Characters you dislike

Discussion in 'Character Development' started by Chinspinner, Jan 12, 2015.

  1. Selbbin

    Selbbin The Moderating Cat Staff Contributor Contest Winner 2023

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    Why would I bother reading every single bickering post? My point stands. Twilight is shit writing. The rest of your rambling sentence is pretentious wanking.
     
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  2. Steerpike

    Steerpike Felis amatus Contributor

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    Now, if we want to do that, that's another matter entirely. We critiqued it on another forum back when it was at its height of popularity (though it was an excerpt from somewhere in the middle), and there were any number of things that could have been done a lot better than they were.
     
  3. Steerpike

    Steerpike Felis amatus Contributor

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    This explains a lot.
     
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  4. Chinspinner

    Chinspinner Contributor Contributor

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    I now think that Steerpike is either having some sort of a nervous breakdown, or his account has been hacked.
     
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  5. Steerpike

    Steerpike Felis amatus Contributor

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    I don't know...they brought in some BV Reserve to a work function. I have serious doubts that a nervous breakdown is even physically possible after trying a glass.
     
  6. AlannaHart

    AlannaHart Senior Member

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    I doubt it. I've seen him backed into a corner over his obnoxious comments before. The claws come out, he starts insulting other members' intelligence at the end of every post. It's not terribly mature.
     
  7. AlannaHart

    AlannaHart Senior Member

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    I'm just going to use Selbbin's quote every time I see an eye-roll worthy comment from Steerpike from now on.

    "Your rambling sentence is pretentious wanking."
     
  8. Catrin Lewis

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    All right, kids, enough. Do I have to send you to the principal? Say you're sorry, shake hands, and sit down and do your work. :dry:

    :D
     
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  9. Steerpike

    Steerpike Felis amatus Contributor

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    But doing my work defeats the purpose of being on the internet :)
     
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  10. NiallRoach

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    I don't know that these last few pages have been well written, but they were certainly more entertaining than Twilight.
     
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  11. Link the Writer

    Link the Writer Flipping Out For A Good Story. Contributor

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    "Ha, ha ha," I laughed, the sound escaping my well-formed, plumped lips. Which is odd, considering that, as a whale, I don't even have lips.

    And wow, I feel nauseated after reading that sentence I just wrote. :x
     
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  12. Steerpike

    Steerpike Felis amatus Contributor

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    With the exception of a handful of posts. That's not a high bar to set as a standard for entertainment, though.
     
  13. CedricMiddorick

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    As others have said, The Chosen One trope is bad. I'm all for sticking to age-old clichés but most Chosen One stories don't even try to be any bit imaginative.

    Another character I dislike is the whiter-than-white mentor, whose only purpose is to act as a sage to the main character and to die just before the last leg of the hero's journey because woah, no one ever saw that coming (sarcasm)

    However clichés can be good, if they're given some depth (eg Link from the Legend of Zelda series is basically a walking The Chosen One stereotype, but the fact that each game deals with a different ancestor of Link throughout the world's timelline - that is original and gives the character some much-needed depth)
     
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    I've been toying with the idea of writing something wrong the perspective of the decidely-jaded-mentor who gets saddled with the son of one of his old companions and beats the damned kid into shape, rather having his heart softened by their innocence or something equally saccharine.

    Not that I've any idea where I'd go with it beyond that, mind.
     
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    I like Jack Reacher, but he is a Marty Stu for sure. The stories get pretty boring after awhile, and its kind of an old that's he's a vagrant/homeless super warrior.

    The character I really hate is Honor Harrington (from the Honor Harrington series by David Weber). She is by far the worst Mary Sue I've ever read, and despite the fact that David Weber writes some of the greatest action scenes (really, space battle scenes) in the genre, she makes all of the books completely unreadable for me.

    So I guess I really just don't like the female Mary Sue characters.
     
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  16. CurryDutch

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    My least favorite character is the stereotypical Shonen Manga protagonist (Ash from Pokemon, Goku from Dragon Ball Z, and Naruto from well.... Naruto). They are all hyperactive dumbasses that I'm supposed to find endearing so I can root for them to reach the next power level and defeat the bad guy. Too bad the only thing I'm rooting for is a massive gain of IQ so they can act like normal intelligent human beings.
     
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    It's not Goku's fault he got dropped on his head ... :p
     
  18. Link the Writer

    Link the Writer Flipping Out For A Good Story. Contributor

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    True, but it still doesn't take not getting dropped on his head to know that the following are some of the dumbest things a person could do in his situation:

    (1) Allow his team to attack the villain one at a time.

    (1.5) Allow the villain to power up to his full potential. Yes, even if the villain is someone who destroyed Goku's entire race and just got done committing yet another genocide on Namek.

    (2) Never teach them all the tricks he knows to give them an advantage. Instant Transmission or Kaioken would've been very useful for Gohan pre-Super Saiyan transformation and the other fighters who, y'know, couldn't go Super Saiyan.

    (3) Willfully plans to let his eleven-year-old son go fight an evil killer android even when he himself admitted that said android was much to strong for everyone, even himself! Then when his kid is getting the crap pound out of him by the villain, stand there and do nothing. Congrats Goku, here is your Father of the Year award.

    (4) Allow children to fight a cosmic-killing being created out of what is basically pure, unadulterated evil rather than kill it quickly.

    And we're supposed to think Goku's the good guy, here?!
     
  19. AlannaHart

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    :D @Link the Writer I can totally understand why Goku's character annoys you, but you dislike him for all of the reasons that Dragon Ball fans love him.
     
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    There is a concept called "extreme play" whereby you let your children take risks that they control when they are young. There are studies that demonstrate that those children who ARE allowed to take risks when young are less likely to indulge in risky activity (drug-taking, dangerous driving, etc.) when older.

    So, it would seem that Goku is embracing this concept wholeheartedly.
     
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    We're talking about Dragonabll Z....in a writing forum??????
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    ?????????????????????????????????????????????:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
     
  22. ChickenFreak

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    Is there any chance that you could abandon this term?

    I realize that below a certain age, the Nazis may not seem any more real than Genghis Khan or the pharaohs.

    Above a certain age, they're a memory.

    They're not in my memory, but my parents were children during that war, and my grandparents lived through it. And there are people still alive whose parents and grandparents were murdered by the Nazis.

    "Nazi" is not a funny little suffix. It's the name for murderers who took millions of real victims.
     
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    The only think I like about him, at least some versions of him is his honour and his determination. Apart from that, he's boring and over-powered for the most part.

    So what did DC do when they relaunched their titles in their New 52? Took away his honour and made him a whiny bitch. At least Man of Steel had an excuse to make him a whiny bitch as he was young and inexperienced.

    That's why I never use the term "Grammar Nazi". There's a huge difference between giving a rat's ass about the English language and being a right-wing extremist with a burning hatred of just about everything.
     
  24. AlannaHart

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    Yeah, what's wrong with that? Writers wrote that show, you know.
    (Or just Akira Toriyama by himself. I have no idea! But it's not like the story was poorly written or anything.)
     
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  25. Link the Writer

    Link the Writer Flipping Out For A Good Story. Contributor

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    *insert hard-core rock music as the camera zooms into your twitching, horrified face for nearly a minute*

    Sorry, sorry, I had to take a dig at my favorite childhood show. :p

    Plus, comparing those who may be a tad extreme with the grammar or feminism to those who, like you said, basically committed mass murder is hugely insulting to both the victims of the Nazis and the group being called 'Nazi'.

    To be fair, it was a manga that was later adapted to an anime show. It was never a book with written prose, etc.
     

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