Why I do not Believe In God

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    indignor quandoque bonus dormitat Homerus...

    Horace

    I

    I spent less than half of my life as a Roman Catholic, and while I look back on those years, I can only do so from an admittedly biased point of view. The whole experience was not terribly unpleasant, I rather miss some of the artwork and the sense of community. Some of the priests were very well educated, and charming, and friendly; I even still remember (and miss) some of the hymns.

    While I regret that I cannot relive those years, I am not so much sure that I would like to now, with the experiences that I have today I cannot go back and re-convert as it were, it is too late. There is perhaps at least some small compensation in the fact that by my formally abandoning religion it was one of the most singularly liberating and enjoyable experiences of my life, and while I was once a hypocritical follower of a system I fundamentally did not believe in I am now no longer under such...persuasions.

    Most of my education was spent attending private Catholic schools (grades second to twelve), I was to later find out that the main reason behind the decision to send me to parochial school was not for reasons of religious observation but because they were thought to be superior to the public schools in the area in which we were residing (in that regard I agree wholeheartedly and feel very privileged for the opportunity). By that time of course I was far from devout, and just about everyone around me seemed to regard all of religiosity with the same air of suspicion, or at least a dull and almost stoic lack of enthusiasm (which was by High School of course, teenagers are rebellious by nature).

    That realization was accompanied, in my adolescence, by a number of epiphanies; some small and some significantly large. These realizations shattered my faith or as I prefer to think of it, my nearly lifelong pedagogical indoctrination) and ultimately lead to my abandonment of adherence not only to Roman Catholicism, but any organized religion and indeed any notion of any god. The epiphanies and resulting deductions lead me to assume skeptical standpoints of most matters, including the occult, pseudosciences, and UFO-ology among other things. As some would say, I can be open-minded, but not so open-minded that my brain should fall out of my head.

    In that sense I am no more biased against religion and God than I am to the Sasquatch, the Yeti, and the Abominable snowman, although I can agree that those are two arguments of a slightly different nature, in the case of Bigfoot most claimants at least display hoaky evidence, most people of faith resign their beliefs to faith and not evidence. I regard them all as somewhat charming, often entertaining, but approach them all with what I believe to be a very well warranted sense of cautious skepticism. As Carl Sagan was fond of saying, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

    With that lengthy background and introduction behind me I can address the topic mentioned in the title. As you can imagine; when it comes up, or it is determined, or when I freely admit that I am an atheist a number of things might occur. In a group it may acquire a queer look or two, or an approving nod or grunt, but far too often I'm afraid, there is also a kind of gasp and physical withdrawal, usually accompanied with a frown or a shake of the head, as if I had just admitted to being the son of Satan himself.

    I can attribute this apprehension primarily to misinformation (sometimes deliberately circulated, such sophistry in my opinion qualifies as defamatory hate speech, in this case a discriminatory targetting of atheists by theists) of the atheist position or misconceptions of what being an atheist means.

    As a definition, it can vary from person to person and dictionary to dictionary, however among the more progressive of descriptions I agree wholeheartedly with and now use for myself: "someone who lacks a belief in a god or gods". Rather than attempting to describe atheism as a belief or a philosophy I belief that it is prudent and intellectually honest to instead treat it as an absence of a very particular kind of belief.

    As far as viewpoints go it is hardly a controversial issue, although some people treat it as such. In the long history of debatable topics and philosophies I can certainly think of things much more divisive and controversial. There is, I suspect, a very long list of grievances and offenses that most people would find highly objectionable to say the least, and to me atheism does not and should not belong among them.

    For one, no atheist has ever advocated setting themselves on fire for an atheist based anti-war demonstration, nor do we promote corporal mortification to simulate the pain felt by Isaac Newton when an apple fell on his head. We generally do not advocate the mutilation of an infant's genitalia, or the trial, torture, and murder of unbelievers in the laws of gravity. However, I digress.

    Much of the misconceptions arrive from the erroneous perception that atheists are godless sinning heathens, hedonists, lustful malcontents intent on perverting societies and overthrowing religions. While there are, to be sure, some atheists who are very much against religion, outspoken in that respect, and opposed to all organized religions (I was once among them), that is not a valid representation of all atheists.

    In the same sense that not all religious people are zealots and extremists, the average atheist is probably not only non-militant in their lack of belief but reserved for fear of persecution (most Americans when polled freely admit that they would not vote for a presidential candidate who happened to be an atheist - for a secular nation where church and state is separated by law that is a stunning revelation).

    Interestingly, atheists are the fastest growing minority in the United States, ahead of Jews and homosexuals, and at around 10%, close to African-Americans. Far from a fringe group we total more people than the populations of dozens of European countries, and in the case of the smallest among them, more than their total populations combined.

    Whenever my dirty secret is revealed, usually in groups of three or more where I have taken the position of defending the atheist position ( I half-jokingly say with my back against the wall) the others often either because of the peer pressure of the cultural norm or curiosity probe my intents and rationale, a number of questions come up. They all dig down at the matter of why I do not belief in a god, but they often can and do take different approaches.

    As a method of critically analyzing a topic that is an area of debate as old as civilization itself, and one of the gravest of imports to many people of all proclivities, I assume the apologetic standpoint and use Socratic questioning to soften up the blows of the questions.

    I prefer, whenever possible, to address the questions one by one because there are actually many clarifications that need to be made and many misconceptions to address along the way. The many layered onion of theist conceits (not used as a pejorative in this context I assure you, conceit is simply a word to denote a hardened position in this usage) go to the heart of modern culture.

