View Full Version : Killing the hero 16 chapters before the end?
Charisma 08-24-2007, 05:35 AM Is that a bad plot? My hero's death has a lot linked with it, i.e. without his death many problems will remain unsolved lol. Anyways, my sister suggests I should put him in coma until the last few chapters. But I think my story won't be as crispy as it is now. Suggestions?
Banzai 08-24-2007, 06:19 AM If the story is equally strong after the death, and the death is an integral part of the story, then sure, I don't see why not. I'm assuming that even after his/her death he/she is still the focus of the story, even if he/she is not actually present? ...If that makes any sense at all...
Charisma 08-24-2007, 07:53 AM Not exactly the focus, but the story still has him as an important part of it after the death. Thanks for the opinion.
Cogito 08-24-2007, 10:55 AM I'm not sure I could give a general answer to this. The story sounds like it encompasses a far wider scope than just the hero, so if the rest of the story has the momentum to continue without the hero, then I see no reason it can't work.
Domoviye 08-24-2007, 11:12 AM As long as you have a secondary character ready and willing to take up the slack as Hero, it can work.
Having the hero die, everybody cries, and then the hero jumps back up ready for action as everyone stares in awe, is a cheap thing that is tried far too many times in poorly written fiction.
Edited for clarity
Banzai 08-24-2007, 11:29 AM But then, Dom, it could make it more realistic, rather than having the hero simply survive because they are the hero. Kind of like Nelson at Trafalgar- a great victory, but the Admiral, being just a man, was felled with a single bullet. I don't know, I think I've quite warmed to the idea anthraxx.
Domoviye 08-25-2007, 12:17 AM I meant having the hero coming back like nothing had happened.
I agree with everything you said Banzai. Having the hero die can be excellent. Having the hero die and then come back ready to fight is a bad thing.
Banzai 08-25-2007, 02:34 AM Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that everybody else came back ready fo fight, after the hero died. Which I thought would be quite a good twist :p Glad to see we're on the same wavelength, even if my interpretative skills aren't up to scratch :p
Domoviye 08-25-2007, 04:29 AM No worries. And I did say it rather poorly now that I look it over.
Charisma 08-25-2007, 06:44 AM The specialty of Indian Film Industry is bringing the hero back. :P Cheap.
Well, I have everything to back him up (secondary character), and certainly have no problem as far as managing the storyline is concerned. So I guess he shall die :) But it's a really painful clause in the story. Poor reader (and writer, I wish I could cry over my own character!)
Banzai 08-25-2007, 06:59 AM I've never actually cried over a character, though I've probably killed more than my fair share. The most I've felt is a sense of regret at not having them as a part of it any more.
Charisma 08-25-2007, 07:11 AM Heh, this is the first time I feel sad for my hero's death. Otherwise, I enjoy it.
Banzai 08-25-2007, 07:50 AM Otherwise, I enjoy it.
Psychotic!! Nah, me too :p
Charisma 08-25-2007, 07:55 AM I guess the feeling you may want to arise in your reader's head, is soooo evil that you can't help but smile at your genius twist in the story.
Sir Cameron 08-27-2007, 02:46 AM I'm curious about waht kind of novel this is
Domoviye 08-27-2007, 03:51 AM I cry over my stories a lot. But I so far only write horror dealing with extremely innocent people. So its rather sad seeing them struggle only to know that the light they see at the end of the tunnel is a nuclear bomb.
Charisma 08-27-2007, 06:59 AM Good to hear you are curious, Sir Cameron! It's a tragedy/action/drama novel, more about religions, cultures, love, family life, peer pressure and trust. I'll give you a background if you want. I love telling about my stories :D.
I guess it's hard, Domoviye, when talking of such people. But my hero is pretty poor and angelic too :) lol, I guess not THAT good, but good.
Sir Cameron 08-27-2007, 03:53 PM I'd love it!
Charisma 08-28-2007, 02:52 AM deleted.
anastasiastarz 10-10-2007, 06:55 AM It depends, if your hero isn't the main character then it's alright, but the story should end when the main charcter dies or when you don't know what happens next.
ScaryPen 10-11-2007, 08:56 AM Wow Anthraxx... your story sounds intriguing. It seems to be quiet a complicated plot and I 'm in awe of anyone with the ability to execute such good ideas. Good Luck!
Charisma 10-11-2007, 09:04 AM It depends, if your hero isn't the main character then it's alright, but the story should end when the main charcter dies or when you don't know what happens next.
The hero's death solves certain issues. I'm not sure if I've already said that.
Wow Anthraxx... your story sounds intriguing. It seems to be quiet a complicated plot and I 'm in awe of anyone with the ability to execute such good ideas. Good Luck!
Thank you.
Stinger 10-11-2007, 09:10 AM You should follow your story. Don't force anything to it.
Have you seen Ikiru by Akira Kurosawa? It has same thing.
Charisma 10-11-2007, 09:38 AM You should follow your story. Don't force anything to it.
Have you seen Ikiru by Akira Kurosawa? It has same thing.
Thanks :)
Actually, no.
Funny Bunny 10-24-2007, 11:01 AM I think that there are main characters and also main "Pivitol" characters. If you build up the character, people like him, and then you kill him off, then the story is about the "aftermath" of a person's life. I think the main character is the one most changed at the end of the story. Sometime, you might not know who the main person is at the very beginning. Also, if he dies, he dies. Most of my characters are not sacred. I make them endure some pretty overwhelming obstacles. Some times their flaws doom them.
Charisma 10-24-2007, 11:06 AM I technically completed his life and perfection by killing him. Because my story characters (and me myself) believe in afterlife, death of a good person is not a defeat but victory. And if people he/she leaves behind tend to learn it's good for them. Which is what it is about - problems of inheritance, defending themselves, etc remain which they learn to do on their own. Nevertheless I'm done with this novel so no more yapping. Lol, just that I don't know if I'll even change him and I'm taking opinions. o_0
dead_soul 10-28-2007, 04:37 PM That's a pretty good plot!! I have never heard about killing the hero so soon, but I love the idea. If it's better for the novel to kill the hero, do it and do it good.
It could be strange, though. I mean I would like the novel, but some people won't love the idea to read for no one. Killing the hero means that there's no one to read about and to be attached to. SO you could make someone else becomes the hero after the original one's death.
Good luck!!!!
Charisma 10-28-2007, 06:03 PM I agree dead_soul, and that's what I teach the reader, that he never died. The story becomes exciting in itself, and as a hero I'm not sure any of my characters other than the former hero have a wit to compensate that role. Then again, partial leadership goes to his sister in the remaining part.
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