What's with these reviews?!

By Link the Writer · Nov 2, 2010 · ·
  1. I just watched an old movie from 1995 called Operation: Dumbo Drop which was a Disney movie based on a real life event in the Vietnam War.

    Basically, some American soldiers are assigned the task of sending an elephant over to a village in time for their ceremony.

    The reviews just shocked me. Half of them were discussing the physics of dropping the elephant off of a plane strapped to a parachute, others were saying how it was appalling in its light poking in the horror that was the Vietnam War.

    Do these people not understand a comedy when they see it? Are they so uptight that they get offended by every single thing ever?

    There were at least two TV series made in the 1960s that were satirical comedy about two wars. Hogan’s’ Heroespoked fun at World War II, and M*A*S*H poked fun at the Korean War. Yet no one complained about those two like they do here.

    And guess what? Both WWII and the Korean War were terrible. All wars are terrible.

    If they wanted a true-to-life, gritty, realistic depiction of a war, then they should’ve looked elsewhere. This movie, like the TV series I mentioned, just plays lightly with the wars they are set in.

    I swear, people just love to get their feelings hurt at everything. It wasn’t like the movie was going “Oh look! Innocent people are getting hurt in the crossfire! HA! HA! HA! Too funny!!!” It was about a group of guys delivering an elephant across Vietnam. The plot was the elephant, not the war.

    Movies like this are a well-deserved break from the many, many war movies that are nothing but the realism of war.

    Know what? Someone ought to make a comedy movie set in the Civil War in 1863. A small band of five Union soldiers makes a promise to a dying man that they’d get his wife and little girl to safety. Problem is, they’re in Georgia. Safety that the man speaks of is Massachusetts. The soldiers must brave the elements, themselves and other Confederate soldiers as they accomplish this feat. The title?

    Race to Massachusetts

    It’s a comedy, not meant to be taken seriously. I can already here them whining now.

    “This movie makes the appalling judgment to bring comedy to a terrible war.”

    “Once again, we have a war movie where the Americans are the big damned heroes.”

    “So how are these guys not being put thorough military court for desertion and potentially being marked as traitors for helping this family of a Confederate soldier?”*

    Hey, it’s comedy. It’s not supposed to be taken seriously.

    * I may have to look into that one, though...

Comments

  1. Taylee91
    ^Hey, that sounds like a pretty good premise for a movie. I'm serious. Anything that involves Mass is worth looking into. Plus - a band of comrades staking their lives for two other lives? Awesome!

    Ditto your opinions. Some reviewers need to chill and look into the underlying themes of things. It's not what happened, but what it's all about. I think more people these days need to stop being such pains in the asses and being so politically correct, and stand up for something. Not tear things down.

    ^Heh, heh. That's my opinion :D


    ^The above has been censored and is not my current opinion. I approve of this edit.
  2. Pallas
    I disagree, I think reviewers and particularly movie critics impart a depth of insight and analysis that a common man cannot do himself; who would not heed the acumen of such learned people?

    Dumb Drop featured Danny Glover right? I think so, it was definitely a good film though.
  3. Taylee91
    ^I'm sorry, I was wrong. Reviewers, as you've said, do have a more knowledgeable sense of insight. They've had years of experience in their fields and would most likely have more insight than opposed to a person who didn't know a thing about stories, movies, their structure etc.

    The people I was referring to would be the common man, as you said. Some who just like to point out the bad things in such forms of media or the common people who belong to animal protection associations and bring up problems by accusing the film makers of animal abuse.

    Lesson learned here. I was being one "common man" and jumped on the band wagon. I didn't think to read back on my post. I was being ignorant.

    So reiterating my post in a different perspective: IT'S JUST A MOVIE PEOPLE! Can you really be that anal? As long as it wasn't poking jokes at the Vietnam War and no animals were harmed in the making of the film - it should be acceptable. Besides, it was a comedy.

    ^So -- that is my opinion. Reiterated and censored.
  4. Speedy
    Always stayed away from this movie. Figured it was a pile of elephnat poo.

    Reviews are always different. it also depends where you are reading your review from. If its on the back of the TV guide, i generally only read them for laughs.
  5. cmcpress
    Nothing is ever JUST a movie.

    I haven't seen it so i can't comment about it - it all depends on the way it's done.

    But in princple - a comedy movie set in the Vietnam war that isn't about the Vietnam war? I imagine to be like an American comedy set in Abu Graib without mention of torture. Those crazy infidels Feat Ben Stiller - ben stiller has to derp de derp de derp de derp with electrodes on his testicles.

    When you make war into a light comedy it's an attempt to gloss over its horror. I'm interested to know if you could make a light comedy about 9/11 for example*

    There's a lot of talk about political correctness and how negative it all is - censorship can be incredibly dangerous - but in light of films like "A Serbian Film" (which is in itself an allegory for the Serbian war - albeit one Bloody Disgusting likened to "having his soul raped") it's becoming increasingly less valid because human beings seem unable to censor themselves..


