Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by WhoWatchesTheWatchmen?, Jul 25, 2008.
Batman: The Dark Knight is nothing but pure genius. That's all there is to it. 5/5 Stars.
Best. Movie. This. Year.
Simply put: Best. Movie. This. Year.
Want me to repeat it?
Oh, all right. Best. Movie. This. Year.
It was great. Ledger's performance astounded me and the whole plot-how it progressed-kept me wanting more. I kind of hated it when it ended; i wanted more.
It was a very good film, I must admit. It was a little hurt by all the little kids in the theatre, and I would have made it a 15 just to keep them out, but definitely one of the best films of the year.
I was very impressed with it. I think most of the hype, however, is purely because of Heath Ledgers death. However, his performance was pure genius and I think that there would be no possible way to imitate that in a sequel.
Personally, I believe Christian Bale makes a wonderful Bruce Wayne, but he's only an 'Okay' Batman. He does wonderful when he screams and yells. Definitely a Batman. However, when he slows down, or just talks as Batman, he has a slight lisp, and whispers too much in his 'Dark Voice' and it doesn't fit him.
As a Bruce Wayne, he's my favorite. No better out there. Batman, he could work on it a bit.
I'm trying to figure out who is going to be the villain in the next one.
I've seen the movie three times so far, three times all before the fourth day marker.
I've tried to see it twice but both times it was sold out. I liked batman begins.
Yeah, I especially despise his Batman voice. But I got used to it. It's actually, after I thought about it, no big deal. It's more unique than other Batmans, and at least it covers his REAL voice.
I reckon the next villain will be the Penguin, probably...
I would want the Riddler. But I suppose that's too similar to Joker...
yeah it was awesome, i like how each character embodied a different philosophy. that bat voice did get on my nerves a little though. there were a couple of scenes where i couldn't understand what he was saying.
EDIT- the next batvillians should be Catwoman and Poison Ivy
Riddler AND the Penguin!
No, no, overstuffing the movie with more villains is NOT a good idea. A good example of one movie is... Spiderman 3!
I like it when it's one on one. Villains get more background info.
I don't really like either of those, but Catwoman seems imminent.
To be honest, I want Ragdoll, which means I also need (but don't want) Catwoman. Black Mask would be good, too. And of course, if we're talking bigger villain names: The Riddler.
It's unfortunate Arnie ruined Mr. Freeze.
The Riddler gets my vote. And with the way Ledger redid the Joker, I think they would be able to have sufficient differences. (For some reason, I'd really like to see Jim Carrey retake that role and do it in a dark, comedic way.)
Actually, I didn't think the guy playing Harvey Dent would be able to pull off Two-Face, but I was pleasantly (erk! Maybe gruesomely?) surprised when he did.
My favorite Batman/Bruce Wayne has always been the original one, but this is a close second.
Definitely best movie of the year up to this point. Ledger was great. Bale is the best Bruce Wayne, but just an okay Batman. Aaron Eckhart I really liked as Harvey Dent, but felt he lacked a little as Two-face, also he should've worn a white suit, so part of it got burned. That way we get the Two-face look.
I don't think Two-face is dead. Batman survives the fall, but the bad guy doesn't; a little weak. The opening to the film was fantastic, which also added to the "weak" ending.
Poison Ivy- is one of the greatest batman villains ever. As if her beliefs in saving the environment and devoting her life to plants and the ecosystem didn't alienate her from people enough, she's involved in a laboratory accident and all of a sudden she's poisonous to others, draws energy from the sun, plus she's a scientific genius. Her slight antisocialism spirals into total disassociation, she denies her humanity and assumes the role of mother nature herself. the only one who can speak-for/defend the earth from human kind and their selfish, shortsighted crimes against nature. Forget the horrible uma thurman portrayal and boldly re-imagine her as the villain she was meant to be. there's a lot to work with there if you think about it. maybe angellina could play her since she's out to save the world.
Catwoman- how can you not like catwoman? she's basically a cross between two-face and batman. A good selfless woman, stepped on all her life no matter how hard she tries, until she survives an attempted murder and her personality snaps in 2. i think michelle pfeiffer (sp?) did a good job...however, halle berry did not. i love the relationship her and batman have, if she's done right it should be a great movie.
MR. Freeze- yeah arnold was horrible, but he didn't ruin the character, he just ruined his career. victor freeze is still a badass. it will be interesting to see how they pull him off in this new reincarnation of the franchise.
Wow, I think you just summed it up for me. I don't like Poison Ivy because I dislike Uma Thurman! And I didn't know any of the character background, so yeah I could see that character.
Catwoman just comes across as a lame character.
