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    Choosing a title

    Discussion in 'General Writing' started by dreamersky1212, Jul 26, 2015.

    So, I am writing a book about dreamwalkers. People who can not only enter other people's dreams, but alter them. Its a Young Adult book and I hope to make it a series. Its going to be from the point of view of a 17 year old girl who had no idea that dreamwalking was even possible until she literally fell into her baby sister's dream. I have been stewing over what to call it though. Right now my working title is REM. But it doesn't seem to flow like I want it to. What do you think?
     
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    Seems like a pretty cool name. But a name I could think of at the top of my head would be: REM Drifters. Idk. Sounds a little weird after I typed it out. I too have a problem figuring out names, I just put my universe title and then something I think is catchy. Hell I don't even remember how I came up with my book name currently which is "The Darkness Plague: The Innocence of Death".
     
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    Mind Drifters? I was also thinking of something like Unreality or if I do make it into a series then titles that relate to each other. Maybe that have the word conscious in it like Self-Conscious, Unconscious and Subconscious. I like your title though, it has that flow thing that I need.
     
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    Thanks. And yeah I plan to make a trilogy of books all related to one another and then a prequel to my first book (to give an idea of how the MC grew up and why he is what he is). It's always good to have a title that connects in some way. I'm still debating my title.
     
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    My first suggestion is, when deciding what to call it, think about the theme more than the plot mechanism. What do you want people to remember your book as? A book about dreamwalkers? Or the book (note the difference between "a book" and "the book") about the experience of <insert character here>?

    Think about the titles that, when you read or hear them, instantly transport you back into the experience of the stories they identify. Are they so memorable and so evocative because they are clever references to some plot mechanism, or because they make you think about what the stories mean to you personally?

    Also, note that R.E.M. is also the name of a band.
    You might like the title "Reality and Other Falsehoods". It is the title of a book-within-a-video-game, but a Google search for the title only returns about 1,500 results, so I would say it is ripe for the taking.
     
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    "In Your Dreams" ?
     
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    I like REM, it's an excellent name for a 'dreamwalker series'.

    Some other names (no particular order, just names that may apply):

    1. Switched On
    2. DreamWise
    3. Interlaced or Interlocked
    4. Ignite
    5. DreamLand
    6. FortyWinks
    7. Repose
    8. Somnolent
    9. DreamStormer
    10. The Drifter
    11. The Traveler

    Did you know: As you get older, you sleep more lightly and get less deep sleep. Aging is also linked to shorter time spans of sleep, although studies show you still need as much sleep as when you were younger. <-- thus it will be harder to get into the dreams of an older person, because you need deep sleep to dream...
     
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    The Doors of Possibility
    The Beautiful Face of Darkness
    Temporary Timelessness
    Infinite Nothings
    Good Night, <character's name>
     
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    I think this is good advice to an extent. I like Of Mice and Men, which (arguably) cleverly reflects the thematic premise of the book, as @daemon espouses. But I also like Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, because whenever I hear the title I recall that exciting story about Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. Would you have picked a different title @daemon ?

    I reckon your title should suit what you've written. If it's a deeply reflective piece then a profound title might fit the bill. But there's nothing wrong with giving a What-It-Says-on-the-Tin title to something that's more plot- or character-driven. I'm not saying you have to be entirely blunt though. I think The Hunger Games is a good title: it says what it's about, but it's a bit mysterious until you become familiar with the story.

    It leaves a bad taste in my mouth when there's a mismatch between a title and a work's profundity. Twilight conjured up all sorts of promising ideas ("grey areas between truths and lies", "true nature being indeterminable in dim light", "the transition from metaphorical day to night", etc). And then I read the book. Had it been named I Fell in Love with a Sparkly Vampire, I'd have felt that I got what I paid for, and may have been willing to read the sequels. Although it's been a successful franchise, so maybe the real trick is to align your pretensions with those of your audience (no offense intended to anyone: I just have Biting Wit, or so the pretentious fans of my vampire comedy tell me...).

    That probably works the other way too. The feedback I got for Fred the Hedgehog's New Friend was mostly that toddlers just aren't ready for a manifesto about the failings of democracy.

    If you're writing for kids, go with a simple title. Teenage audience: spread the philosophical delusion on thick and you'll please the majority (joking, but worried that it may be somewhat true).

    Anyway, be realistic about what you've written and choose a title accordingly. This advice only reflects my opinions, not the absolute way of the universe. In terms of brainstorming for your story, I like the sound of What She Left In Her Wake, but I have no idea if your story is that wanky ;)

    Please don't call it R.E.M.: I just don't get that title. (A joke about my insomnia, not actually knocking the title. On that note, as someone with a sleep disorder, I may be able to advise on 'how sleep works' if you have any questions.)
     
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    Probably not.

    "<hero's name> and the _____" works well as a pattern for the titles in a series of adventures. It identifies the books as parts of the same series while distinguishing them by the major landmarks in the hero's overarching adventure that they focus on. "Philosopher's Stone" is the natural choice to fill in the blank. Plus, some of the other titles that fit that pattern are actually quite intriguing -- "Chamber of Secrets", "Half-Blood Prince", and "Deathly Hallows" are great phrases to have in a title.
     
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    Keep in mind that if you submit to a publisher and they decide to publish your book, the title could end up being changed for marketing reasons. Also, from a practical point of view, I would focus on finishing the book first and worrying about the title later. It's a lot harder to produce a polished manuscript than it is to come up with a title.
     
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    Procrastibrainstorming? ;)

    Do you mind giving a ballpark figure / % probability on the original title as designed by the author being used?

    How many of your books' titles were changed by the publisher?
     
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    I like Dream Walkers for a title.
     
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    Yeah but Dream Walkers sounds normal and just kind of eh. Idk for me REM Drifters seems more interesting and would catch my eye a lot more than Dream Walkers.
     
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    REM is a great start.

    The idea I had was something along the lines of, "Sandman".

    Is that still a thing?

     
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    Dreamscape

    There are apparently 5 levels of brain waves, from alpha, beta, theta (dreaming), delta and gamma: http://www.mind-your-reality.com/brain_waves.html#Part_2

    Riding the Theta Waves
    Theta wave landscape
    Theta scape
    Theta state
    Theta people

    With @Sifunkle's permission, I would like to suggest:

    Theta twilight


    :supergrin:
     
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    Every time I hear that song I think of the movie "Crybaby." I think that bringing the sandman into it would be a cool idea. But as of now my bad guys are the Mara (creatures that give you nightmares by sitting on your chest) they are actually where the term Nightmare comes from. My MC is going to join a group of dreamwalkers who fight the Mara. So I was actually thinking of adding that to the title like...

    <Insert Main Title> : Book 1 of the Dream Protectorate Series
     
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    I like it. :agreed:
     
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    Don't know what the answer is to this one. I wouldn't even know where to look for this statistic.

    I haven't published any books, but I know a few other members have. Maybe they can share their experiences.
     
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    Apologies I think I have misread / confused your forum name with another. :oops:
     

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