Freedom of Opportunity vs Freedom vs Choice

By Oscar Leigh · Mar 20, 2016 · 663 · 3
  1. As a socialist, I want to explain why I think things like healthcare and education should be free, but things like business practice not so much. Why do we favour healthcare and education as socialist?
    Here a little thought. What hurts someone; the tool, or the action of using it? Well, the tool doesn't hurt anyone by itself, does it? It's the action. To apply this on a more philosophical, political scale it's the choice, not the opportunity. So what right is more hurtful by this logic, the choice to deny access in the name of business practice, or the opportunity to get heath-care and education? Health-care and education are universal human rights, literally, and they have no necessity to be controlled by businesses. Think about this; who is a business obligated to look after? Legally, officially, it is themselves. A CEO's or chairperson's responsibility for however much time he spends acting as that official is to their employees. Doesn't matter if they're a good person, they aren't a charity. A government is obligated to the people. Regardless of whether you trust them or like them or think they are good people, it is in their direct interest to do what is deemed good and stays good. So why do trust the caretaking of the entire populace's universal human rights to people who's interest is to their select group not the whole nation? You do realize private healthcare and education systems are universally less affordable than public ones? They will never give it out cheaply, they need to make a profit. But a government can take the costs as taxes, and give the cost back in how affordable (perhaps even free) the healthcare and education is. There's little question to me which one is right. I believe in freedom of opportunity because it is our choices that hurt people. And I believe that universal human rights should be a free opportunity maintained by those who we elect to represent us, not by those who rise to power on their own terms and interests.
    Thank you for your time. Hope you have a good day. :blowkiss::blowkiss:

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  1. BruceA
    HI was born in the uk. I benefited from free healthcare and education, and worked for 10 years in the uk National Health Service. I would also describe myself as a socialist. It makes me sad to see the free health and educuation services being gradually destroyed in the UK. A fairer society is a safer one for us all. Recent research (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/mar/14/nasa-civilisation-irreversible-collapse-study-scientists) showed that ancient societies collapsed when they became so unfair and unbalanced they were no longer sustainable
    BruceA, Mar 20, 2016
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  2. Oscar Leigh
    I'm Australian so I feel the same way.
    Oscar Leigh, Mar 20, 2016
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  3. Kinzvlle
    As an American I fully agree with this. The for profit healthcare system was never about the people. The ACA took steps to address this but that wasn't enough. Doesn't help that Socialist has been seen as a bad word here for a while. Bernie Sanders has brought it to the forefront with a good following but he still gets called a communist by the Republicans and to radical by his opponent. I even saw one guy on CNN spouting some bs about how Sanders trying to make us more like European countries was in contrast to American values. What vaules? The value that companys should make money off of someone's illness? The value that to get ahead in this country and to educate yourselve you must wallow In debt? The vaule that the government doesn't have a commitment to it's people? The value that taxes shouldn't go to help society?

    Ohh the taxes argument, the argument that socialist programs would increase taxes. Well yes they probably would, but I fail to see the problem. I mean I do, a lot of people don't make much as it is and the ideas of having to hand over even more money to the government bothers them especially when we don't always know for sure where that money's going. But we would know, it'd go to help society hell it'd help you. Higher taxes sure but those taxes would go into making sure that when you do get hurt that hospital fees don't leave you pennyless. To ensure that you're children are actually given a shot at getting a degree and a good job. I don't see how any price is to high for that, heck it saves you money in the long run.

    Sanders supporter's get accused of supporting him out of a desire for free shit but I support him out of common sense.
    Kinzvlle, Mar 20, 2016
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