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    Creative Writing 1001

    Discussion in 'General Writing' started by jonblonde, Aug 23, 2016.

    hey guys,

    after doing some considering on how to go about it, have decided to try a hand at participating in a "creative writing" course via PDF file on my site. the idea is to continually update and refine the document.

    wanted to post the entries here as well and hear what the community thinks about this.

    keep in mind -

    1. am no way am i some kind of "authority" on creative writing. these are just some learnings i've gathered along the way.
    2. just getting started with this... the lessons are very "beta" as of now. with that, please let me know if you've some insight on improving the direction.

    thanks!

    jon

    “to be a Writer, or not to be a Writer?
    that is a question,
    but can one be saved?”

    “become a Jedi, one must. there is no other way.”

    “open. live and love. dare.”

    “the Reader's time—a Diamond in the Rough.”

    “Tortoise and the Hare.”

    “is there Value in Vision?”

    “no sentence, but the word. no word, but the letter. no letter, but the—”

    “KISS. Keep It Super Simple. And yet, KISS has two 'S'S”

    “there is the outline. there is the story. in essence, what is the 140 character difference?”

    “allude. number the stars. connect the dots. cat's cradle. yikes.”

    “make believe is make believe. experience is real.”

    “to be continued...”​
     
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    Just curious. You say you're participating in a creative writing course, but that it's on your website. Do you mean that you are participating in an established course and posting your writing for it on your site, or that this is, in fact, your course?

    Oh, and "KISS" stands for "Keep it simple, stupid."
     
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    I'm confused as well. Do you mean you're giving a creative writing course? If so, I'm a bit concerned about the part where you admit you are in way an authority--why would someone want to take a course from you?

    If you mean you're going to post some ideas about writing and invite discussion, I can see that being interesting, but, really--it's what already happens here and on other writing forums across the internet. Why would people be drawn to your blog?

    Yup. Confused.
     
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    Hey Jon -- You might want to start using proper grammar like capital letters at the start of your sentences if you want people to take your efforts to teach creative writing seriously. That being said, I agree with the others that admitting you are not an authority or expert in the field of creative writing likely means you might not be at the level to teach a creative writing course. When I've taken creative writing courses either in person or online, I look up the instructor and try to read his or her published work before taking the course. I think it's kind of a smart move to know where a writing instructor is coming from and what his or her writing is like before I decide to drop time and or money to take a course. Even when it comes to reading books on writing, I like to know the authors work and what their writing is like before I invest my time in reading their advice to other writers.

    I don't know your background and what has made you feel like you want to do this. For me, I have the qualifications in terms of the degrees to teach creative writing at a university level. But I would feel like such a fraud. It's not that I've had no success with writing and publishing, but I'm nowhere near where I would need to be in order to be comfortable teaching creative writing. Also, the teaching thing really isn't my thing. At least I feel that way for now.

    I think I kind of understand the model you're going for because I have taken a few online writing classes. But your lesson titles don't clearly indicate what the lessons are about. That right there is a problem. However, you might want to take a few of these online courses before you try to put your own out there. I can recommend Gotham classes. They are kind of on the pricy side, but the one I took was so good that I can honestly say it changed my life. I had done my research on the different instructors. If I hadn't done that, I would not have taken the course I did. Because of who was teaching it, I decided to take a beginner class. I clearly wasn't the only one who thought that way because when I read what people wrote for the workshop portion of the class, most of it was pretty good and not what I would expect from beginners. But, for real, it was a life-changing experience.

    Back to the model... Besides the workshop component, each week a new lesson was posted and the students could comment or ask questions below. They were pretty much craft essays, each on a different aspect of writing. However, reading these lessons, it was clear that the advice was coming from someone who knew what they were talking about.

    Another set of online courses that have a model similar to what I think you are trying to do (and maybe even more so than the Gotham structure) are the online courses offered by One Story. These are a lot cheaper ($50 - $75), but there is no interaction with the instructor and no workshopping. I enjoyed these, but I can't call them life-changing like I said for the Gotham course I took. Still, I will probably take another one at some point. I found the lessons and guidance insightful and the whole thing kind of fun. Included in the text of the lessons were some videos. I really liked having those along side the text. Keep in mind, we are talking about writing advice from Hannah Tinti with the One Story courses, and it's very affordable. These places are going to be your direct competition. I would rather pay $50 to get some writing tips from someone like Hannah Tinti than take the time to read free lessons offered by someone who just doesn't have the writing chops to be teaching in my opinion.
     
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    i was going to post it here if you guys were up for it. just some learnings i've come across and gathered along the way ;)

    yes - i am giving a creative writing course. in other words, it's free. to be clear, what i posted was that i AM NOT an authority on creative writing. these are just some ideas - nothing more than ideas that may or may not inspire insight. "posting some ideas about writing and inviting discussion," - as you put it - is the only thing i intend to do here. i know it already happens on this forum, but that is why i've decided to participate in this community. (thought that's why we were all here - to interact on creative writing) i AM NOT trying to "start something," just posting and hoping to learn from feedback how maybe we can all go about arranging some of these in a fashion that is indeed, more accessible. (just started organizing these yesterday...) as far as "why people be drawn to my blog" ... no one is, nor should be drawn to my blog. (my blog sucks) what i said is i'm compiling the list of these "learnings" via PDF that i am putting on my site - that is all. however, i was going to post them here as well, just for interaction sake + to see what we can learn together...

    as for deadrats' post, i will plan on responding to it at a later time today when i have a chance ... have to be running to work. thanks for the feedback though guys. will work on being more clear.

    jon
     
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    Just an opinion - as @BayView pointed out, we compare and contrast ideas on writing all the time. Some of our members are published writers but most are not. We are therefore more like a study group than anything else. Sharing ideas is fine. It's what we do. But to call your participation in that "giving a course" is, if I may say so, a bit presumptuous. It suggests a level of knowledge and authority that, by your own admission, you don't possess.
     
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    First, learn what capitalization is and how to use it. Basics come first.
     
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    have been doing some thinking today about some of the feedback i've received. thanks for sharing all of your insights. have decided that maybe it is best to rework some of my methods... maybe do a better job listening. wish you all the best in your creative writing efforts
     
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    and just to clarify - "is simple" may be a better way of phrasing
     
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    Creative Writing 1001
    holy shit, how advanced is that? An intro class would be 101
     
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    ha. not that advanced. maybe you'd end up scratching together some daily diddie's as so:

    New Shade Of You

    been dull?
    out of place?
    does it feel
    to be the case
    you've been walking 'round
    for miles
    in some other body's shoes?

    been there.
    suffered that.
    crossed paths with a solution —

    get ready
    set
    go try on
    a
    new shade of you —

    step 1:
    see mirror.

    step 2:
    step through.
    become one with reflection.
    once centered, stay true.

    next thing one want to do,
    is
    align thy values.
    for instance —
    fathom Purpose.
    define Mission.
    create Legacy.
    be
    Health
    unto self —
    unto family and community.

    when in doubt,
    do for others.
    do well to enjoy the ride.
    when in doubt,
    think humanity.
    welcome to the otherside.

    ***

    (just the day's blog posting)

    jon
     
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    Yeah, if I read that on a how-to-write site, I'd be... confused. At best.
     

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