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      Starting sentences with but

      Long ago, my primary school teacher taught me to never begin sentences with "but". I grew up thinking that was the law, and there were no buts. However, as I became interested in reading, I noticed many books have sentences that break this rule. But I'm still not sure what the answer is. Thanks for helping out.

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      To the best of my knowledge, using "but" is fine. The only restriction I know of is stylistic: don't start consecutive sentences with "but."

      When she arrived, he was gone. But she waited anyway, just in case. But he never showed up. But later, in her apartment, she discovered a note. But how had he gotten in to put it there? But then, he was a locksmith.

      Not good. One "but" is fine, and maybe you can follow it with one "however" or "on the other hand." But don't overdo it.
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      I use "but" and I feel it's appropriate. I do it to avoid run-on sentences.

      Suppose something needs to be described that needs a fuller explanation. This might happen if the lead is vacillating or I have to demonstrate a conundrum. I seem to change between "but" and "however."

      For me it's a necessity. The attributes of my lead are that's he's young, he's been fired a few times, he knows his mouth gets him in trouble and he's in a job where people get hurt. The break between sentences let's me better provide information about the event. It also allows me demonstrate a thought process by my lead.

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      Don't do it in formal writing. The rules of fiction are somewhat more flexible. You can do many thinsg for effect that are not approved for formal writing. Even incomplete sentences.

      You can start a sentence with but in fiction. The Grammar Guard can wince and waggle a disapproving finger, but it's a bit outside their jurisdiction for such a minor offense.

      But don't overdo it.
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      the same goes for 'and'...
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      Go ahead and start sentences with but or and. The only people who object, here in the 21st century, are pedantic grammar pains-in-the-ass who insist on adhering to arbitrary and obsolete rules.

      As others have said, don't overdo it, but that's aesthetic advice, not a rule.

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      As everyone else is saying, it's fine in fiction. Just don't do it in anything that's suppose to be formal writing, follow the guidelines for the style if it's formal.

      They beat that same rule into my head as a child, didn't much like it when I pointed out the novels with it.
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      I actually disagree with the idea that you should not start sentences with "but" or "and" in formal writing. Prestigious publications as The Economist regularly include sentences starting with conjunctions.

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      Sparingly and well applied to add beat, not as an excuse for bad grammar or writing...imo.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lightman View Post
      I actually disagree with the idea that you should not start sentences with "but" or "and" in formal writing. Prestigious publications as The Economist regularly include sentences starting with conjunctions.
      I sort of agree. But it's in formal writing that you are most likely to meet the pedants who insist that because "but" is a conjunction it has to join two parts of a sentence -- as if English were logical! Avoiding constructions that are likely to get you into arguments, even if you're right, makes life easier.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Lightman View Post
      I actually disagree with the idea that you should not start sentences with "but" or "and" in formal writing. Prestigious publications as The Economist regularly include sentences starting with conjunctions.
      Sorry Lightman, but that's not formal writing, that's journalism - however high brow the publiation, journalism has it's own rules.

      Formal writing refers more to academic essays, letters, legal documents etc. I wouldn't use 'But' or 'And' to start a sentence in any of those.

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      Same goes for "so" I think.

      Quote Originally Posted by Cogito View Post
      Even incomplete sentences.
      Somehow, that's very apt...
      No matter what, fatalists will always be fatalists.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Cogito View Post

      But don't overdo it.
      best advice

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      Quote Originally Posted by Nakhti View Post
      Sorry Lightman, but that's not formal writing, that's journalism - however high brow the publiation, journalism has it's own rules.

      Formal writing refers more to academic essays, letters, legal documents etc. I wouldn't use 'But' or 'And' to start a sentence in any of those.
      Yep, that's what I was referring to. As much as I love it, there's no way I'm going to start a sentence with But in my academic essays or research papers. Just follow their guidelines to the T and you'll save yourself a lot of heartache.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Nakhti View Post
      Sorry Lightman, but that's not formal writing, that's journalism - however high brow the publiation, journalism has it's own rules.

      Formal writing refers more to academic essays, letters, legal documents etc. I wouldn't use 'But' or 'And' to start a sentence in any of those.
      I've noticed, by the way, that nobody likes reading formal writing. Maybe formal writing should loosen up. The way it is, it has probably outlived its usefulness.

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      Quote Originally Posted by minstrel View Post
      I've noticed, by the way, that nobody likes reading formal writing. Maybe formal writing should loosen up. The way it is, it has probably outlived its usefulness.
      I love this.

      Unfortunately, while no one enjoys reading essays, legal documents, scientific papers etc, they have strict guidelines for a reason.
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      Formal writing serves a purpose. It exercises and exposes logical analysis. The formal structure makes it more difficult to slip in sloppy or emotion-based reasoning without it being clear to the reader. It is a disciplined form of writing that remains powerful for the purposes it us used for.

      It has not outlived its usefulness at all. I will, however, agree that frowning on beginning sentences with conjunctions may be carrying formal grammar further than is necessary.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Cogito View Post
      Formal writing serves a purpose. It exercises and exposes logical analysis. The formal structure makes it more difficult to slip in sloppy or emotion-based reasoning without it being clear to the reader. It is a disciplined form of writing that remains powerful for the purposes it us used for.

      It has not outlived its usefulness at all. I will, however, agree that frowning on beginning sentences with conjunctions may be carrying formal grammar further than is necessary.
      Seconded.
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      Thanks for the replies, everyone.

      Quote Originally Posted by minstrel View Post
      I've noticed, by the way, that nobody likes reading formal writing. Maybe formal writing should loosen up. The way it is, it has probably outlived its usefulness.
      It would be nice if formal writing loosened up. Sometimes, I feel like formal writers want to make me believe in their opinion by using big words to impress me. Nobody appreciates being preached upon.

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      Quote Originally Posted by marcuslam View Post
      Thanks for the replies, everyone.



      It would be nice if formal writing loosened up. Sometimes, I feel like formal writers want to make me believe in their opinion by using big words to impress me. Nobody appreciates being preached upon.
      It depends what you mean. If you mean that formal writing is sometimes used where less formal writing would be more appropriate then I agree. If you think that some academic writers use more complex language than is necessary to communicate their ideas accurately then you are correct, but the purpose of such writing isn't just to communicate ideas accurately; it's also to indicate membership of a community in the same way as street slang does. And then there's the sort of writing I do for work. I try to make it easy to read but I'm conscious that it could end up being picked over in court at an inquest or public enquiry (I do aviation safety cases) so I have to write with a sort of pedantry and precision that can be frustrating.
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