Same deal with Freeze. I don't know what I'm talking about, I've never been a real Batman fan. I just don't like the other heroes.
yeah, i'm very passionate about my batvillians. I think, and i know everyone's going to disagree, that george clooney was the best batman, even better than keaton. I'm judging his performance alone, not the entire movie.
I saw the movie last night, and it was stunning.
I saw it at the IMAX. So. Freaking. Amazing.
During that first bank robbery scene, I was totally regretting seeing it at the IMAX- loud noises!- but then I got used to it, and it was all awesomeness from there.
The same could be said about
Harvey's Two-Face face. At first I couldn't look at it, but then I got used to it. Still, I'm glad they killed him off- I don't think they could do another movie with him without retreading The Dark Knight.
I wish there was a much more original way to say that Heath Ledger WAS the Joker in every way imaginable. But there isn't. So. I'll just say Heath Ledger needs an Oscar, and beyond that I can not find the words to express how wonderful he was. The greatest thing about him was how you could laugh yourself silly and then feel really really weird about it- epitomized in the Nurse Joker scene, in which I had the most severe case of the giggles, while being disgusted with myself at the same time.
I thought Maggie Gyllenhall was much better than the old Rachel, but I still thought it disappointing that she played essentially the same character as the one she played in Stranger Than Fiction. Maybe she does that in all movies. I dunno.
Crowning moments of awesome:
Nurse Joker blowing up the hospital
Flipping the bus- and then the batpod
The party scene, specifically the ones with Rachel in danger.
"Billionaire absconds with entire Russian ballet team"
All Alfred dialogue in general.
I loved the music- the action theme was great and could have been used more, but the lack of use meant you just liked it even more; the Joker's theme is especially cool because it's nine minutes consisting entirely of two notes, and it's still totally awesome.
I was surprised at the movie's length, but was even more surprised at how I never got bored. I kept expecting it to be done- 'oh, they caught the Joker, time to- oh, wait, here's this hospital thing, but when this is done we'll- oh, no, now there's the ferry plot and- oh, now we have Two Face, and- phew!' But even when it went through huge setup after setup, I loved every minute of it (despite my bladder's complaints).
So. Yeah. Great movie. Whoo.
Two-Face was killed. He went down backwards, the Dark Knight went down at a slower rate, and had 'blockage' to slow him down.
I think what will most likely happen is they won't play any of the villains from the Batman that had George Clooney in it. Nolen said "remakes" in one of his talks. They've brought the real beginning of what happened with Bruce to life, and redone the first Batman in a new and interesting way. They will probably use a different angle for Cobblepot (The Penguin) since the Cobblepot family and Alfred's family sort of passed a few times in the past. Much like every Batman movie so far, it will probably contain two or more villains. The Dark Knight had four major villains: The Falcone Family, Scarecrow, Two-Face, and the Joker. They all intertwined into one story, and made it flow so well that in the eyes of the viewer, we saw only the Joker, running the show, which was ultimately what happened.
They could easily through the Penguin in there, having something to do with Alfred, since their families had once known each other or something, and have him doing his bank jobs, and maybe show us how smart Batman by having him solve crimes that were done by some of his smart foes, such as The Riddler or The Mad Hatter.
Other names they could redo or give justice to are Bane (The Man That Broke The Bat), Clayface, Catwomen, Killer Croc, Killer Moth, Man-Bat, Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy (I hope not), Hugo Strange, Ventriloquist and Scarface.
Scarecrow had like a five second cameo, lol.
Post some of your favorite quotes from The Dark Knight!
Here's a good one from The Joker:
And the last line:
I just got back from the movie and I have to ask. Since when was batman so cool? The Joker was awsome, and the story, who came up with the story? I never would have thought a superhero movie would put that much moral drama into the story and be able to pull it off so flawlessly. And they didn't even need a giant microwave that defies the laws of physics! (Just so you know, I hated that microwave in batman begins.)
Folks, please keep in mind that not everyone has seen the movie yet, so
Watch The Spoilers!
Shame on them!
Penguin has been ruled out, the director said so in an interview a while ago (if i can find a link i will, dont have the ime though.
Catwomen - errr, after the recent catwomen movie, i hope not.
Lol just my opinion but the villians should be the Penguin, Harley Quinn, and Dr. Strange.
Personally here is who should play them in my opinion
Penguin- Jack Black, just think about it, he can be serious and he truly is a perfect fit.
Harley Quinn- Zoey Deschannel, she has that sorrow about her, and her acting is always done top notch and in a sadistic upbeat manner, and that's what harley is all about.
Hugo Strange- Phillip Seymore Hoffman, just cause the man is a great actor and I think that the way he acts he would truly nail the twisted mind of Hugo Strange
So what do ya think?
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