    Among the most persistent of these misconceptions is the idea that without a God there can be no morality and no reason to do good. I always find that as ironic because some of the greatest moral and ethical teachers, champions of the very idea of human goodness itself, made their cases for secular reasons and in the absence of a requirement for a belief in a god (but we shall cross that bridge when we come to it).

Comments

  1. jonathan hernandez13
    II

    An example of a typical dialogue that may occur between a theist and an atheist:

    Polemikos
    : (Polemic or contrarian position, usually associated with the atheist side, in this case I'm labeling the believers as polemicists as a thought experiment) Why do you not believe in god?

    Apologia: (apologists were typically Christian defenders of their faith in the first century, in this case I'm referring to the atheist side as an apologetic position because it is in the twenty first century, ironically, that this position is now under much scrutiny and criticism)

    Which god? There are many gods and goddesses that I do not believe in, actually I do not believe in any of them! Please specify which god that it is in specific that you are referring to when you ask me my specific reasons for not believing in him/her/it specifically (some oppositions are particular to a particular god in question, but the guts of the arguments are essentially the same).

    Please understand that this is not meant to be a coy diversion, it is a valid question (in Hinduism for example there are over a million deities, and most mainstream Hindus understandably don't believe in all of them, and very understandably so, for one there are too many to keep track of!)

    The question of whether or not I believe in Kali is not a common question in this country but may be pertinent in India), and in the tradition of Socratic questioning, its intention is to generate critical thinking on either side, usually with the practical upshot of both sides learning something new as a result.

    Polemikos: The Christian god naturally, as an American we can agree that the primary religion of this nation, indeed this hemisphere, is Christianity.

    Apologia: Agreed. Why do you believe in a Christian god?

    Polemikos: I believe in God/Jesus Christ because there is a tradition of faith, which makes claims that I support and adhere to; handed down through the missionaries, the testimonials of the authors of the gospels, and the prophets and authors of the Bible. Furthermore I have either communicated directly with him or know someone who has. Or, I have seen proof of his existence either through a miracle or have been informed of his miracles.

    Apologia: Ah, I do not believe those claims based on either objections to those criteria as a valid basis for a belief or logical assumption.

    And from there I go on to list my ojections. I have in some cases very detailed counterarguments, and in some cases merely personal qualms. With repect to the rationale given by the example Polemicist, this is a summarized response:

    Apologia: Even if there is a long tradition of faith and large numbers of believers in God it does not logically follow that they are all correct.

    If my faith were diretly impacted by the claims written in the Bible one should hope that there is as little equivocation as possible, that the texts are consistent and accurate.

    And yet upon reading the Bible and review I have discovered inconsistensies, errors, contradictions, forgeries, ommissions, additions, and the like. These complications make me question the authority of the scripture as well as the claims in them.

    Even if the text was correct in all respects the eyewitness testimony of someone living millenia in the past cannot be supported today with any kind of demonstrable evidence. There is no known method of testing the miraculous claims of the Bible, and even if miracles occured, it is not reasonable to assume that simply because miracles occured that Jesus was either the son of God or God himself.

    In the Bible Moses, Elijah, and John the Baptist all performed miracles. To be fair, none claimed to be God, but upon review of the new testament Jesus does not explicitly refer to himself as God in all of the Gospels. He is consistently claimed to be the son of God, and on top of the fact that that claim cannot be verified with a paternity test is a quite different distinction than being God himself.

    I have never communicated with God, therefore I am absent of such an experience. In the same way that you cannot demonstrate to me that you haven spoken with him, I cannot prove that you have or have not. Nevertheless, the claim is not convincing enough as proof in God. Personal proof for your point of view cannot be demonstrated to me and is therefore merely an unsuppoted claim.

    Likewise if someone else speaks with God, it is a personal revelation for them but absolutely irrelevant to me or anyone else. It cannot be demonstrated to anyone else, unless something that only a god could know were revealed (and while such claims abound in the Bible, again, those past claims are utterly irrelevant in the present).

    The notion of miracles are not convincing either for similar reasosn. A miracle that presents itself to a person in private is a personal miracle only, and while there are also some miracles that are claimed worldwide and among large groups of people, miracles tend to have alternative explanations and none have proven definitively any claims made in the Bible.

    A crying statue of a virgin Mary, while extraordinary, does not mean that Jesus was God; in logical lingua that is known as a non sequitor. It is perhaps shocking and slightly upsetting that when someone who has a near death experience or is successfully revived in a hospital they are often eager to thank God but the idea never occurs to them to pray to the EMT technicians and doctors that fought to keep them alive.
  2. ChimmyBear
    Very informative, Jon. Thank you for sharing a very personal side of yourself, and taking the effort to explain it.

    I have a new found respect for you as a person and a friend.
  3. losthawken
    Very interesting Jon, thanks for posting this. I find it rather ironic that as a Christian I feel exactly the same fear of judgment you do about divulging my beliefs among my friends and co-workers. Maybe we should swap social circles :)

    I see your arguments as pretty much all valid, and they have given me a good amount to think about as far as defending and promoting my faith. Obviously, I think there's more to it but I'll try to get that onto my own blog here eventually ;)

    Still respectfully Your Friend,

    ~JG
  4. Mercurial
    I really appreciate you writing and posting this, Jon. I am likeminded and everything you've written is similar to experiences I too have had (I also grew up in a strict Roman Catholic home and also left the Church after confirmation), but you said it much more articulately, politely, and informatively than I ever could.

    I dont believe in any god, but I do believe that many religious texts are very important to our society, they've shaped the way we view and treat the world. Without books like the Bible, the Torah, the Qua'ran (sp) and other teachings, I wonder what paths we would have taken. Perhaps we would have taken better ones, perhaps we would have taken much more destructive ones. For this reason, I respect religion and those who believe in a god or gods... and I definitely respect the teachings... but I see them as only teachings, directions on how to live.

    I also appreciate you posting this because I learned quite a bit as well. I didnt know atheism was one of the fastest growing minorities in the United States. With all of our religious ideology so closely tied to our government (it's in our pledge, it's in our politics, it's on our money which could effectively be another god we worship), I wouldnt have realized that. Maybe it's because the city I still live in is 80% Roman Catholic.

    I would love to hear more thoughts on this subject from you. :)
  5. Agreen
    I guess I'm repeating what everyone's already said, but I enjoyed reading this- I love reading the thoughts of an intelligent skeptic who's taken the time to read up on religion.

    In spite- or perhaps because of- the fact that I've never really believed, religion has always been one of my main interests. I especially liked your mention of religious art- much of which I find simultaneously fascinating and beautiful. Reading your dialogue, I can't help but think that even though his reaches a different conclusion, you might enjoy Petrarch's Secret.
  6. jonathan hernandez13
    III

    Red Herring(see also Wild Goose chase, Smokecsreen) : A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form:

    Polemikos: If you do not believe in God, then where you you derive your morality from?

    When it comes to the topic or issue of God, at some point, the contention may come up that without God and religion there can be no morality. Of course, that is incorrect (and I shall explain why, and no that is not an opinion, it is a valid point that can easily be demonstarted)

    Apologia: Even if that were the case, which it is not, the issue of morality bears absolutely no significance on the issue of whether there is or is not a God. One could make the claim that there can be no morality without God, and that because there is morality there must be a God. That would be a better question than the one that I gave as an example, but it is still a presupposition and a categorical error.

    A reason for a person to behave in what could be called a moral fashion, even in the absence of a God, can easily be demonstrated by imagining a small community. If this small community had individuals that cooperate and respect the rights of others, particularly their rights to life and property, the community is likely to prosper.

    However if there was one individual who was a deviant and displayed a wreckless behavior towards the wishes of others, the community would more than likely decide to punish them. The same goes for a small community with a small gang of deviants, and if the majority of the community was full of misfits then it would eventually destroy itself, because a chaotic society is anathema to any culture.

    This has lead to laws, and perhaps the idea of gods and religion. A major deterrent against crime is the punishemnt under law, or the punishment of God, particularly in the afterlife. However, unlike in the case of laws which are earthly and immediate, the punishment from a God may never come or one may have to wait until the transgressor is dead before they get their final licks.

    Not surprisingly philosophy of ethics can and does have an explanation for this beavior, such as the Principle of enlightened self inteerst. It is not difficult to see how a group of individuals working cooperatively while sacrificing some of their own desires, can accomplish more together than by themselves.

    There have been moral teachers long before the advent of Christ who have suggested things such as the Golden Rule, among others (found in the writings of the Egyptians during the Middle Kingdom c.2000 BC, among Greeks - Pittacus c.500 BC, and so on).

    There have even been some great moral teachers associated with religions (Chinese - Confucius, c.500 BC / India - Siddhārtha Gautama, c.500 BC) that do not require a belief in any god and yet they place a great deal of emphasis upon teachings of compassion and tolerance.

    Interestingly, if it were the case that people who lacked a belief in God were somehow less inherently moral than those who did, the statistics certainly do not reflect it.

    "In **1997**, the Federal Bureau of Prisons released the professed religious adherence rate of those in the U.S. Federal Prison system.

    Christians make up about 80% of the American population AND prison population.

    However, Atheists make up about 8% of the American population but only 0.2% of the prison population."


    http://askville.amazon.com/Religion-prison-populations-Atheists-ethical-Christians-Muslims/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=8384184

    There is no so thing as an absolute or objective morality. One could say that there is, and that God is the furnisher of that absolute moral authority, and yet throughout all of history we can see examples of things which we in the present would find highly objectionable or even morally repugnant. The ancient Greeks practiced pederasty, ancient Phoenicians and Aztecs practiced human sacrifice. The ancient Israelites, if the Bible was correct, would stone people to death for being a homosexual or working on the Sabbath. I would dare say that I am morally superior to the authors of the Bible, and probably anyone of that era. And that is specifically because the moral zeitgeist has been improvong over the millenia, and we have learned a great deal more about what it means to be moral than the people of then. That is why most societies now find slavery highly objectionable while both testaments of the Bible seem to support it. Societies mutually agree upon what is right or wrong, in the same way that we collectively either make the laws or elect officials who determine them for us, based on what the previous laws prescribe.
  7. jonathan hernandez13
    IV


    Polemikos: You will find God if you look for him and if you truly believe.

    Apologia: I often hear this claim from theists, but the majority of them seem to be unaware or unwilling to acknowledge that many atheists were once themselves theists. What makes anyone assume that I have not once asked God for a sign or sought him out?

    For every theist who claims to have found God there is an atheist who has not, or a believer who still has doubts. When the theists ask us to be open to God it is a case of special pleading, they are asking us to suspend the disbelief we all have and abandon rational thoughts for irrational ones.

    They claim to believe in an all-powerful eternal being, what we ask for is not so unreasonable: evidence.

    To address the example claim of the Polemic more bluntly, I will not find God no matter how much I believe, I know not because I think so but because I have already tested that hypothesis. In the natural world things do not reveal themselves or become more real depending on the faith of its devotees. Gravity exists regardless of whether or not we believe in it.

