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Domoviye
08-12-2007, 10:13 PM
Dust ‘comes alive’ in space - Times Online (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2241753.ece)

SCIENTISTS have discovered that inorganic material can take on the characteristics of living organisms in space, a development that could transform views of alien life.

An international panel from the Russian Academy of Sciences, the Max Planck institute in Germany and the University of Sydney found that galactic dust could form spontaneously into helixes and double helixes and that the inorganic creations had memory and the power to reproduce themselves.

A similar rethinking of prospective alien life is being undertaken by the National Research Council, an advisory body to the US government. It says Nasa should start a search for what it describes as “weird life” - organisms that lack DNA or other molecules found in life on Earth.

The new research, to be published this week in the New Journal of Physics, found nonorganic dust, when held in the form of plasma in zero gravity, formed the helical structures found in DNA. The particles are held together by electromagnetic forces that the scientists say could contain a code comparable to the genetic information held in organic matter. It appeared that this code could be transferred to the next generation.

Professor Greg Morfill, of the Max Planck institute of extra-terrestrial physics, said: “Going by our current narrow definitions of what life is, it qualifies.

“The question now is to see if it can evolve to become intelligent. It’s a little bit like science fiction at the moment. The potential level of complexity we are looking at is of an amoeba or a plant.

“I do not believe that the systems we are talking about are life as we know it. We need to define the criteria for what we think of as life much more clearly.”

It may be that science is starting to study territory already explored by science fiction. The television series The X-Files, for example, has featured life in the form of a silicon-based parasitic spore.

The Max Planck experiments were conducted in zero gravity conditions in Germany and on the International Space Station 200 miles above earth.

The findings have provoked speculation that the helix could be a common structure that underpins all life, organic and nonorganic.

rml8607
08-12-2007, 11:09 PM
fascinating

Banzai
08-13-2007, 02:18 AM
...does this mean the dust in my room might try to kill me in my sleep?

*goes off to vacuum*

Frost
08-13-2007, 05:13 AM
We will be well prepared for an invasion in any case.

Banzai
08-13-2007, 05:25 AM
Hoovers at the ready :p

Sayso
08-13-2007, 05:35 AM
Course dust is alive. No matter how many times you remove it from the house, it just wanders back in.

Banzai
08-13-2007, 05:39 AM
It does, you know... Twyford is the dustiest place in the UK, I swear. Mind you, now that I don't live there, I should change my location thing....

Night Haunter
08-13-2007, 05:40 AM
Well I have lved amongst dust all my live as have we all and I'm still alive.

adamant
08-13-2007, 05:41 AM
...For now.

dun dunt dun!!

Night Haunter
08-13-2007, 05:45 AM
Was that the sound of marching Dust mites lol

adamant
08-13-2007, 05:53 AM
Though... in a way, a few of the religions would be correct in some aspects. We'd have come from dirt/earth, but I think a lot of dust particles come from dead skin cells. Quite a conundrum we've uncovered.

Silly Haunter, you won't hear them until the end. :)

Banzai
08-13-2007, 05:59 AM
This is actually reminding me a lot of the His Dark Materials trilogy, by Phillip Pullman...

Night Haunter
08-13-2007, 06:01 AM
Silly Haunter, you won't hear them until the end. :)
Is it the end yet. I hear them. No wait No i don't its still the voice of mr thimble my right thumb. phew i thought i was going slightly mad there.

Domoviye
08-13-2007, 06:09 AM
This is actually reminding me a lot of the His Dark Materials trilogy, by Phillip Pullman...

Nice spotting. I hadn't even thought of that.

adamant
08-13-2007, 06:10 AM
And I have no idea of what you're alluding to...

Banzai
08-13-2007, 06:12 AM
You've never read the books, adamant? You realy should, they are quite good (well, the beginning of the first book is like wading through waist high mud, but it picks up reasonably quickly). Basically, a substance called "dust" features quite heavily in it.

Night Haunter
08-13-2007, 06:14 AM
Voices still calling.













Nope all clear still Mr Thimble. phew.

Banzai
08-13-2007, 06:21 AM
If your thumb is talking to you, then you could have bigger problems than an impending dust attack...

Domoviye
08-13-2007, 06:26 AM
Thats not necessarily true. If his thumb is talking to him to distract him from an impending dust attack, well I gotta say Night Haunter is totally screwed.

Banzai
08-13-2007, 06:35 AM
It certainly doesn't bode well... Perhaps his mod powers will save him?

Domoviye
08-13-2007, 06:38 AM
He hasn't responded in 22 minutes. I think he's a goner.

Everyone, get the dusters and vacuum cleaners, we must arm yourselves.

Banzai
08-13-2007, 06:42 AM
We need plenty of dusting cloths! And hand vacuums!

adamant
08-13-2007, 06:43 AM
Bambi, you're shielding me if they come after the forum.

Banzai
08-13-2007, 06:45 AM
Hehe, better get your hoover ready, Turkelton :p

adamant
08-13-2007, 06:49 AM
Is that because I'm black, Bambi?

Banzai
08-13-2007, 07:02 AM
...you're black? Seriousy? Lol, I didn't actually know. So that would be a no, in answer to your question :p

Sayso
08-13-2007, 07:03 AM
Oh dear, looks like the dust got to those two too. Good job I'm still fine. Achoo.

Banzai
08-13-2007, 07:06 AM
Bless you.

Sayso
08-13-2007, 07:08 AM
Just a bit of dust up my nose. Nothing to worry about.

adamant
08-13-2007, 07:09 AM
I'm guessing you never saw my picture then, Bambi? I just started reading up on Scrubs (Wikipedia), and have a sudden urge to write something about a hospital.

Banzai
08-13-2007, 07:10 AM
Have you never seen it adamant? And no, I didn't see your picture :p

Sayso
08-13-2007, 07:11 AM
Sorry, completey and utterly off topic.

I saw an orange Subaru at the weekend Adamant. I was so excited, you wouldn't believe it.

*cough cough* Carry on people.

SeaBreeze
08-13-2007, 07:13 AM
Hoovers at the ready :p

IT NEVER HELPS! I clean and vacum my room.. then the sunlight comes through the curtains highlighting various floating dusty stuff! :eek:

Banzai
08-13-2007, 07:14 AM
It's airborn? Damnit, we need air defences!

SeaBreeze
08-13-2007, 07:14 AM
noooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

Sayso
08-13-2007, 07:15 AM
What about the bunnies. Better call in the army.

SeaBreeze
08-13-2007, 07:16 AM
Thanks a lot for thos nightmares!

adamant
08-13-2007, 07:20 AM
I <3 Imprezas. The weird thing is, I think they changed the style yet again. However, I don't think I knew the style with the "vent" front was out as long as it was.

Bambi, I have seen Scrubs - quite a few times - and I absolutely love it. It has so many storylines and weird comedy; quite envious of the writers and theirc characters.

SeaBreeze
08-13-2007, 07:21 AM
We're so gonna get busted for hijaking this thread. Like we always end up doing. :D :p

adamant
08-13-2007, 07:26 AM
Well, seeing as every living thing could possibly be made of dust... we can write about involving life forms, right?

SeaBreeze
08-13-2007, 07:27 AM
lmao. Yeah. :D