Can I just say when giving Bad reputation can you please give a valid reason because its not very pleasant receiving Bad reputation without a reason and on a post that does not deserve bad reputation. Today alone three people have contacted me asking why and who has been giving them Bad reputation. I looked at the posts the Bad Rep was given and they certainly didn't deserve any bad rep.

Its your choice to Give Negative Rep But please give it for the right reasons and at least do the honour of explaining in that little rep box the reason you have given bad rep. Its wrong and spiteful to give bad rep just because you can.

As mods we know who is giving bad rep if we look once alerted. So I know who you are. Give it for the right reasons you don't have to give your name but give a valid reason.



To those of you who have receive Bad rep for unfair reasons all I can do is apologise. Alert myself or any of the Mods if you feel its unjust and we'll look at the post and if we agree We will act.






~Raven.

I got bad reputation a while ago (a long while ago) for this post:

Writing Forums - View Single Post - Windows Vista Ultimate. (http://www.writingforums.org/showpost.php?p=58636&postcount=2)

Never figured out why. Never really cared all that much. But while we're on the subject...

Sounds like some personal grudges being taken out in rep. Bad form :(

I got some in the same topic Banzai...

Heh, must have just been the thread. Though as I said, I don't care. It would just be nice if people explained things like that.

Definitely sounds like some personal grudges (or just stupidity) to me as well. I second what Raven said, lets try and keep things fair and give reasons.

Sounds like some personal grudges being taken out in rep. Bad form

that's why i don't think it's a good idea to even have a system of anonymous 'rep'-giving... it's the forum equivalent of being tried, judged and condemned while being denied the right to face your accuser...

why is such a blatanly unfair redundancy needed anyway, when if one wants to either compliment or complain about a poster, it can and should be done [as it frequently is] out in the clear light of day in the thread itself, not with a cowardly shot in the dark, wearing an identity-hiding ski mask...

Actually, complaints should be handled through the moderators, not argued in the open forum.

If we were to see negative rep points handed out in large numbers, I think it likely that the system would be a candidate for removal. Most people here use the rep system to hand out kudos, not to throw spitballs.

And if we find someone is widely handing out negative rep to be spiteful, we will handle that as well.

Why not just make it a kudos system?

I'm not sure if that's possible without hacking vBulletin.

What's the difference between reputation and kudos?

without hacking vBulletin.
What's the problem with hacking vBulletin? Members do it all the time to add new features.

I think kudos is similar to karma, where you give a user a point and comment for something positive. There's no option for negative karma. That's just what I observed on another forum so it's probably wrong.

That would seem to solve the problem. Of course, people not behaving like schoolchildren would also solve the problem.

However, some of the members on the site are literally school children. ;)

And some of them are the mature ones :p

Moi? :)

Erm...yes... :rolleyes: :p

:eek: What are you implying? :p

Implying? Me? What would I imply?

That I'm a sexy man. ;)

lol well that certainly took it all off topic now didn't it :p

Simple fact is that we can't change what people have done and hopefully with this post they decide not to do it again.

We have to give people a chance to be a decent human being...and Banzai I got bad rep for the same thread as you. I laughed about it cause I thought it was hilarious to be honest.

But seriously we can't take the bad rep away, but we can get over it. I know that sounds harsh but it is fact.

......Off topic alright. Waay off topic.

Anyways, I think I got a bad rep once for having a go at someone that was constantly refferring to Torana's underwear. He said disgusting! I laugh whenever I see it and roll my eyes.

I second that... was definitely off topic... and disturbing :p

I think to be honest we just need to be vigilant against this sort of behaviour and teach our few immature members of the group that they're not going to be tolerated.

the suggestion to make it a kudos-only thing is a good one, imo... would give all a positive slant, leave the negative stuff for pms to sort out, as our mod notes it should be, anyway... so, what do you say, boss?... is there any good reason it can't be made a kudos-only option?

Because we've never needed one.

Remember this if someone is going to be spiteful and bare silly little grudges they will find another way.

The rep system has never been a problem until now. Before that is was in PMs my drift they will find away to ruin things.

What can we do?
Simple answer
There is this force to be reckoned with and We are the Super Moderators.

Myself
Cogito
Kit603
ILTBY
Sapphire.

Report things to us and we will act upon those reported things we always do. Those of you who know me know I will act and I will punish
Those of you who Know Cogito also Know this.
Kit603 has always been on hand to help she has always looked into complaints
Sapphire has worked here for sometime now
And ILTBY is here now and I can assure you she will also act.

The problem isn't the rep points it never was. Its the Spiteful Members we have. But remember we are here to prevent that. Unless you tell us we are not mind readers.

I would say the rep system should remain in place changing it is giving in to those that ruin it.

After all said and done we are a writing forum not a reputation giving forum.


Thanks
~Raven.
Senior Super Moderator

I would say the rep system should remain in place changing it is giving in to those that ruin it.

After all said and done we are a writing forum not a reputation giving forum.


I hate when people spew rhetoric like that.

We are not "giving in" to anyone, simply realizing the fact some people may do childish things and there is a very easy way of avoiding the issue completely. Besides, as it was previously mentioned, disputes should be settled with words; and differences in opinions need not carry any further weight than the words spoken. The points should be there to recognize members for achievements, to honor them. Perhaps a similar system could be used solely by admins for accumulating wins in our contests?