    Special pleading is a form of spurious argumentation where a position in a dispute introduces favorable details or excludes unfavorable details by alleging a need to apply additional considerations without proper criticism of these considerations themselves. Essentially, this involves someone attempting to cite something as an exemption to a generally accepted rule, principle, etc. without justifying the exemption
  8. jonathan hernandez13
    V - A

    Concerning the issue of Intelligent Design

    "Upon the whole; after all the schemes and struggles of a reluctant philosophy, the necessary resort is to a Deity. The marks of design are too strong to be gotten over. Design must have had a designer. That designer must have been a person. That person is GOD."
    — William Paley, Natural Theology (Ch. XXIII, Pg. 441)


    One of the most common and persistent claims of the Christian apologetics (Polemics for the purposes of this discourse), is that there are many aspects of the universe that seem well designed and well ordered.

    This is not by any means a recent claim, people have been claiming this for centuries at least and more than likely millennia. One well known version of this argument from design argument is the watchmaker argument. It suggests that if things in the natural world show signs of being designed, it suggests a designer.

    As we shall see this is a logically flawed assumption, based on certain presuppositions (among other things is presupposes that a creator designed all things presumably for some kind of purpose - something that cannot be verified, and therefore the entire claim or argument is based on an untestable notion).

    Counter-arguments to these claims remind the claimants that the definition of design is completely subjective. Does one define design by complexity? Beauty? When one sits down to define what seems to be intelligent design one often can find that there are natural means that can explain seeming order, in the case of biological order, the natural explanation is evolution, and yet despite the vast amount of evidence and research supporting it, it remains questioned and challenged by a fair percentage of the American public ( the majority of which belonging to some form of organized religion favoring literal interpretations of the Bible and notions that the Earth is radically younger than commonly accepted by most of the world's population).

    Even if it could be inferred logically that aspects of the universe imply intelligent design, and that there is an intelligent designer, that still says nothing about the nature of the designer. We could then ascertain that the designer is intelligent, but what else? Would there be any point in worshipping such a creature even if it could be shown to exists through its creations?

    Unless there was some sort of direct or indirect link with the creature in the form of some sort of communication, no one can claim to know what it desires any more than anyone else unless one had access to knowledge that others lacked (a role that Biblical prophets claimed exclusive excellence at).

    Assuming that there was an intelligent designer, and that it created all things both seen and unseen, from the macro scale of the cosmos to the micro scale of cellular life, a kind of counter-argument could be made against intelligent life by analyzing all the things that seemed to be poorly designed and pointing them out. Hence, we could very easily claim that if there was a designer, that it is either unintelligent and a very sloppy maker or at least inordinately cruel.
  9. jonathan hernandez13
    V -B

    I - The Heavens

    One could claim how beautiful the planets are, how well ordered the orbit of the planets are, and yet while the issue of a planet's beauty is relative to the observer the order of their movements is now in the third millennium AD well understood and studied.

    The planets are not perfect spheres, their shapes have a flattening known as oblateness, that while small is measurable and varies from planet to planet. Planets such as Venus have a surface that is as inhospitable to life and hellish as one could imagine, and the orbits of the planets are anything but perfectly circular.

    Not only are planetary movements elliptical but each have varying rates of inclination above an imaginary plane, each have a measurable amount of eccentricity, and literally millions of bodies (from the asteroids and the comets to Pluto itself) regularly intersect and cross the orbital paths of others.

    Furthermore, while almost all of the planets rotate and revolve counterclockwise as observed from above the plane of the solar system, some have retrograde motion (meaning they rotate and revolve the opposite way).

    If this is to be attributed to some sort of all-seeing, all-knowing, and all-powerful creator then we can certainly infer some details from his creations. For one, he/she/it has no desire for balanced order, despite the claims to the contrary.

    Whenever apologetics make the unfounded claim that God perfectly designed the solar system I ask them why the Northern pole is slightly larger than the southern, why Uranus is tilted almost completely on its side, and why Pluto and its moon Charon rotate around a common point of gravity, instead of the satellite revolving around its parent.

    II - Earth

    One could say that is a remarkable coincidence, and indicative of a plan and intelligent order, that the Earth is at an ideal distance from the sun for life. Too close and water would boil, too far and water would freeze. Earth is at an ideal distance and enjoys a special privilege, for without water there could be no life.

    As it happens, the so-called Goldilocks zone, a zone where liquid water is possible, extends from the orbit of Venus to the orbit of Mars (with the Earth roughly in the middle). Far from water being unique on planet Earth, we now know that at one time there were oceans on Venus and running water on Mars.

    Whenever people bring up the issue of water, I ask them why Mars has channels and valleys and dried river beds and flood plains. Furthermore, underneath the icy crust of the Jovian moon Europa there is a quite good chance that liquid water exists several miles underneath.

    If one day explorers or space probes uncover liquid water on such a far removed object, it sheds new light on the entire concept of a goldilocks zone. Also suggest that in the same way that the goldilocks argument is humanly chauvinistic, it may be that water is not a prerequisite for life.

    Further still, when people say that our position in the heavens is perfect for us, it is a categorical error of astronomical proportions. The Earth is over four billion years old, and while it may have had liquid water on its surface for a significant amount of time, for the majority of its time Earth would have been completely inhospitable for either humans or most lifeforms.

    Humans did not appear on the Earth until approximately 200,000 years ago; to say that the current condition on only part of the planet is ideal for humans, (and so much so that it suggests a plan with us in mind) is one of the most ignorant, anthropocentric, egocentric fantasies that one can delude themselves into believing.

    It is understandable why a species enjoys the idea of a planet just for them, but it ignores among other things that humans make up only a modest fraction of Earth's biology, and also that just because an idea makes us happy it does not make it correct.

    III - Biology

    People often marvel at the eye; behold, they would say, the eye is like a remarkable machine. Like a camera it can detect shapes, colors, perceive distance, it has number of moving parts like the iris (and compare it to the shutter of a camera lens) and interconnected parts like the optic nerves that attach to the occipital portion of the brain. No mere accident could produce such a remarkable design, it is surely the fingerprint of an intelligent design.

    Firstly, such an ill argument ignores everything that is currently known about evolution. None other than Charles Darwin himself makes note of the eye in his infamous book "On the Origin of Species", on chapter six (difficulties of the theory) where he makes note of possible objections to his observations---

    "TO suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree..."

    ---and this is usually where critics of evolution stop reading, or where they deliberately cut and paste, intentionally taking a statement out of context to make it sound as if Mister Darwin himself were making contradictory claims. And yet, as we read further---

    "Reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a simple and imperfect eye to one complex and perfect can be shown to exist, each grade being useful to its possessor, as is certainly the case; if further, the eye ever varies and the variations be inherited, as is likewise certainly the case and if such variations should be useful to any animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, should not be considered as subversive of the theory..."

    ---and I could not have said it better myself. But this is not intended to be a defense of evolution, I can fight that battle another time. This is a direct challenge to the notion that the eye has had an omniscient artificer. Not only do we have natural means of explaining the complexity of the eye, but also natural means of explaining why it is most definitely not a beautiful design.

    If the eye were perfectly designed, why are there over fifty different disorders of the eye?
  10. jonathan hernandez13
    V - C

    Disorders of sclera, cornea, iris and ciliary body-

    1)Scleritis — a painful inflammation of the sclera
    2)Keratitis — inflammation of the cornea
    3)Corneal ulcer / Corneal abrasion — loss of the surface epithelial layer of the eye's cornea
    4)Snow blindness / Arc eye — a painful condition caused by exposure of unprotected eyes to bright light
    5)Thygeson's superficial punctate keratopathy
    6)Corneal neovascularization
    7)Fuchs' dystrophy — cloudy morning vision
    8)Keratoconus — the cornea thins and changes shape to be more like a cone than a parabole
    9)Keratoconjunctivitis sicca — dry eyes
    10)Iritis — inflammation of the iris
    11)Uveitis — inflammatory process involving the interior of the eye; Sympathetic ophthalmia is a subset.

    Disorders of lens

    12)Cataract — the lens becomes opaque

    Disorders of choroid and retina

    13)Retinal detachment — the retina detaches from the choroid, leading to blurred and distorted vision
    14)Retinoschisis — the retina separates into several layers and may detach
    15)Hypertensive retinopathy — burst blood vessels, due to long-term high blood pressure
    16)Diabetic retinopathy damage to the retina caused by complications of diabetes mellitus, which could eventually lead to blindness
    17)Retinopathy — general term referring to non-inflammatory damage to the retina
    18)Retinopathy of prematurity — scarring and retinal detachment in premature babies
    19)Age-related macular degeneration — the photosensitive cells in the macula malfunction and over time cease to work
    20)Macular degeneration — loss of central vision, due to macular degeneration
    21)Epiretinal membrane — a transparent layer forms and tightens over the retina
    22)Retinitis pigmentosa — genetic disorder; tunnel vision preceded by night-blindness
    23)Macular edema — distorted central vision, due to a swollen macula

    Glaucoma

    24)Glaucoma — optic neuropathy

    Disorders of vitreous body and globe

    25)Floaters — shadow-like shapes which appear singly or together with several others in the field of vision

    Disorders of optic nerve and visual pathways

    26)Leber's hereditary optic neuropathy — genetic disorder; loss of central vision
    27)Optic disc drusen — globules progressively calcify in the optic disc, compressing the vasculature and optic nerve fibers

    Disorders of ocular muscles, binocular movement, accommodation and refraction

    28)Strabismus (Crossed eye/Wandering eye/Walleye) — the eyes do not point in the same direction
    29)Ophthalmoparesis — the partial or total paralysis of the eye muscles
    30)Progressive external ophthalmoplegia — weakness of the external eye muscles
    31)Esotropia — the tendency for eyes to become cross-eyed
    32)Exotropia — the tendency for eyes to look outward

    Disorders of refraction and accommodation

    33)Hypermetropia (Farsightedness) — the inability to focus on near objects (and in extreme cases, any objects)
    34)Myopia (Nearsightedness) — distant objects appear blurred
    35)Astigmatism — the cornea or the lens of the eye is not perfectly spherical, resulting in different focal points in different planes
    36)Anisometropia — the lenses of the two eyes have different focal lengths
    37)Presbyopia — a condition that occurs with growing age and results in the inability to focus on close objects
    38)ophthalmoplegia - paralysis of the one or more extraocular muscles which are responsible for eye movements.

    Visual disturbances and blindness

    39)Amblyopia (lazy eye) — poor or blurry vision due to either no transmission or poor transmission of the visual image to the brain
    40)Leber's congenital amaurosis — genetic disorder; appears at birth, characterised by sluggish or no pupillary responses
    41)Scotoma (blind spot) — an area impairment of vision surrounded by a field of relatively well-preserved vision
    42)Color blindness — the inability to perceive differences between some or all colors that other people can distinguish
    43)Achromatopsia / Maskun — a low cone count or lack of function in cone cells
    44)Nyctalopia (Nightblindness) — a condition making it difficult or impossible to see in the dark
    45)Blindness — the brain does not receive optical information, through various causes
    46)River blindness — blindness caused by long-term infection by a parasitic worm (rare in western societies)
    47)micro-opthalmia/coloboma — a disconnection between the optic nerve and the brain and/or spinal cord.

