1. FictionAddict

    FictionAddict New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2011
    Messages:
    122
    Likes Received:
    9
    Location:
    I'm from Holland

    Novel Chapters length

    Discussion in 'Genre Discussions' started by FictionAddict, Feb 11, 2011.

    How long are your chapters?

    My first draft has chapters that goes from 20 to 35 pages in Times New Roman 12, space between lines at 2,0. Is that good length?

    Thank you all for the help, always.
     
  2. Youniquee

    Youniquee (◡‿◡✿) Contributor

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2010
    Messages:
    729
    Likes Received:
    38
    Location:
    Under your bed.
    10-12 pages 3,000 to 7,000 words.
    It doesn't matter about the length. All that matters is that used those words to tell the story. ^^
     
  3. Elgaisma

    Elgaisma Contributor Contributor

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2010
    Messages:
    5,319
    Likes Received:
    97
    In my current work I have chapters ranging from 900 words to 7000 words (may break that one), a chapter is as long as a chapter is but I find 3-5000 words is about where I like them when reading.
     
  4. guamyankee

    guamyankee Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2011
    Messages:
    474
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    Tacoma, Washington
    Yeah, I don't think chapter length is very important. Good transition between paragraphs is probably more important.
     
  5. VM80

    VM80 Contributor Contributor

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2010
    Messages:
    1,209
    Likes Received:
    46
    To the OP - how many words is that?

    I tend to prefer chapters that don't go on too long. Too short is annoying too.
    Happy medium is best. :)
     
  6. guamyankee

    guamyankee Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2011
    Messages:
    474
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    Tacoma, Washington
    Too short is probably better than too long though. I think the mind likes variety on many levels, and maybe chapter length falls subliminally into that category.
     
  7. FictionAddict

    FictionAddict New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2011
    Messages:
    122
    Likes Received:
    9
    Location:
    I'm from Holland
    In one of the chapters that has 20 pages, the number of words is at 5477 until now. I haven't editted it yet.
     
  8. Melzaar the Almighty

    Melzaar the Almighty Contributor Contributor

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2010
    Messages:
    1,789
    Likes Received:
    55
    Location:
    UK
    You know, I don't think I check the length of my chapters ever :p I know my scenes range on average, between 1-3 thousand words, with extremes of under 100 words to over 5,000 if something dramatic is going on... I use, usually, one or two scenes if one of them is long, between chapter breaks, and sometimes 5-10 scenes if there are a lot of little under 1000 word scenes in a sequence. I just go with when it feels natural.
     
  9. mammamaia

    mammamaia nit-picker-in-chief Contributor

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2006
    Messages:
    19,150
    Likes Received:
    1,034
    Location:
    Coquille, Oregon
    individual chapter length or having them all the same size isn't important, as long as they don't get too long... what goes into the chapter is what matters...
     
  10. guamyankee

    guamyankee Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2011
    Messages:
    474
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    Tacoma, Washington
    L. Ron Hubbard would disagree with you. lol.
     
  11. Yoshiko

    Yoshiko Contributor Contributor

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2009
    Messages:
    749
    Likes Received:
    31
    2,000 - 7,000 words.

    It rarely remains consistent throughout. I might try and shorten some chapters in the rewrite but I won't lengthen any unless there's content worth adding.
     
  12. Show

    Show Contributor Contributor

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2008
    Messages:
    1,493
    Likes Received:
    35
    Mine typically average about 5K now with some being shorter and some longer. I've had a few go past 10K and some below 3K.
     
  13. guamyankee

    guamyankee Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2011
    Messages:
    474
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    Tacoma, Washington
    I have one or two chapters that only consist of around 300 words.
     
  14. Edward G

    Edward G Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2010
    Messages:
    247
    Likes Received:
    7
    Location:
    New Orleans area
    The trend in modern fiction is to go with shorter chapters, James Patterson being the most dramatic example. But chapter length is pretty much determined by plot points or changes in setting, or the beginning and ending of a scene. In modern fiction, the trend seems to be toward lots of shorter scenes. We have shorter attention spans these days, I think.

