Commas, or why I use them to editor's chagrin

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  1. big soft moose

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    Heinlien generally uses correct punctuation and grammar unless he is deliberately choosing not to for plot reasons (per TMIHAM discussed earlier)

    That aside the reason this thread 'became hostile' (and TBH Ive seen more hostility from a carebear) was when you started talking cobblers about art - misusing punctuation because you don't know any better is not an artistic choice, chosing not to follow rules you understand is but I see no sign that you're doing that (Picasso for example was able to draw an anatomically correct face, he didnt draw both eyes the same side of the nose out of ignorance)

    Oh and by the way its a witch hunt not a which hunt, unless you asking which hunt has the most witches

    (per my earlier post my spag is all over the place - but my intention is to fix it before publication, not make excuses for it)
     
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    Exactly.

    And BTW, @big soft moose, if you were to clean up the SPaG in this post, I imagine you'd supply the apostrophe in "cobblers"! Hee. :supercheeky:
     
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    Well I would if it had one but it doesn't - it's a load of old cobblers - a number of aged shoe makers sat arround talking rubbish, not a load of stuff belonging to a single cobbler :p
     
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    That ain't what I read. Cockney rhyming slang, with the very important word "awls" left out. (I leave it to you to work out what word that rhymes with. lol)
     
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    There's a nascent nursery rhyme here somewhere.

    Which witch hunt hunts which witch, or
    That witch hunt which hunts witches which hunt witches.

    Er...or something. Anyone channeling mother goose?
     
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    Actually not Mother Goose, but this made me think of that sentence English teachers sometimes deploy to show their young pupils how strange English is. The one which is just the word "buffalo" a bunch of times.

    This one: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
     
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    or through, though, plough, thought, enough
     
  8. Iain Aschendale

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    Or the sentence that uses "and" five times in a row.
     
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    If it really is "a load of old cobbler's/cobblers..." surely there need to be more cobblers than one (otherwise it would be a pair of old cobbler's/cobblers), so it should be...

    A load of old cobblers'...

    Signed, UN Peace Envoy.
     
  11. big soft moose

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    no thats the one the wife uses, and you didnt put the dustbin out, and you didnt do the washing up, and.....
     
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    Close, and we may be married to the same woman.

    A man decided to open a pub, and using all of his creativity and individuality, names it "Pig and Whistle". He hired a local sign painter, and told him what he wanted painted over the phone. When he got to the pub, however, the sign outside said:

    PigandWhistle

    with no spaces between any of the words. He grabbed the sign painter and said, "You idiot, you need to put a space between Pig and and, and and and Whistle!"
     
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    I am a coma nut. I use commas because it reminds me when a person is talking and takes a breath, but keeps on talking. We then do not use grammar words. It is my handicap to understand grammar. As I have said, I am a sentence nut and editor as well. If the reader can understand the writer, then the reader got what he/she wrote. Nothing against grammar, like a patient in a wheel chair, they use it instead if they cannot walk. Thoughts on my writing? Chat one
     
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    You're an editor? Is that what you said?

    In English? That's not meant to be a criticism - your English is probably better than my writing in any language other than my own. But I think a better understanding of English grammar would definitely help with your communication skills.
     
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    You seem unclear on what grammar is. Of course you use grammar. Saying that you don't is like saying that you sing but you don't use a voice.
     
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    I am unable to understand verbs and nouns. I am trying to use sentence order within sentences and paragraphs instead of grammar, I do understand what it is to a point, which is very little. Chat one
     
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    I just found out sentence construction is grammar and I didn't understand it until now. I like editing which you call
    critiquing. Thank you. Chat One
     
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    You are able. Everyone can understand anything. What you lack is either an explanation that helps you (in which case, keep looking and asking), or motivation.

    If you lack motivation, then feel free to ignore this stuff. What's a phrasal noun? An auxiliary verb? Verb conjugation? Don't pretend, though, that you're incapable. That's deliberate ignorance without even the balls to admit it.
     
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    That's deliberate ignorance without even the balls to admit it. Then I am ignorant, beside I forget my user name as well. writing one
     
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    I forget my user name is writing one
    I said Chat one
     
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    Commas are nothing to do with taking breaths.
     
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    Well, in singing, sometimes. Not always. But better on them than in the middle of a phrase. lol
     

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