    Other disorders of eye and adnexa

    48)Red eye — conjunctiva appears red typically due to illness or injury
    49)Argyll Robertson pupil — small, unequal, irregularly shaped pupils

    Other

    50)Keratomycosis — fungal infection of the cornea
    51)Xerophthalmia — dry eyes, caused by vitamin A deficiency
    52)Aniridia — a rare congenital eye condition leading to underdevelopment or even absence of the iris of the eye

    This list is by no means exhaustive, nor are disorders restricted to the human eye. Some of these disorders can be brought on by careless exercises, but some are natural, and even inherited from birth. Apologetics can say that we welcome suffering of all kinds because we are a fallen race and inherited along with original sin the punishments brought on by the disobedience of the first man and woman.

    And yet we all presumably seen pictures of animals with glaucoma and cataracts too, presumably they are being punished as well because a fictional Mesopotamian couple ate a piece of fruit. This prompts the question, if the human eye is such a remarkable construction, why does it fail so much? Why does it make so many mistakes?

    Whenever people make the argument of the eye, I have merely to point at my own two poorly constructed orbs. Not only was I born short-sighted, but I have a slight stigmatism in one eye and am at risk from a retinal detachment; meaning I may one day go blind suddenly with little or no warning.

    If this is by design, I would certainly like very much to meet the designer and voice certain criticisms. We can and do regularly correct the mistakes of this supposed intelligent creator (glasses, bifocals, contacts, laser correction surgery), and if his creations can do what he cannot, then I have no reason to worship him/her/it.

    I sincerely hope that I have once and for all put to rest this insanely absurd claim that the eye is an indication of any intelligent maker and a standard of perfection, I have become tired to death or refuting this stale old canard.
  11. jonathan hernandez13
    V - D

    There are many more biological gaff ups of the supposed all-loving creator, too many to list here, enough to fill medical textbooks and journals (more are being discovered as we speak). Anyone marveling at childbirth and daring to call it miraculous must somehow be oblivious to animal childbirth, but if it were only human births that were remarkable, how does one account for the vast amount of miscarriages, stillborn babies, and childbirth anomalies.

    There is nothing miraculous in the fact that many women in the ancient world died in childbirth, and that cultures with the best in modern medicine and technology have more successful childbirth incidents that technologically disadvantaged ones. What is miraculous about the fact that the human birth canal is significantly smaller than the human head, which is one of the largest in comparison to the size of the rest of its bodies among all the mammals?

    What is miraculous in the fact that the infant skull ca only pass the pelvic corridor after careful positioning? Surely these are the signs of a poor or incompetent designer.

    By far, one of the best illustrations of a poor biological design in the animal kingdom, and a complication of pregnancy that sheds a light of doubt on the notion of a compassionate creator, are ectopic pregnancies.

    An ectopic pregnancy is when a fertilized egg on its way to the Uterus attaches itself and begins to develop on any other surface (particularly the Fallopian tubes). As the fetus grows and develops, blood and vital fluids are redistributed from mother's body to assist the growing fetus, which would normally gain its sustenance via the uterine wall.

    This is luckily a rather rare birth complication, but one among many others, and one of such a horrible nature that it is actually one of the only cases in which the Catholic Church is actually in favor of abortion (the mother will eventually die along with the fetus if it continues to grow in this way).

    My favorite biological argument against intelligent design outside of human birth is the Rabbit. Like Horses and Cows Rabbits are herbivores that have an organ particular to plant-eaters that serves as a fermentation chamber. In the Rabbit, this chamber is known as the Cecum, and is located unfortunately just in front of the anus.

    When a Rabbit eats, its food bypasses the stomach and intestines and goes to the Cecum to be processed. After some time, a Rabbit passes a small round pellet type cecotropes. In order to digest the nutrients that the Rabbit needs, it must turn around and eat something that came out of its own anus. I think that anyone who owns a Rabbit can perform this experiment with some observation, and it so far in my opinion the best yet argument against intelligent design, which are mutually opposing terms in this context.

    There are things of such seeming complexity and order even at the cellular and sub cellular level that an intelligence is often suggested and invoked. The bacterial flagellum has become a favorite example of the Intelligent Design movement and all critics of evolution by extension.

    One of the primary contributors to the ID movement, Biochemistry Professor Michael Behe, is also the inventor of the argument known as Irreducible complexity. They use the bacterial flagellum as an example because it seems to be a complex machine. It has over fifty chemical parts that seem to fit together like a fine engine.

    The crux of the irreducible complexity argument is that if a single part of the flagellum were missing, the flagellum would be nonfunctional and useless. What use is there, they would argue, in part of a mousetrap; in order for the mousetrap to work it needs to have all of its parts in one piece to achieve its function.

    Again, this argument is based on certain presuppositions not only about certain unnamed intelligent designers but also functionality as its intention. In any case Biology Professor Kenneth Miller tested this hypothesis by deconstructing a bacterial flagellum. They removed most of the chemical parts so that only ten of the fifty or so were remaining, at the very base where the flagellum attaches to the bacterial body.

    They observed to see if what remained would have some kind of function, and were surprised to see that what remained was fully functional. In this particular study the chemical parts were found to be nearly identical to something known as the Type III Secretion system, a kind of microscopic needle that bacterium use to attach to potential hosts and inject their own potentially harmful proteins into its potential victim.

    Supporters of the intelligent design also boldly argue that in nature everything moves towards more disorder rather than order, and that evolution is a contradiction to that which only design can explain. Without going into too many tangents and details, if that were true then we would have no sun; fusion uses the simplest element in the universe, Hydrogen, to synthesize the more complex elements, like Iron.

    Furthermore, anyone who has ever seen a snowflake under a microscope or a spiral shell on a beach can see very well that complex forms do arise in nature on their own. At the sub-cellular and molecular level, the laws of chemistry impose on elements order just as particles impart the elements with a seeming of design.

    They can argue that DNA is designed, and yet chemistry gives us such a vast family of organic molecules from Methane to Triacontane (which are among the simplest of non-reactive Hydrocarbon compounds and do not include the isomers for each one), and one can easily construct long chains of molecules in a lab without the interference of any gods. In order for something as incredibly long and complex as DNA two things are needed (neither of which are a creator); time and energy. Luckily, the universe has a fair amount of that.

    In Northern Ireland there is a world heritage site known as the giant’s causeway. It consists of large, hexagonally shaped pillars towering up through the ground along the coast. According to an old Irish legend, they well constructed by a giant, hence the name. In the absence of modern science, and lacking our understandings, people have no way of explaining what is unknown to them, and so they create their own.

    This is called an argument from ignorance, and is a common and widespread psychological phenomenon. In fact, the Causeway is made out of basalt and was formed when magma came up through the ocean and through a chalk bed before rapidly drying. We no longer believe in giants, and the giant hypothesis is no longer defendable. I look forward to the day when the God hypothesis is equally obsolete.
  12. jonathan hernandez13
    VI - The Ontological Argument for the existence of God

    Among the various arguments for God one of the more popular ones, often invoked in some form or variation, whether consciously or otherwise, is the ontological argument. The argument was first proposed by medieval philosophers Avicenna and Anselm of Canterbury.

    One of the failings of the argument is that firstly, it begins with the conclusion. Ultimately, the argument is contingent upon the assumption that God is real and the argument will present itself in an attempt to arrive logically at the conclusion that God is real. It is a kind of circular reasoning, where the proposal begs the question.

    Furthermore, one cannot deduce things purely through reason alone. In order to investigate the truth of a claim one must investigate the claims, truth is contingent not upon the thoughts of a thinker but instead upon observable and falsifiable concepts. Truth in this sense is a euphemism for evidence, in a sense truth is not absolute as it may be defined differently by different people and have subjective properties.

    If I claim that a fairy lived inside one of my pocket, regardless of my arguments, one would have no choice but to respond with a measure of incredulity because of the extraordinary nature of the claim. One would want to examine the insides of my pocket before lauding my argument, if the claim is false, the argument is meaningless.

    Claiming not only that there is a God; but also that it may care about my existence, or love me, or care about whether or not I die and go to an afterlife, and whether or not I masturbate, what gender I choose to have sex with, and on what day of the week I choose to drink his blood, are all profoundly extraordinary claims.

    Not surprisingly, since the argument was first proposed it was embraced and attempts to improve upon it by some supporters (especially Christian apologetics) have been made. Not surprisingly, free thinkers of all manner of persuasions and influences have voiced certain criticisms and objections (among them respected philosophers like St. Thomas Aquinas, Immanuel Kant, and Bertrand Russell).

    Inspired by their example and by my continuing amazement that some people of the non-medieval age still consider it a good argument, I have joined them in making a few observant disagreements.

    Avicenna's argument

    The Avicenna argument makes two definite claims. Firstly, it presupposes that the universe required a first cause. That may be the case, but there is no evidence that that claim is correct. There was once no natural explanation for the origin of the universe, this was before the universe was found to be expanding, and before the Big Bang theory along with an updated cosmological model was established.

    Even if it is true that God was the first cause, one is still required to prove that a God exists to begin with. If one is making an extraordinary claim, the burden of proof falls on them. The Big Bang is an extraordinary theory, with some rather compelling evidence. Even if the anonymous God was the first cause, we can infer nothing from the fact that it created the universe from that fact.

    We can assign to it no attributes, and make no definite statements about its nature - let alone which day of the week it prefers to be worshipped. A major failing of the argument is that it fails to define or identify the God. If any God can presumably be credited with creating the universe, this argument could be made for an all-mighty Cosmic space goat.

    In regard to the second claim, it presupposes that a God is a necessarily existent given the universe exists. This aspect of the argument depends entirely upon the correctness of the previous assertion, which is categorically false. God, in a universe with natural laws and explanations, is no more necessary than an invisible pink unicorn.

    Anselm’s argument

    1. God is something than which nothing greater can be thought.
    2. God may exist in the understanding.
    3. To exist in reality and in the understanding is greater than to exist in the understanding alone.
    4. Therefore, God exists in reality.


    1)God is something than which nothing greater can be thought

    Again, there is a failing in that the term greatness is subjective and since it is not defined, can be defined any number of ways. If one can define God as the behavior of the Old Testament God that demands human sacrifice at least once, commands genocide, and leisurely kills vast segments of the population with natural disasters, I dare call myself greater than a God like that.

    If one can define greatness as supreme intelligence, why or how can an all-powerful being like God create the entire universe but is unable to find Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden?

    ‘But the Lord God called to the man, “Where are you?”’ (NIV Gen 3:9)

    If one defines God in terms of absolute power, what kind of a God can create the universe but can’t beat a human in a wrestling match? (NIV Gen 32 22-32)?

