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      Finishing the prologue! Only a few scenes to go.

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      Quote Originally Posted by RowenaFW View Post
      I'm editing too, pea!

      Kinda draft 3/4, because I can't redraft linearly - every time I touch it I seem to introduce a new sub plot or semantic field... *sigh*

      It's now 155k after major condensation of part I, which was a bit Jane Austenish and apparently didn't foreshadow the blood bath in part II very successfully.

      Left some holes in it. Need to rewrite a kiss scene...
      155k?! That's a big book.

      I'm in the same boat of redrafting non-linearly. I still have scenes to finish but didn't really have enough to occupy myself so began editing too. The draft is mostly complete, but reads like cobbled-together nonsense. Much editing is needed.
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      Starting the second chapter.
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      Restarted again, bleh.

      Just got to the scene where two characters meet for the first time. Later on in the story, one is going to be responsible for the death of the other, but of course neither of them know that and so they're being really friendly to each other.
      It's actually kind of awkward...
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      Quote Originally Posted by Pea View Post
      155k?! That's a big book.

      I'm in the same boat of redrafting non-linearly. I still have scenes to finish but didn't really have enough to occupy myself so began editing too. The draft is mostly complete, but reads like cobbled-together nonsense. Much editing is needed.
      I've seen mentions of much longer books on here - though it is my longest finished one. I use the colours pink (GO BACK AND LOOK AT THIS SECTION. IT'S ODD), red (THERE MAY BE A PROBLEM WITH THIS, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SOLVE IT ATM) and blue (I DID SOMETHING HERE. NEXT TIME I LOOK I SHOULD PAUSE AND CONSIDER HOW IT READS NOW) to mark what I'm doing. Sometimes there are dozens of pages all in black, other times there are a few pages littered with colour.
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      Quote Originally Posted by RowenaFW View Post
      I've seen mentions of much longer books on here - though it is my longest finished one. I use the colours pink (GO BACK AND LOOK AT THIS SECTION. IT'S ODD), red (THERE MAY BE A PROBLEM WITH THIS, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SOLVE IT ATM) and blue (I DID SOMETHING HERE. NEXT TIME I LOOK I SHOULD PAUSE AND CONSIDER HOW IT READS NOW) to mark what I'm doing. Sometimes there are dozens of pages all in black, other times there are a few pages littered with colour.
      That's an interesting way of doing things. I keep a bunch of spreadsheets with notes per chapter of stuff I have to add and fix, and do those while re-reading the chapters I've not worked on in a few months (Google docs: order by Last Modified) to see what I could improve.

      I feel like there's two stages of editing... bulking up the story to be more connected and substantial, and then the 'cutting' stage where you remove all the rambly superfluous nonsense and distilling down the good parts you wrote. I think it was Stephen King that said a good 2nd draft word count is first draft - 20% = 2nd draft.
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      I do use some supporting documents: time line, contents page, and "Notes for draft 3" (am now on draft 4, having never really finished draft 3), which includes things like a list of themes, quotes I want to put in somewhere and problems I've noticed which can't just be solved with a quick fix in one part of the document.

      My main changes involved cutting about 17k words (5 chapters) out of part 1, because it was too slow and rambling, and rewriting what was essentially a "then they just decided to make things work" ending into a protracted court case that draws the characters together - evolving a part III.
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      Quote Originally Posted by RowenaFW View Post
      I do use some supporting documents: time line, contents page, and "Notes for draft 3" (am now on draft 4, having never really finished draft 3), which includes things like a list of themes, quotes I want to put in somewhere and problems I've noticed which can't just be solved with a quick fix in one part of the document.

      My main changes involved cutting about 17k words (5 chapters) out of part 1, because it was too slow and rambling, and rewriting what was essentially a "then they just decided to make things work" ending into a protracted court case that draws the characters together - evolving a part III.
      I have a progress sheet with the chapter names and all the wordcounts for each chapter, and a running "goal" of how many words I want.

      I did something similar with the first act of my book too, cut out the first 5 chapters or so because they were just superfluous and I wanted to get right into the action.
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      Restarted again, bleh.

