Hero or Villain?

By Shadow Dragon · Jul 13, 2008 · ·
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  1. This is a question I've been asking myself a lot recently, in regards to the mc of my first novel, Ares Pyrrhus.

    Ok first off I'll give some background info on Ares. He's a demi-god. Demi-gods in my world (at least the ones that are half human and half god) can live around five hundred years. His mom is Raze, goddess of creation and destruction, and his father is Lonan, a disciple of the god of chaos. He raised an army and pretty much killed everything in his path. Its considered taboo to even say Lonan's name, so most people just call him the knight of chaos.

    One day Lonan lauched an attack against the small kingdom of Convallis. The king of Convallis hired a famous mercenary, Celerus. Both Celerus and Lonan intrigued Raze, so she decided to mate with who ever won the battle between them. However, they killed each other during the battle. So Raze decided to mate with both of them. A god mates with a mortal by taking a part of the mortals soul and mixing it with a part of their own soul. The union of her and Lonan created a baby boy named Ares, and the union of Raze and Celerus created a baby girl named Celes.

    She gave Ares to his grandparents to raise in a small village. Around the age of eight, the village was attacked by slavers and Ares'es grandparents were killed. He was taken as a slave. He was quickly sold to the leader of a crime syndicate. He served his master for three years. One day he killed his master. While escaping he came across a female half-elf slave that was a year younger than him. He had heard some of the members of the syndicate brag about raping a young half-elf and he figured that it was her. He convinced her to escape with him. He promises her that he'll protect her. Over time they fall in love (brother-sister kind of love, not boyfriend-girlfriend kind of love). They live in an abandoned house and steal whatever they need to survive.

    As they get into their late teens they become skilled with weapons and become assassins. During this time, Ares realized that he likes to kill people and enjoyes it when someone he hates fears him. After being an assassin for a few years he realizes how corrupt some of the goverments are so he decides that he'll destroy all of the nations and syndicates on the continent of Xen and rule it as its emperor.

    As for his appearance and mannerisms. Ares is five foot, nine inches tall. He has a very lean build. He has black hair that goes down to his shoulders and a tattoo of a dragon that goes around his left arm. He wears that black cloak that hides much of his appearance. Due to a family trait that he inherited from his father, his eyes are red with a slit pupil (similar to a cat). He is friendly and loyal to his friends. However he is cruel and merciless to his enemies. He is intelligent and can move at incredible speed. He is not very strong. He fights using two silver daggers and six black throwing knives.

    The case for him being a hero is that some of the people really are better off with him around. He starts to raise his army by killing slavers and freeing the slaves that they once owned. For the chance of creating a world without slavery and a world where their children and grandchildren could have a chance at happiness, the freed slaves give Ares there absolute loyalty. Some of them even sees Ares as a savoir. Also in some of the nations of Xen, only children from rich, land owning families can go to school. Ares creates public education. Also Ares belives that advancement in the military shouldn't be based off of what your last name is. Due to this, many soldiers from nations that he conquers joins him. He is also very loyal to his friends. So overall, society as a whole is better off under his leadership.

    The case for him being a villain is simple. He is incredible sadistic. He loves to torture, kill and create fear among his enemies. As an assassin he killed people that did nothing wrong other than pissing off the wrong person. He even has a couple of psychotic breakdowns during his life, where he just killes everything in sight. He believes that the strong will always rule over the weak. Also some of the nations that he goes to war with, had peaceful and happy people. These nations did nothing wrong other than being in the way of his ambition.

    So I'm not sure whether I should classify him as an anti-hero or as a noble villian.
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Comments

  1. Charisma
    He would be something of a selfish hero, though he's not exactly a villain in many ways nor is he an anti-hero - or is he? See, he does this because he likes it that way. He does what his psychotic mind deems right. So yeah, he's selfish, not selfless, something which negates a part of the heroism thing. Can't say what to call him though, now that I think of it he might be good as a noble villain. :p
  2. Shadow Dragon
    Yeah, I've always liked the title noble villian.
  3. Shizai Ko
    A good person with good intentions, but major character flaws. At first, It didn't sound like the same person. Then I realized how the "ends justifies the means" may play in the mentality of th MC. But still, what flaws develop because of his good intentions and which ones are because of his innate darker heritage. Maybe its his good intentions that drives him to reach into this darker, inherit nature. At first it was only to achieve the greater good, but the darker, freer nature gradual becomes enjoyable. Not that the darkness is changing him, but it was already a part of him. It just needed to bloom. When the goal of the "greater good" conflicts with the darker methods, the war begins in the mind. There wouldn't be a war in the mind if the darkness merely changed him.

    In short, I like your character.
  4. Shadow Dragon
    Thanks, I'm glad you like him. Your right, he believes that he has to use the darkness within himself to win his war against the nations of Xen. He doesn't think a purely good person could every hope to change things.
  5. BrinkofDawn
    You know, this story reminds me of Shakespeare's Macbeth a little, in that the protagonist is sort of the antagonist but only because he is fated to be.

    I don't think fate has a roll for Ares in this story, but I do think things are forced on him to make him believe the things he does or do the things he does. He lives and thrives in darkness to create a world he deems perfect because he doesn't necessarily agree with the way things are.

    If I were to classify him I'd say he's an anti-villain. His goals and ideals are all in good favor, but his methods aren't exactly the best way to go. Yeah some villains think this way but it's the depth of the character's personality that makes him the anti-villain like Kira from Death Note.

    I like it, and would actually like to read more.
  6. apothecaryrose
    That sounds like a very interesting character. I wouldn't really call him a hero or a villain. He seems pretty human. He's got his faults and his good tings. He has his reasons for doing things.

    I can't wait to read more about him.
  7. Shadow Dragon
    I'm glad you guys like my character.
  8. BellLily
    Hero and villain are just terms. Villains are usually people who are just evil to be evil. Heroes are the people (men usually) who are awesome with great super powers who fight the villains because its the right thing to do. You have, in my opinion, a protagonist.
    In terms though, I do see him leaning towards a villain than a hero. Hero makes me think of goody good, which I don't think is Ares.
  9. Teele
    Hm. All good points brought up. I wouldn't really give a conclusive answer on this one except to say this: Ares is extremely human. If he is a villain, he is no worse than any other: he does what he does because he believes it's the right thing. The bad in every villain comes from an inability or unwillingness to see that there are other means to the same end.

    The question of whether Ares is a hero or a villain is really a philosophical question. And, like most philosophical questions, there's not really a single perfectly correct answer. :D

    Ares is human, he has noble aims, but questionable methods, and herein is much potential for conflict. Good or bad, these are the kinds of characters I like. :) Good on ya, mate!
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