    If one defines God by supreme compassion, then why does he kill so rampantly? (NIV)


    -Gen 38:7
    -1Kings 18:40
    -2Kings 1: 9-14
    -Numbers 31:7
    -Deuteronomy 20: 10-15


    And presuming that killing individuals and in some cases laying siege to cities to kill large numbers of people were permissible and justifiable for land, because they worshipped foreign Gods, or just made God angry; he is more than murderous.

    As already noted he is genocidal and homicidal, but also megalomaniacal, jealous of other Gods (which is a peculiar habit trait of a God who is claimed to be the only one), a supporter of human sacrifice, homophobic, xenophobic, misogynistic, racist, and overwhelmingly in support of slavery.

    Far from being a compassionate God, Yahweh is a kind of cosmic tyrant or celestial dictator who holds sway over you at all times and even beyond death shall be the ultimate master of your fate in the afterlife. In terms of compassion, I would as soon worship a rabid Jackal and call it all-loving.

    2)God may exist in the understanding

    That would certainly be one way of stating a self-evident truth. I could also argue that he/she/it only exists in the mind.

    3)To exist in reality and in the understanding is greater than to exist in the understanding alone

    Yet again, the whole term ‘greater’ is subjective and in this case greatly suggestive. As I’ve already illustrated, the kind of greatness that is attributed to God can be deemed a kind of evil to any contemporary human with even a shred of moral decency.

    Furthermore, to suggest that existing in both the physical as well as the conceptual is yet another plain truism that can be applied to anything in the natural materialistic world. A mosquito is an annoying insect that exists in the physical sense, I also have a conceptual understanding of it in my mind. The fact that it is existing and biting me does not make it any greater in my opinion.

    4)Therefore, God exists in reality

    I have yet to see how this conclusion logically follows. To suggest that something must exist simply because we have an ideal concept of it does not make any kind of reasonable sense. To illustrate how laughably absurd this argument is, we have only to replace God with a cosmic space goat. The ontological argument for the CSG goes something like this.

    1)The cosmic space goat is something than which nothing greater can be thought

    For one, it can create the universe in a trillionth of a second instead of six days, it doesn’t need a day to rest, and it will never ask us to mutilate our own genitals as a sign of a covenant.

    2)The cosmic space goat may exist in the understanding

    Obviously, because we are thinking about it right now, thus we may perceive of it to some extent.

    3)To exist in reality and in the understanding is greater than to exist in the understanding alone

    Not really, but whatever, I’ll humor a fool and give him/her enough rope to hang themselves any day.

    4)Therefore, the cosmic space goat exists in reality

    And I can think of no better way to conclude this illustration than to reflect on an observation. If for some reason in the first century AD in the middle east it occurred to worship a heavenly hoofed creator instead of a Jewish carpenter, then a millennium later a medieval philosopher may have been proposing the same argument in support of its existence. And presumably we would have been debating the existence of a galactic Bovid for the last thousand years instead.
  13. losthawken
    I’ve enjoyed, for the most part, reading your arguments here and have found the challenges you’ve proposed to be very engaging. I’ve got two thoughts for you that I hope I can share without sounding like I’m flaming...

    First off:
    I’m not meaning to try and defend the ontological argument. You make some valid points. However, there seems to be a flaw in these paragraphs. You state that the ontological argument is essentially circular because it starts with the assumption that there is a God and then goes on to try and prove that there is a God.

    In the very next paragraph, you also make a circular argument. You prepare to disprove what in essence amounts to the supernatural. You say that ‘truth’ is defined by ‘observable and falsifiable concepts’, however, the underlying assumption there is that there the universe is constant and that observable/falsifiable events are always repeatable. This is the same as saying that there is no such thing as the ‘supernatural’. Essentially you have defined truth on the assumption that there is no supernatural, and then go and try to disprove the supernatural on that basis.

    This is why there will forever be an argument over the existence of God, and why I have no interest in a passionate debate. All our definitions and conclusions must begin with the assumption that there either IS or IS NOT such a thing as the supernatural. There is no middle ground from which to begin.

    The second thing that I’d like to mention is that while I enjoy this philosophical challenge, your tone has started to slant toward the condescending. We’ve agreed to disagree and said that we are friends, so as your friend I feel obligated to tell you that some of your statements have come across as disrespectful to me. I want to be clear that it is not what you have said or what you believe, it is how you have said some things. You are of course entitled to your opinions and freedom of speech, especially in the blog section of the forum, so this isn’t about apology. It’s about a friend being honest with another friend. I hope you understand.
  14. jonathan hernandez13
    Hmmm, I was afraid of this. It is very difficult to be critical of something that someone believes without sounding critical of the persons who believe them. I have been playing softball, but it's become more hardball, especially with my critical perceptions of God and the arguments for his belief.

    I sincerely do not want to condescend or insult, and that is not my intention, my only intent, as the title says, is to explain why I do not believe in God.


    I do not wish to preach or proselytize, of course if I can persuade others I would not protest. If I come accross as smug or elite please understand that that was not intentional. I can become passionate about something I am passionate about, and as much as I try to be professional about this, I am after all only human.

    Thank you for reminding me that I am only a man, I respect your friendship and wouldn't want a silly blog to come between us. I apologize if I directly offended you, but please understand that I cannot apologize for my beliefs.
  15. losthawken
    Jon, you just gained a huge amount of respect in my book. Thanks. I hope you continue, as it has been very profitable to me to hear your perspectives and arguments.
    No need to apologize for your beliefs, I'm just glad we can all talk about this like grown-ups :)
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