Spokesman for the Prince of Lies

By Cogito · Sep 8, 2010 · ·
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  1. Dr. Terry Jones of the Dove World Outreach Center has his fifteen minutes of fame this week. Perhaps that is why he is stubbornly sticking with his plan to ignite a fire on Saturday, September 11, 2010. He and his benighted followers intend to ignite a firestorm of hate, with copies of the Qur'an as kindling.

    According to the DWOC website, they are "... a New Testament Church – based on the Bible, the Word of God." But the lofty rhetoric notwithstanding, he seems to me to better represent the Prince of Lies. Since when is God's Word the voice of hatred, intolerance, and ignorance? He claims he is not killing anyone, he is only burning books, but surely he knows what he is attacking is the very faith of the people of Islam.

    I am no fan of any organized religion. Many of the world's worst atrocities have been committed in the name of religion. But the religion itself is not really at fault. It is those who twist those beliefs to justify mayhem and murder who are at fault - cowards like the 9-11 terrorists and the hooded assassins of the Klu Klux Klan. But the terrorists who hijacked airliners and used them as missiles against civilians no more represent Islam than the hooded lynch mobs of the KKK represent Christianity.

    As an American, I condemn the actions of Terry Jones. He does not represent America. He does not represent Christianity. He does not represent any moral high ground.

    He has more in common with Osama bin Laden, spurring hate through words, and inciting violence from a safe distance.

    Note: The above is my opinion, and does not represent any official position of the site or its owner.
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  1. Lydia
    I must say I find what he's planning to do utterly ridiculous. I am a Christian, but what he's doing has nothing to do with Christianity. Burning books is useless and will do nothing but offend those that to who it's sacred. With every religion there are people who exaggerate- who think they need to burn and kill for their faith. As you said, he is one of those people and has more in common with Osama bin Laden- helping to make people even more revolted of religion.
  2. Wreybies
    What I think is most painful, when one goes to the root of any religion, is that there is really little difference in what is professed by the person/persons who begin said religion. I have seen it written, though I cannot remember where, that one must either accept Jesus as the Son of God or else a madman. That to think of him only as a just person gifted with an insight greater than that of the average Joe is to belittle the idea of God and to make a mockery of what has been laid down in the religion that follows that God. In short, he is either a divine being or a looney and anything else is categorized as offensive.

    I have to wonder if he would have thought the same. I have to wonder if it would have mattered to him whether or not one thought of him as the actual Divine Son of God, or if you simply listened and took in what he had to say and gave it thought and perhaps a little use.

    I am left to wonder what all the great thinkers of the world feel as to what is done with their words and in their name. I am not a Christian. I am not a person of any faith, but I read the words of Christ and I have difficulty finding issue with his ideology. There is nothing that he said, or was professed to have said, that lies contrary with what I think of as being a good person and loving my fellow human. In fact, I think those are his very words.

    To have someone in this day and age take the words of someone who meant well and meant to bring words of love to others, and watch those words and that intent twisted and corrupted and prostituted in the name of engendering hate, small-mindedness, and an inability to see the good and the value in our fellow human beings is a truly sickening thing.

    Right now, at this very moment, somewhere in the world there is a woman of Muslim faith bringing food to her children as they do their homework and laughing with them and helping them with their math and being everything that a good mother should be. To know that this act is aimed at her and her faith fills me with shame.
  3. Dante Dases
    It's behaviour like this that perpetuates terrorism. Intolerance and displays of hatred like this leave festering wounds in racial and cultural relations that leave the door open for terrorists to enter. And the worst thing is that people on 'the other side' as it were, are more likely to support them because of idiots like this.
  4. Capt Bob
    Strange how Gods word was interpreted, translated and set in "stone" by his different "Devotees" in different parts of this Earth. Suspiciously like the hand of man was allowed to interject a few of his own, personal, favorite mandates.

