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    Belgium approves euthanasia for kids

    Discussion in 'Debate Room' started by thirdwind, Feb 13, 2014.

    This only applies to kids with terminal illnesses who are "suffering beyond any medical help" (see link below). There are strict rules about this, too. The kids have to request euthanasia and must prove that they understand their choice. As you can imagine, this has some people up in arms. Personally, I support Belgium's decision. If a child is going to suffer the rest of his/her short life, he/she should be given the option to die.

    You can read more about this here.
     
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    Wouldn't that be eutheneurope?
     
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    So a kid can't drink, watch R movies, or get married, but they can decide if they want to die? I think they need to change a lot of laws.
     
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    The right to life is more fundamental than the right to drink, watch an R-rated movie, or get married.
     
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    But do children really know what they're doing? You aren't fully mature until you hit your early- to mid-twenties. How can children decide such an important thing? Going to bed now, so I can't reply sorry. :oops:
     
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    Since when is suicide dignified?
     
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    It's anticipated that adolescents will be the only "children" requesting euthanasia. I believe parents are also required to give consent. I think children know what they're doing. I remember reading that a child begins to understand the concept, and finality, of death when he/she is 6 or 7.

    Since people realized that it's better to die than to live in constant pain.
     
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    I find as much dignity in suicide as I do in being on the receiving end of a donkey show in Nuevo Laredo
     
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    So if your child had some painful disease and only a few months to live, you'd let him live in constant pain rather than end his life?
     
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    I don't believe in suicide
     
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    Is it for religious reasons?
     
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    It's a relative concept. It isn't usually dignified, but if the alternative is even less dignified, then suicide is the more dignified option.
     
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    Not because of some written scripture, but it would be untruthful to say that my relationship with God does not affect my outlook on life and my philosophies. Although, before a gracious Hand caught me from hitting rock bottom, I still had the same beliefs about suicide when I wandered alone.
    I choose life every day my brain is alive. I don't see pain as a deterrent to living
     
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    How is living in pain less dignified than quitting life? Anybody can quit.
     
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    Ever been paralyzed, needing a machine to breathe? Ever need to have a nurse squeeze your guts to force your shit out? Ever need to be fed through a tube? Ever been utterly unable to do anything to help yourself, and still have excruciating, constant pain on top of that? Ever feel like you're in such a hell that you can't imagine facing the next minute, let alone the next day?

    I didn't think so.
     
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    Have you?
    We have all seen pain and suffering, some of us more than others. Don't be so pretentious that you can tell me how to feel should I cross that road.
     
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    I still don't see where dignity comes into play, only where it leaves
     
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    I'm not telling you how to feel. I'm justifying the decisions others make when they're in situations like that. You have no experience with it, so you speak from a position of ignorance. As do I, thank goodness, but I don't condemn suffering people for the choices they make.
     
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    I have seen both sides with people very close. One of the most awesome things I got to witness was my uncle taking six years to die from ALS. Never have I seen a family come together with such strength and love. There is no coming back from that diagnosis. Had he opted out, his daughters would not have received the gift they did
     
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    The choice to end one's life prematurely to avoid a long and painful end of life is an individual choice. It's not for anyone but the chooser to make a judgement on its morality. All the court did was give a group of people another option. They do not have to take that option.
     
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    When I tore my ACL, it was the most pain I've ever felt. I'm trying to imagine that same pain throughout my whole body and me having to endure that for months. I could easily see myself going crazy if I had to deal with that for more than a day or two. There really are some things worse than death.
     
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    Try complicated hemorrhoidectomy with a natural resistance to opiates
     
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    I had a splinter once... It was a big one.
     
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    and you're still here with us today?!?!
     
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    Yeah, I'd say the physical therapy was the easy part, but dealing with the emotional trauma of the condition was daunting. :(
     
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