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    Censorship Pyongyang Style

    Discussion in 'Debate Room' started by Fitzroy Zeph, Dec 18, 2014.

    I can't say that I'd be running to see The Interview IF it was released, but, having some whack-job dictate its future doesn't sit that well with me. What do you think, should Sony have pulled it or not, in light of the 9-11 like threats?
     
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    They shouldn't have. Maybe they'll sell the rights to a company with a backbone.
     
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    It does make one wonder, do we have N Korean operatives here in the country? That's a creepy thought. Makes me want to see the movie so I do hope it comes out on DVD at least.
     
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    More fallout.
    Steve Carell's North Korea movie from Guy Delisle novel scrapped after Sony hack
     
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    With all this publicity, let's hope that at some point in time the crime backfires and we all get to see The Interview and laugh at them making fun of Kim Jong Un.
     
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    North Korea don't seem interested in making friends, do they? (My candidate for understatement of 2014). Seriously, though, this story is rather creepy. @GingerCoffee, I hope you are right.
     
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    North Korea is a very interesting country. I have been reading a lot about North Korea recently so this attack wasn't as big of a surprise. Poor country but rich propaganda organisation. One book especially called Dear Leader.
    I read an article about NK agents dealing with some hackers in SK a while ago but I can't find it right now.
    They most likely have people from China and SK helping them.
    China could do much worse but they have no need to.
    Hacking is really the last way to attack the west because their army is not a threat.
    People at Sony should be ashamed. This is just what they want. They'll do it again.

    http://www.dailynk.com/ is a good source if you want to get to know the country deeper.
     
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    This is interesting.
    Bold is mine.
     
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    I noticed the Obama has issued a statement saying that Sony made a mistake pulling the film. It's not the first time I have agreed with Obama.
     
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    I'm amazed they didn't do this over Team America.
     
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    Sony CEO is trying to blame the theaters for it, now. Sounds like an act worthy of Mustela nivalis.
     
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    Jong-Il had an sense of humor.
    He didn't like it though.
     
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    Also, Team America is very funny; apparently this film is dire.
     
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    But what if the uproar over this film has nothing to do with this film as an attack with N.K. as the object of the attack and the U.S. as the attacker? What if the dynamic is reversed and Jong-Un actually doesn't give a flying flippity about this film and it's just him making use of (not being attacked by) this film to further his internal and foreign policy?



    http://www.vox.com/2014/12/19/7421535/the-real-reason-north-korea-would-hack-sony-its-not-the-interview
     
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    I can't help but find this article a little rediculous when it says NK's main agenda is to create hostility and tension with U.S, considering we are the ones with the movie rediculing their leader.
     
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    I'm not sure, North Korea has a history of doing some pretty stupid shit just to annoy the Americans. It wasn't too long ago North Korea successfully tested it's own atomic bomb, fired shells into South Korean waters, and fired missiles into the Sea of Japan.
     
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    I thought the roots to this was N Korean antipathy to the Japanese - the Sony corporation. Japan doesn't recognise N Korea as a sovereign state.
     
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    It could be the NK equivalent of Nigerian Yellow Cake of the Bush era.
     
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    I would love to know what the news coverage is of this in Japan.
     
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    The premise is sound. The event of this film and NK's reaction to it cannot be viewed in a vacuum. It's part of a history of events and agendas. If I were attempting to maintain the policies that Jong-Un maintains, this film isn't an attack that I take emotionally and stupidly to heart, it's a tool I use smartly in the furtherance of the things that I actually care about, shitty as those things may be when viewed with foreign eyes. He's not a complete idiot, and he's very much an Alpha Male. An Alpha Male turns any threat from betas back around on them and lets them scuffle it out on the edges of the pack, mangy and thin.

    ETA: It doesn't matter what we do with the film. It's a win for him. The tail is wagging the dog. If we pull the film, Jong-Un is vindicated and he made the dirty Americans and Japanese bow to his will. His penis occludes the sun in its gargantuan might! If we play the film, then it fuels his songun policy and we are exactly who he keeps telling his people we are. He wins either way. He's not interested in us appeasing him or not appeasing. He's interested in leveraging the situation to his favor in all directions, something he and daddy have shown a talent for.
     
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    It would be more than a little ironic if the whole thing was a ploy, set up by the CIA, and sanctioned by the government, as an excuse to go in and assassinate the leader of North Korea.
     
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    Now there's your movie! :agreed:
     
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    There is some great material for a really twisted plot here:

    Whodunnit: CIA? NK? Teenage hacker?

    Or: Google and their New World Order?
     
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    what was the actual threat? What exactly did NK threaten? And seeing as they've denied everything, how do we know there was a threat? Its all bullshit
     
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    They are apparently blackmailing Sony, threatening to release more of what they found. While we don't know all of what that is, we do know some of it is the identity details from Sony's employee records. That means if you work or worked for Sony all of your personal identity-theft-ready information could be released to the Web where criminals are waiting to steal from your bank account and use your credit cards.

    My son just had $100 taken from his bank account because someone stole his debit card and pin number when he used the card at a restaurant for lunch. Several of his co-workers were also hit. So identity theft is a real issue here.

    The most recent threat from NK directly is of an attack on the US web sites, the banks and the energy grid. I have no idea if that is an idle threat or a real potential, but cybercrime is not a minor matter.
     
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