    Aside from that, there is little purpose in protesting the shortcomings of the Fools you disagree with by emulating them!. This only serves to place you in the same category.
  5. white
    I don't agree with what Terry Jones plans to do, but I support his right to do it. What I find most troubling is that there are people in the U.S., like Hillary Clinton, who have asked the media not to report on it, saying it would be the "patriotic" thing to do.
  6. Cogito
    I agree with the request for the media not to televise the burning. The images of the Qur'an being burned would have been a rallying point for fomenting more hatred of Americans. However, if the burning were to take place, someone would surely have photographed and distributed images of that burning, even if the major media outlets refuesd to photograph it.

    At this point, there is room for optimism. After receiving a call from the Secretary of Defense, Terry Jones has announced he will not go ahead with the bonfire. However, he has implied that that decision was coupled with a promise that the mosque in New York City would not be built next to Ground Zero. It's doubtful that any such promise was made, but if it were, that too would be disgraceful, amounting to political extortion.

    EDIT: And now, Terry Jones has flip-flopped again, and the book burning is back on his schedule. Apparently, he is attempting to use it as leverage to force the plans to build a mosque overlooking Ground Zero to be cancelled. I am thoroughly disgusted.
  7. Speedy
    Farking attention seeking whore that he is.

    He'll use this misguided fame for as long as he can now, you watch.

    i usually don't give a flying monkey nut what people do, as long as it only effects them. But this is just going to create a whole new barrel of turd. The longer this gets media coverage, the eorse it'll get. its already getting enough media coverage here, that its been on at least a dozen difference programs. And i'm sure i lot of the world media (The scum ones0 are killing to break the chains again.

    As if deep down in the black soul of his, that his not trying the boil things up again. He'd had to be pretty downright pathetic to not figure out what his doing here. (Not just burning a symbol).

    I'm sure this'll end up with some strange twist, or astray bullet. The world and it's religion is no game for one small person to play with.
  8. art
    The guy is clearly a clown. It would be a crass stunt.

    Many years ago I owned a copy of Mein Kampf. I read maybe a score or so pages and left it on the shelf. After a while I became unsettled by its presence and, in a dramatic flourish, burnt the thing. Nobody else was about. A private affair.

    I will say, I am slightly unsettled too by my copy of the Koran. And by my copy of the Old testamant. In truth, many holy books do not need too much twisting to suit the purposes of barbarous zealots.

    Not sure where that gets us.
  9. baarf
    How are Bible burning incidents treated by the media?
    How are they treated by Imams?
    Hey it's a religion of peace, so we don't have to worry about any violent reaction...........
  10. Zombie_Chinchilla
    I think I heard on the news a few days ago that Jones said he's not going to burn the Qur'an- "not now, not ever."

    I can't remember his reason, though. :p
  11. Mallory
    I live in the city where this whole thing took place. It was a big deal. People who lived near the church were concerned about their own safety.
  12. Ollpheist
    As a man of faith, I completely, wholeheartedly, and absolutely agree with you, and you understand what SO MANY who call themselves my "Brethren" do not understand.
  13. digitig
    Wreybies: I think your comment that "I have seen it written, though I cannot remember where, that one must either accept Jesus as the Son of God or else a madman" relates to an argument most famously put forward by C S Lewis, that Jesus must have been "mad, bad, or God". This is now widely used on philosophy courses as an extension of the false dichotomy fallacy to three or more options. One can, of course, be mistaken without being mad, bad, or God.
  14. cruciFICTION
    Yeah, well, all I can say is that we all know who flooded the world and killed more people than the other did.
  15. story_teller
    As a New Zealander that lives in Australia well away from your national media (unless we seek it out) I can understand and sympathise with your position. It's a shame when you are torn between your pride in your nation and local community and a political representative who stands up and and suggests he is representing a community, or community action you don't necessarily believe in or want to stand up for. Any reasonable person should be able to see that you or anyone else who might disagree with how one man is choosing to represent them as a community, doesn't mean you/they are adding too or encouraging religious debate, terrorist activity or religious and political division in the community. The best you can do if he wants to burn it on television is to not watch that channel, and not be offended. I am not religious but I know the difference between right and wrong, my parents taught me that as a child and had to remind me a few times again during my teens. We all know how to keep our chins high, lets see how high Dr Terry Jones holds his chin when he is old and alone?
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