Westworld

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  1. Historical Science

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    After last Sunday's episode, I hope Sizemore is the first Westworld casualty.

    I agree that episode 6 really got it going. The story seems more defined. Maeve has been great all season long but she's starting to steal the show. Her character is shaping into something incredible, can't wait to see what they do with her. Her acting (and the entire cast) has been amazing.

    Something I keep thinking about (especially in that last episode) is how the headquarters area with all the glass rooms is not loaded with cameras. There seemed to be a lot of strange activity going on in a place that looked very organized, advanced, clean, etc. You'd expect cameras everywhere but maybe that's why all the rooms have glass walls? Complete transparency so cameras are unnecessary? Everyone else always seemed to be looking the other way too.

    I am looking forward to rewatching the entire season afterward. I know I am missing a lot, week long breaks between episodes does not help haha Maybe its time to submerge myself into the land of TV show theories posted online.
     
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    Any chance you caught the blink and you'll miss it easter egg hat-tip to the original movie in this last episode? :)
     
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    I never actually saw the original movie. I never even heard of it until I heard about this series. I do plan on watching it after season 1 at some point though.

    I did read into some theories and my mind is pretty blown. Definitely buying into one in particular.
     
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    Well, half the theory I mentioned buying into was confirmed last night :) The other half still pending..
     
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    Yeah. I expected that particular twist to eventually raise its head, just not with that particular character. As for the "easter egg", in the episode before last, when Bernard goes down into the old sub-basement that appears to have been left behind from early days, there is a "host" standing against the wall that is dressed exactly like Yul Brynner's character from the original. It's in soft focus, so you don't really get to match the face, but the attire is a defo nod.
     
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    That's interesting, definitely missed it haha Maybe the week before the season finale I'll go back and watch the previous nine.

    *SPOILER*

    I never suspected Bernard to be a "host" either but the theory I read called it before the episode with a good amount of evidence. If you are interested I can dig up the link and show you, it predicts some other crazy stuff with good evidence that I am VERY excited to see play out but we will see what happens haha
     
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    "Oh, and Bernard... If you go looking for the truth, get the whole thing. It's like a good fuck. Half is worse than none at all."

    ~ Meave

    Fucking awesome. :bigcool:
     
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    I guess the original concept of Westworld was robots that seem human in a place where (for a fee) you the human can have an experience doing whatever it is you want - to the robots - not get hurt yourself, and if what you want to do fits the bill, not be arrested for it. I can still see Richard Benjamin facing down Yul Brenner in a "meet me in front of the saloon at noon" showdown that in that crew of adult's childhood was an ultimate fantasy - for the boys, raised on cowboy movies.

    The key feature then was you couldn't tell the robots from the actual people. A significant weakness in the hard to tell between the two was, the humans are you and your pal. Everybody else is a robot. What this second Westworld attempted to do was monkey with the concept of who is really real? The weight of the episodes built up to this (episodically, yuk yuk yuk) but also built an expectation of some sort of imaginative, if not significant revelation in the end.

    Unfortunately, having lost control of their characters, the writers ended with everyone might as well have been robots. Even Anthony Hopkins (not his best performance) could have been a robot, and if we were left asking that as the finale then in my view the entire production was a waste of time and effort, and this will certainly be the last HBO-driven movie series I'll sit down and watch in weekly, hour-long, 45-minute long or 30-minute long increments whichever they all actually are. In the end I didn't care if Anthony Hopkins was a robot or not. Once everybody's a robot, what's the point? Look, a movie where all the actors are pretending to be robots pretending to be people! Wow!

    I'm sure these are very entertaining to a wide swath of America's discerning public. I'm sure the nude scenes, gunfights and blade attacks more than made up for any is this leading to anything us "artsy fartsy" fans might be stupid enough to expect. Fortunately for Blade Runner (was Rick Deckard a skin job?), insofar as the concept of replicants being virtually undetectable from humans, Westworld II offers no competition.

    I swore The Girlfriend Experience would be the last one of these I'd waste a month on. This one is it finally for sure. And, by the way Game of Thrones is just a medieval soap opera. You might as well be watching Days of Our Lives...with all the characters carrying flame throwers.
     
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    Everything about the theory was spot on! And I mean everything.

    A good episode, looking forward to the finale and then to rewatch it.
     
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    I've not been tuning into or reading any predictions or theories, but once I knew the nature of Bernard, the next logical step seemed obvious. :)
     
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    I had my own theory, admittedly a thousand to one shot. A badly guessed guest appearance by Arnold Schwarzzy as Westworld's Arnold. Back, he'd be. And in the guise of an old T-800, very creaky, cybernetic organism. Living tissue on a metal endoskeleton... A crossover, why not, strength through unity, quick. Before the ever inflating Marvel Universe sweeps us all up.

    In seriousness I need to watch the episode 9 again. The house was hectic when I attempted it first go around—I got the twist but without the detail.

    ↑ There's one more to go you know @Denegroth if you can bear it. I think it's a revenge-fest.
     
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    Yeah...I know. Even so, I felt so robbed with the last one, this next one would be a case of "fool me twice."
     
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    I usually don't get into the show theories online but couldn't help myself this time around haha Things people predicted through 5 or 6 episodes is pretty impressive but I guess if I had watched each episode six times like those people maybe I would see the same haha.

    *SPOILER*

    Multiple timelines is the cornerstone of the theory and it doesn't stop with just the Arnold/Dolores interview flashbacks. We will see what happens in the finale haha
     
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    And last night's episode gave us the answer to these theories, signed, sealed, delivered. ;) {Arnold,Dolores}, {William, The Man in Black, Dolores)...

    I was and was not surprised at Meave's final move at the end of the episode. It's too early in the run of the show for that particular plot move (had she gone through with it), but I'm left to wonder where they take her development from here. She's played her cards, so to speak.
     
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    I've not seen it yet, but took the in-between time to take in 'Ex Machina'. It visited similar themes but had them condensed into a tighter scenario. Cinematography was lush and I found the dialogue compelling. Two hours I won't regret spending.
     
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    ... but the bizarre dance scene, tho... o_O :-D
     
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    "Imma tear up the dance floor, dude. Check it out. :supercool:"
     
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    Oh yeah, just laughed at the recollection. It was hard to reconcile. Wonder if it was put in for a bet? I said (with a shrug) to myself: um, okay, well the guy does spend a lot of time with his own company.
     
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    I have seen Ex Machina around and have been wanting to check it out. I now look forward to the dance scene.

    I really enjoyed the first season of Westworld and the finale was great. I think I want to sit on it for a while before rewatching it. I agree that it will be interesting to see what happens with Maeve's character's. How about all the samurai fighting? The opening of Eastworld in season 2?
     
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    I won't lie, my expectations have been pretty low for Westworld ever since I found out J.J. Abrams was a part of the project. To me, his entire career is a long series of taking advantage of nostalgia with highly emotional, plot hole ridden, monstrosities. Most of which boils down to 'ominously same something, keep that thing hidden, reveal some part of it just to say something else ominous' (don't get me started on Lost)

    That being said, the finale blew me away, and I can't recommend this show enough. That plot point he was hiding in a box the whole time? It actually meant something. There was payoff.
     

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