    *Chris Morris already made a light comedy about inept terrorists - Four Lions.. But how about one that shows the terrorists as cool wisecracking role models undergoing a de derp de derp to find C4 to blow up the plane - with HI-larious consequences.
  6. cmcpress
    Nothing is ever JUST a movie.

    I haven't seen it so i can't comment about it - it all depends on the way it's done.

    Catch 22, M*A*S*H et al are about the absurdity of war and the Pathos of the characters that make the comedy work.

    A comedy movie set in the Vietnam war that isn't about the Vietnam war? I imagine to be like an American comedy set in Abu Graib without mention of torture. Those crazy infidels Feat Ben Stiller - ben stiller has to derp de derp de derp de derp with electrodes on his testicles.

    When you make war into a light comedy it's an attempt to gloss over its horror. I'm interested to know if you could make a light comedy about 9/11 for example*

    There's a lot of talk about political correctness and how negative it all is - censorship can be incredibly negative - but in light of films like "A Serbian Film" (which is in itself an allegory for the Serbian war - albeit one Bloody Disgusting likened to "having his soul raped") it's becoming increasingly less valid because human beings seem unable to censor themselves..

    *Chris Morris already made a light comedy about inept terrorists - Four Lions.. But how about one that shows the terrorists as cool wisecracking role models undergoing a de derp de derp to find C4 to blow up the plane - with HI-larious consequences.
  7. cmcpress
    Nothing is ever JUST a movie.

    I haven't seen it so i can't comment about it - it all depends on the way it's done.

    A comedy movie set in the Vietnam war that isn't about the Vietnam war? I imagine to be like an American comedy set in Abu Graib without mention of torture. Those crazy infidels Feat Ben Stiller - ben stiller has to derp de derp de derp de derp with electrodes on his testicles.

    When you make war into a light comedy it's an attempt to gloss over its horror. I'm interested to know if you could make a light comedy about 9/11 for example*

    There's a lot of talk about political correctness and how negative it all is - censorship can be incredibly negative - but in light of films like "A Serbian Film" (which is in itself an allegory for the Serbian war - albeit one Bloody Disgusting likened to "having his soul raped") it's becoming increasingly less valid because human beings seem unable to censor themselves..

    *Chris Morris already made a light comedy about inept terrorists - Four Lions.. But how about one that shows the terrorists as cool wisecracking role models undergoing a de derp de derp to find C4 to blow up the plane - with HI-larious consequences.
  8. Pallas
    I was really being facetious with my post, everything needs a grain of salt as it were, even with reviews or in fact any form of critical rhetoric. I guess my underlying sarcasm was more visible in my head, haha. What happened to the Ebert tv reviews, I always enjoyed his banter reviews with Siskel and Roeper.
  9. Link the Writer
    I guess stuff like this has to be taken with single grains of salt. It's very easy to accidentally make something like Hogan's Heroes be offensive simply because of the setting.

    I mean, Hogan's Heroes is a comedy set in a Nazi POW camp during World War II. There was nothing nice nor funny about being a Nazi POW (or a POW of anything, really). The humor wasn't about life as a POW, it was Hogan and gang sabatoging the Nazi war effort and tricking the inept Nazis over and over again.
  10. cmcpress
    Sure - WWII was a little more clearcut than the Vietnam war. For example the Vietnamese weren't blindfolding their POW's with razor wire and chucking them out of helicopters for fun.

    The whole dynamic of Hogans Heroes works because they're the underdogs. Sadly in Vietnam, the Americans were the big bad invaders.

    Oh yeah from Roger Ebert:

    "I am not asking that "Operation Dumbo Drop" be hard-edged realism. It's not that kind of movie. I'm not even very bothered by the scene where the elephant's chute doesn't open, and Liotta goes into free-fall to save it. (No, he doesn't grab the elephant and open his own chute so they can ride down together.) What bothers me is that a chapter of our history is being rewritten and trivialized, as we win in the movie theaters a war that did not, in fact, turn out very well for us."
    —Roger Ebert, writing in the Chicago Sun-Times[9]

    Interestingly comparing this with "Good Morning Vietnam" which is a good comedy set in the Vietnam war - but which shows the vietnamese with pathos - is much more in line with Hogans Heroes / M*A*S*H* / Catch-22 - ie war is absurd, sympathy for the underdogs etc..
  11. cmcpress
    Oh yeah from Roger Ebert:

    "I am not asking that "Operation Dumbo Drop" be hard-edged realism. It's not that kind of movie. I'm not even very bothered by the scene where the elephant's chute doesn't open, and Liotta goes into free-fall to save it. (No, he doesn't grab the elephant and open his own chute so they can ride down together.) What bothers me is that a chapter of our history is being rewritten and trivialized, as we win in the movie theaters a war that did not, in fact, turn out very well for us."
    —Roger Ebert, writing in the Chicago Sun-Times[9]
  12. Link the Writer
    Hmmm...

    You make a good point.
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