    But then the Gospels are made up of very short chapters, so maybe there's something good about short chapters.

    I read a lot of novels now that I am reviewing them, and I prefer a chapter around 2000-2500 words in length. But to each his own, I suppose.
     
  15. guamyankee

    guamyankee Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2011
    Messages:
    474
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    Tacoma, Washington
    But, have you ever read a book and said to yourself, "That chapter was way too short." I can't honestly say that I've ever thought that.
     
  16. w176

    w176 Contributor Contributor

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2010
    Messages:
    1,064
    Likes Received:
    52
    Location:
    Luleå, Sweden
    I think that the most important thing when it comes to chapters, is that each chapter feels like a meaningful chunk of story. As long as that is delivered, and the chapter length fits the audience you aim for (a easy read book, or a book for children or young adults might prefer shorter chapters) I think the chapter length can vary greatly without anyone noticing.
     
  17. mammamaia

    mammamaia nit-picker-in-chief Contributor

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2006
    Messages:
    19,150
    Likes Received:
    1,034
    Location:
    Coquille, Oregon
    from the grave?!
     
  18. guamyankee

    guamyankee Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2011
    Messages:
    474
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    Tacoma, Washington
    I was just using a roundabout way of saying I don't like L. Ron Hubbard's writing. I should have just quoted "what goes into the chapter is what matters."
     
  19. Henry The Purple

    Henry The Purple Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2009
    Messages:
    318
    Likes Received:
    1
    Will vary depending on what you are trying to achieve, be it one page or fifty.
     
  20. mammamaia

    mammamaia nit-picker-in-chief Contributor

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2006
    Messages:
    19,150
    Likes Received:
    1,034
    Location:
    Coquille, Oregon
    i knew you were kidding, gy... was just joshing you back... fyi, i can't stand his stuff, either... and james patterson's 1-2 page chapters are annoying as bleep... plus waste a lot of paper and are a cheesy way to plump up his too-short mss... with regular sized chapters, his novels would be novelettes!
     
  21. guamyankee

    guamyankee Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2011
    Messages:
    474
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    Tacoma, Washington
    Oh, ok, ha ha. I've looked at James Patterson books but never got interested enough to read one.
     
  22. Eurlo

    Eurlo Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2011
    Messages:
    318
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Not telling
    I have a 5 page chapter, is this too short? I dont want to bother with a word count, so give me your opinion please!

    Also my prologue is 2 pages.
    Too long or too short?
     
  23. Banzai

    Banzai One-time Mod, but on the road to recovery Contributor

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2007
    Messages:
    12,834
    Likes Received:
    151
    Location:
    Reading, UK
    The basic answer to this is that chapters should be as long or as short as they need to be. There's no prescribed length for them, I've seen chapters that have been fifty pages, and I've seen chapters that have been a couple of words. It's less about the length, but more about where the chapter breaks fall. If you read and write enough then you'll get a feel for chapters being enclosed scenes and ideas, and get a natural sense for where such break should fall in your story- more an organic process than a box ticking exercise.

    And in response to your "don't want to bother with the word count" statement, I think I should explain why word count is used in writing. Your measurements (5 pages and 2 pages) mean absolutely nothing to me. I don't know how big a page you're using, what font size, what font, how big the margins are. Or even if you've handwritten it. Word count gives a measurement not dependent on these factors, and thus which can be assessed more easily when asking questions like this one.
     
  24. Eurlo

    Eurlo Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2011
    Messages:
    318
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Not telling
    well know anywhere that I can copy/paste it all onto for it to count for me?
     
  25. Banzai

    Banzai One-time Mod, but on the road to recovery Contributor

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2007
    Messages:
    12,834
    Likes Received:
    151
    Location:
    Reading, UK
    Does your word processor not include a word count? What word processor are you using?
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice