But this can also benefit your perspective in some ways.

Aha!
Fear not, readers: We MAY get to know what happened to everyone, after all!
(WARNING: Spoilers in this article)
Stop your sobbing! More Potter to come - Wild about Harry - MSNBC.com (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/19935372/)

I'm glad of that, should be pretty cool to read :)

I love the Scene with Harry and Luna when they are in the Ravenclaw common room, some great stuff there :D

yeaa, looking forward to her doing that, if she does. actually, it has some wuite interesting articles about Harry Potter on there, and what happens to people after the book, you should check some og the others out

I love the Scene with Harry and Luna when they are in the Ravenclaw common room, some great stuff there yeaa, really good scene that when he stuck up for McGonagall. :)

I think my favourite scene is where:

Neville rallies Dumbledore's Army just after they've brought Harry's 'corpse' out. Such a dramatic scene!

yea, that was good, very good. makes you see Neville completely differently from before.

And the bit at the end where we find out:

Neville becomes 'Professor Longbottom'. Made me smile, that did.

lol, yeaa. btw, perhaps that should be in a spolier, and the first bit you posted, just incase.

How do I put stuff in a spoiler?

Writing Forums - vB Code List (http://www.writingforums.org/misc.php?do=bbcode#spoiler)

Great link, Ivan - I never knew we had a vB code reference thread!

Specific answer for MedicMan:

Content that may spoil a reader's experience
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Content that may spoil a reader's experience

Awesome cheers, I'll sort that out in a minute

I think my favorite part of that entire book, is when:

Harry is at what he thinks is King's Cross with Dumbledore. At the very end of the chapter, Harry asks if this is all in his head, if it is real.

I love what Dumbledore says in response!

"Of course this is all in your head, Harry. But why would that mean that it isn't real?"

That was the best part of the entire book! It was just like...wow!

I love J.K. Rowling, she really is a master of words; great at adding in metaphors and other techniques that just seem to make the book so much richer to an English nerd like myself.

I've started reading book 1 again. ;)

pen/soul, please be considerate and use the spoiler tags. you'll find the method of using them above.

Too Crazy Ivan: There could always be a run off but what would the story be? theres no dark wizard everyone is fearing, only way i could see them making a decent run off is if that have on of harry's sons try and over throw him or something stupid like that but it would still be pushing JKs luck for another book worth reading

I finally finished it all, damn I read slowly.

For my correct theories, I got that the murder was planned, and that the mirror and pensieve were coming into play. But I kept thinking that the Deluminator would somehow repel Dementors.

All in all, it was a good ending and was on par with the rest of the series. Always a fan of the team dynamic -- which is why V was so cool. I loved the way everything was tied together as well, there's just something about having most of the information in front of you - makes you want to go through the others stories.

Maybe it was just me, but some of the syntax seemed a little odd at times (esp. in the beginning). Or perhaps that's one of the many reasons I read so slow?

Anyway, it's stories like this that make me want to pursue writing novels. My own little slice of immortality I dare say.

Hehe... I thought it was [spoilers]. Technically, it was multiple.

Thats exactly i fely after getting done with it, it was a great series that i dreaded have to end but it would get old if it didnt so yep im just agreeing with you on your statment

same.. I've just started reading book 1 again too

Sorry to anybody that gets offended but i've edited some people's posts for not putting in spoiler tags. Please be considerate and use them, there are plenty of explanations on how to use them in this very thread.

Thanks

Iv never gave harry potter books a chance, but man they are everywhere. I am going to start the first book soon.

I just want to know does anyone know how many characters are in the harry potter book series?

Uhhh....a world's worth? Lots of characters. It's impossible to count, really.

Yeah, true. One of the best bits is that all the ancillary characters are described in just enough detail to make them feel like a part of the story, without over-complicating matters.

Didn't read this whole thread, I just finished the book a few days ago.

I *knew* Harry was a Horcrux (however they're spelled). I *knew* it. Also there was the common theory that Snape was acting on behalf of Dumbledore. I guess that was right, though I kinda hoped he hadn't been.

Anyone else as mad as me about the ending?

I read the book a few days back.
Loved the epilogue ^.^

I guess that was right, though I kinda hoped he hadn't been. why? i thought it fitted in wonderfully to be honest, i mean, i don't think Dumbledore can be that bad at judging charector.

Yeah, I thought it worked really well. I thought the book on the whole was well written, and I was glad it finally solved all the plot threads that had been hanging from previous books :p

God, the book was great. She killed off too many characters, though; I wouldn't have cared if every death advanced the plot, but I can only think of a few that did.

Hedwig - Her death represented a loss of innocence for Harry: during his summers with the Dursleys, she had been his only magical companion.

Scrimgeour - Self-explanatory: he had to die for the ministry to be overthrown.

Snape and Voldemort, as well as Bellatrix (though Harry should've killed her instead of Molly Weasley when she attempted to murder Ginny, that would've shown that they still had a connection - they hadn't talked in months.)

But Fred, Lupin, and Tonks were horrible. Fred, because he and George were so much better than the sum of their parts and that sort of destroyed their double thing, and Lupin and Tonks didn't further the plot at all and if you blinked, you'd miss their deaths.

please please please use spoliers for a start of. but no, i think the deaths were nessesary. if you were not to have had the deaths it would have seemed unrealistic i think. it was big fight, there needed to be more than two or three people dying. isn't that what happens in battle, inocent people die?

I really liked the story. It was a little slow at the beginning but the ending was excellent. Although I would have liked one or two more people dying.






I'm kind of evil that way.

All I can say is...

Neville is the hero of the series

All I can say is...

Neville is the hero of the series

He certainly did play a role, though I don't know that things wouldn't have turned out well without him.

shhhh....