      Just got to the scene where two characters meet for the first time. Later on in the story, one is going to be responsible for the death of the other, but of course neither of them know that and so they're being really friendly to each other.
      It's actually kind of awkward...
      This is really funny, by the way. On rereading I get a lot of foreshadowing and laugh a lot - when my OH asks me why and I read the bit, he usually jsut looks blank, and I ahve to explain (at least he knows the plot...).

      I have a progress sheet with the chapter names and all the wordcounts for each chapter, and a running "goal" of how many words I want.

      I did something similar with the first act of my book too, cut out the first 5 chapters or so because they were just superfluous and I wanted to get right into the action.
      I was going to say I only keep track of word counts per part, but that isn't true - I just delete the word counts per chapter after every draft so I can pretend I'm not that obsessive...

      It wasn't even the first 5 chapters I cut, it was 10 half-chapters/pieces in chapters in the first 17 chapters - reordering and cobbling back together the remaining 13. It was a serious mess!
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      Quote Originally Posted by RowenaFW View Post
      I was going to say I only keep track of word counts per part, but that isn't true - I just delete the word counts per chapter after every draft so I can pretend I'm not that obsessive...
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      I'm actually outlining and making the set -- I've changed things so dramatically so many times that I stopped writing and I'm just researching.
      In Soviet Russia, the book writes you

      WiP: Trunked, need to research moar
      WiP 2: 32K/40K, second draft. I will let it rest for a month, since there are 8K words missing and I have no idea what else to add, then I will revise it and plan a third and final draft.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Cassiopeia Phoenix View Post
      I'm actually outlining and making the set -- I've changed things so dramatically so many times that I stopped writing and I'm just researching.
      Research is good. It's important to have a good plan to make a strong map for your story to follow. The first draft can be as rubbish as anything as long as the plan is sound. Stick to the plan...
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      Chapter 21 and at just over 65k words. Nearing the end now. MC just made the mistake that's gonna plummet the world into ruin and the rulers of his world ain't happy and he's gonna get locked up the moment he gets in

      And from there on, I have a couple of fight scenes and war scenes to build the plot up, a couple of scenes of communication between the rulers and the evil people, a couple of scene of my MC and his lover, and then finally, the ending itself.

      All in all, I suspect another 100 pages to it, maximum. It's at about 300-400 words per page, so let's say, another 30k words or so and I'm done with my first draft!!!!!! Which has numerous changes in the back story and quite a few scenes that need to be rewritten, and about 100 pages of my existing draft needs to be rewritten into 3rd person narrative. And then I shall at last have my complete first draft!

      Another few months... Think I can finish it by June?

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      Over the last few days I've decided to go on a brief hiatus. I love to write, but the last few paragraphs I wrote were forced, and reading them in context with my earlier drafts makes them sound like they were written by a different person. If anything, I need a nap more than a muse.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mckk View Post
      Another few months... Think I can finish it by June?
      Go for it.
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      I'm at the 8th chapter of the rewrite and so far I've got 3500 words more than the previous draft. I'm like that, I always end up with more than i started with. I explore some thoughts even more and clarify, add pieces of dialogue or feelings for more depth or just because it makes it better. of course I also remove some parts, but in the end it's going to be a heavier ms than when I started. The second draft was 95K so I wonder where I'm going to end with this one. but I'm sure it will improve a lot.
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      Almost fully-plotted and on page 12...about 3,000 words.
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      Not writing right now, but was looking through some drafts/beginnings for stories I found on my computer.

      One in particular might be worth continuing with.
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      Ground to an insufferable halt. Been so busy with other projects lately that writing is on the backburner, but should be able to get back into it soon.
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      Chapter Three and foundering.

      Begin rant.

      How do you write a conceited pariah? I can make myself laugh at his delusions, but I can't further the story, because everyone is hiding their doings from him. And how do I show the scene I want to come next without writing Chapter Four from the point of view of a guy whose chapter I wanted to save for later, because he has a secret and I want the reader to discover it later when they've seen some more of him and like him even more (because I happen to be a particularly cruel author who will inflict all manner of anguish on her readers). And if I put the scene off for later, what do I write in the meantime? I may have to ditch Chapter Three and forget trying to do the chapters from the POV of two people from whom things are being hidden, because although I'd like to explore their characters more, the story comes first. Gack. Why do I always write stories about political and ideological social problems? And why do said stories drag on and on without really saying anything? Maybe I'll bore myself with a romance next.

      End rant.
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