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    Chapter writing

    Discussion in 'General Writing' started by RogerDodge, Mar 21, 2015.

    I am on a chapter and about half way the first day ends, then it starts again the next day.
    So the next day follows on in the story but I do not wont to start a second chapter but like to tell the reader there was a break.
    Ok I will put it another way.
    The man offers the young couple a job but the job is two hours drive away so decides to go tomorrow.
    Break....
    Tomorrow comes and they all go to see the new job.
    The job is managing a new shop.
    Its the break bit.
     
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    No problem having separate scenes in the same chapter; just insert a line space between them. It's customary to mark it with a # sign in the manuscript so you or an editor don't inadvertently close it up.

    This is a valid question, but it would go better under General Writing. You can ask a moderator to shift it. :agreed:
     
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    I'd say the same thing as Catrin. Insert an empty line with a centred hash character on it to indicate the scene break. Here's an example:
    (The hash should be centred but the forum software doesn't support that.)


    Done. ;)
     
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    It the little things that get me.
    Thanks for all your help.
    Thanks mod for moving post.
     
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    You just been schooled, son.

    Actually, the forum software, with copy/pasting, adds a lot of weird BBcode for no reason which can easily mess up the format of a post. You really just gotta click on the little wrench and manually change/add code so it doesn't auto-format.
     
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    I was looking for a centre-text button and missed the "align left"-looking drop-down... :(
     
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    I put the hash sign in and cantered it.
    It looks great, now finished chapter 22, well sort of.
     
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    My only caveat is that you might want to be wear of how/when you break it. The transition should still feel natural, like the readers aren't missing out on anything by jumping to tomorrow. For instance. If there is some tension that could be explored, maybe jumping ahead is not the best idea. Just food for thought. I'm sure you've got it well figured out.
     
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    As other's have said, a line break is the way to go. I'm reading The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss right now, and he does a lot of this. Some times multiple times in a single chapter. He uses the line breaks to indicate time changes and POV changes that he feels fit into the same chapter.
     
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    Just another option to consider: If I'm changing scene/there's a significant break midchapter, I tend to use * to mark it.
    ie:

    blah blah blah
    *​
    blah blah blah

    I've seen it done in other books (Terry Pratchett comes to mind, but he doesn't use 'chapters' exactly) and since I use line breaks to manage my paragraphing, I think it's a clear way to indicate 'significant change occurring' to the reader.
     
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    There are a lot of different ways to indicate this (hash characters, asterisks, dashes, custom symbols/signs), but the standard manuscript format is to use '#'. When the work is published the publisher may change it to something that better fits the theme of the story (if I'm not mistaken).
     
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    Good to know - I'm sure there are thousands of such insights which I look forward to discovering when it's 'find an agent'/publish time!
     
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    There's a resource in the Resource Section about the standard manuscript format for short stories that you might want to check out. Most of the points it brings up apply to novels as well.
     
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    I have a cute idea for an appropriate symbol to indicate my scene breaks in my recently-completed novel, and I'm pretty sure I could get my WordPerfect program to insert it and keep it stable once the file's converted to pdf. But I have to look further into formatting for self-publishing before I know for sure.
     
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    Read some Cormac Mccarthy, he can write weeks away over the course of a couple sentences...then do it again the next paragraph. This is completely acceptable in writing, no chapter break needed.
     
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    The last Skulduggery Pleasant book by Derek Landy has a one line chapter segment at the climax of the novel,but that's a literary tool to make a point about two simultaneously occurring pieces of action.
    Is it necessarily a bad thing to start a new chapter? There's no rule on how many chapters there has to be,are there?
     

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