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    According to Stephen Hawking, black holes as we currently understand them do not exist.

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    The man can barely move a voluntary muscle and yet has the power to rustle the jimmies of the universe. He is Awesome. Not the quality, but the thing itself. :)
     
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    I saw him in person once when he was here in Seattle. I was amazed that there were several people out front of the venue with signs: "Tickets wanted". I felt very privileged.

    I think the black hole issue was briefly mentioned on the biographical documentary recently shown on Hawking. That was amazing as well, the program focused on his life more than his work.

    Seems to me he said something like the event horizon was different than previously thought, but it wasn't that the super-dense material of collapsed matter didn't exist.

    Ah, looking at the link, I see my memory was correct.
     
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    Looks like everything I read in A Brief History of Time is wrong. I patiently await the sequel, Mr. Hawking.
     
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    So, the Earth is not going to be sucked into a black hole? That's a load off my mind. I'm going to sleep now, have a good night all. :)
     
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    God these guys thing on a whole other level...
     
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    i'm not at all surprised, since i have always taken the claim that they do with a full box of morton's... if anyone can be relied upon for educated guesses in such matters, hawking is 'the one'!... wish we could have seen him and einstein chatting about it all...
     
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    Hawking's a badass, no doubt about it.
     
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    This is a Truth! ;)
     
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    Hawking could be wrong about this, too. Some astrophysicists have argued that the firewall paradox isn't a paradox at all. At this point, pretty much anyone could be right.
     
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    and everyone could be way wrong!
     
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    Came across this poem today and thought this would be the best place to share it.
     
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    bravo, walt!

    and you, tw, for posting this bit of wisdom that perfectly presents my pov on the issue of "known facts" and "experts'" theories about the universe...
     
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    SOLVED! Sort of. It relies on the theory of The Big Bounce, which I had understood was widely discredited.
     
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    I don't think that theory has been discredited because I'm pretty sure @AJC supports it. Maybe he can clarify.
     
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    Does dark matter still exist? Oh wait, is that only a comic book idea?
     
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    Fav Whitman :)
     
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    The theory mentioned in the article is different from the original cyclic theory from the middle of the 20th century. The latter has been tossed.

    That's a good poem by the way. I've never read Walt Whitman before.
     
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    New evidence for the Big Bang and for inflation in particular. Gravitational waves have been detected, though there are still some skeptics out there because the results could be interpreted in different ways.
     
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    This is interesting news indeed. I'm most excited about the possible detection of gravitational waves, but it still needs to go through the peer review process. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
     
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    Peer review process? I thought money dictates which results are correct and which ones aren't. :p
     
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    This sometimes does happen, which is unfortunate to say the least. I've seen this happen for studies involving nicotine, cell phones, and climate change. This sort of thing doesn't happen in theoretical physics, however. I don't think there's any money to be made over the fact that space is stringy over loopy, or vice versa. :p
     

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