Moreover, we are a "reputation-giving forum". While this may not be a primary focus in any means, we do partake in the act. As such, I believe it fair game that it is looked at and improved to the best of our individual abilities.

adamant. zero-eight.

Then in that case the best thing if you beleive in that is post in suggestions or simply PM (Daniel) Lpspider. He welcomes all suggestions. I can't say fairer than that. ;)

What's the problem with hacking vBulletin? Members do it all the time to add new features.

I think kudos is similar to karma, where you give a user a point and comment for something positive. There's no option for negative karma. That's just what I observed on another forum so it's probably wrong.

karma is a feature of a different forum engine.

Hacking means someone has to do the programming, and it doesn't seem to be that huge a priority. We don't really have a problem, just the occasional annoyance.

I don't know for a fact whether programming would be necessary. I only indicated that it MIGHT be.

If it's easy to do, I'm all in favor of it. But if it's difficult, it's not worth it.

Seriously I don't see the big coffufal. We came here to write not give rep points. You can give me all the bad rep points in the world and I'd still come here and post. Why? Because as Hulls Raven has stated. "WE ARE A WRITING FORUM!" Simple as that.

As for kudos, I've seen them on a few sites now and they have been removed farily quickly. You can also give bad kudos as well. But I am sure that you are able to remove peoples options to use rep and/kudos individually. If you see someone abusing those things then just stop them from being able to use them in the future.

If you have problems with anything speak with one of the members of staff. It is the only way to get problems sorted out.

Hacking means someone has to do the programming, and it doesn't seem to be that huge a priority. We don't really have a problem, just the occasional annoyance.

I don't know for a fact whether programming would be necessary. I only indicated that it MIGHT be.

If it's easy to do, I'm all in favor of it. But if it's difficult, it's not worth it.
Well if it's for something as trivial as this then I don't see the point in wasting time doing the programming. In a perfect world, a kind person would've already offered this hack on the vBulletin forum. Oh well.

I would actually prefer the Reputation system remains as it is to be honest.

I have a question about the reputation points. Can I ask that here?

Go for it.

I have 28 reputation points. How did I get those? Is there one point for each time someone gives a reputation?

I'm not really sure what is meant by kudos...

I have 28 reputation points. How did I get those? Is there one point for each time someone gives a reputation?

I think the amount of points you receive when you get some rep changes according to the rep of the person giving it to you.

I see! Thanks :)

I have 28 reputation points. How did I get those? Is there one point for each time someone gives a reputation?


Each person has a different amount of points they give, the quantity is based upon the number of points they have. From what I've gathered, I assume it is your post rate divided by 100. So, if you have 28 points and only one person gave you a positive rep, that person has approximately 2,800 posts. I haven't been able to test if it rounds up yet.

That makes sense. Thanks!

Each person has a different amount of points they give, the quantity is based upon the number of points they have. From what I've gathered, I assume it is your post rate divided by 100. So, if you have 28 points and only one person gave you a positive rep, that person has approximately 2,800 posts. I haven't been able to test if it rounds up yet.

Erm... Sorry chocolate bear, but I don't think that's right.

I think everyone starts with 25 rep points, and the amount you can give does depend on post count, but not in the way you said. I'm fairly sure you can give one extra rep point for every 500 posts, and one extra rep point for every 100 rep points you have. I'm not sure where the rep-giving threshold is, but there must be one as new members can only give grey rep (worth zero points). Perhaps our imperious leader could enlighten us on this matter.

I'm not really sure what is meant by kudos...

Kudos are good. Another word for props. Or 'good job'

By kudos, they mean the same as the current system, but with only the positive aspects. I think...

Its good as it is, and Daniel hasn't decided other wise. The main thing is if you give neg rep don't do it on spite do it because you feel strongly and give a reason. Or we will act on the spiteful. I can't say fairer than that. Plus since posting this thread I have had no reports of Bad rep given recently.

Erm... Sorry chocolate bear, but I don't think that's right.

I think everyone starts with 25 rep points, and the amount you can give does depend on post count, but not in the way you said. I'm fairly sure you can give one extra rep point for every 500 posts, and one extra rep point for every 100 rep points you have. I'm not sure where the rep-giving threshold is, but there must be one as new members can only give grey rep (worth zero points). Perhaps our imperious leader could enlighten us on this matter.

I currently have 16 green, 1 red, and 1 grey totaling as 122 points - I believe your calculations are trumped.

When new members finally reach 100 posts, they can finally give rep. Let's try to find a newcomer to experiment on. :)

Would be interesting to find out how much Rep ppoints I give then.

You have 160 and can give .... check your pm box now ;)

Or we could be all good puppies and not retaliate when we are grumpy?

how many rep points do I give out?

lol thank you I did :D

Or we could be all good puppies and not retaliate when we are grumpy?

how many rep points do I give out?


I'm not looking at everyones. :p

O.O

You hate me, don't you?

There are a number of factors in how many rep points you give at a time. everyone starts at +20. Your donor ability depends on the number of posts you have and your own rep level, and I think there is another factor or two as well.

I am fairly new. I could test it and give someone a positive rep.

I don't see the problem with it all really, who actually pays much attention to their rep anyways?? And besdies which, it was put there for a bit of a laugh, not to become all serious and stuff. Chill peeps. :D

I think we have gone as far as we can without repeating ourselves.






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