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    For Those Who Live In A Violent And Unsafe Area, Get Out!

    Discussion in 'Debate Room' started by MainerMikeBrown, Jan 7, 2015.

    I'm sure that if someone lives in a violent, war torn nation, it can be difficult for them to legally move to the United States in search of a better life.

    However, there are many truly good people who already live in America who live in poor, violent neighborhoods.

    I would recommend to any good American who lives in a dangerous neighborhood to move to a safer area.

    Take the town I live in. In the small town in Maine that I've lived in for almost twenty five years, the crime rate is about as low as it gets in the U.S., despite the fact that the town I live in is an economically poor town.

    You don't have to live in a rich town to live in a safe and good town.

    So if you want a better, safer area to live in for yourself as well as your family, moving to a better area is something I'd urge you to do. If you live in a bad area, get out!
     
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    What is it with these threads you start?
     
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    I think they're just trollbombs.

    How are you supposed to get the money to move? Or guarantee a job in your new local? Just moving there might be an option if you don't actually own anything, but there's no way I'm packing a couch into a van and turning into a fucking Romani. No matter how bad my neighborhood is I don't have any guarantee that where I'd find myself in another city wouldn't be worse.
     
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    It's not that easy, @MainerMikeBrown. You live where you have roots. People whose roots are elsewhere cannot so easily move.
     
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    .... Mike, are you aware that people exist who don't have enough money for first, last, and damage deposit, or for that matter even enough to rent a U-Haul? Are you aware that jobs aren't available to anyone just for the asking?

    This makes no sense, no sense at all.
     
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    Are you offering a spare room?
     
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    He did say his town is low crime, I'm sure he wouldn't mind putting you up until you get on your feet. If moving is that easy then helping shouldn't be that hard.

    Edited to add: @MainerMikeBrown's next thread, "Poor people, why don't they just have more money?"
     
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    You're running on the assumption these people have the money, time, and energy to leave to either a different part of a country, or to a wholly different country all together. Where would they be able to live? Could they get a job with enough pay to feed their whole family? Don't even get me started on the latter: becoming a naturalized citizen of another country takes years! That is, if they can even afford it.

    Seriously, Mike. It's not exactly easy to just upend your entire life like that, unless you were filthy rich and could afford seven houses all over the world.
     
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    Why the United States? You'd be surprised how eager people are to stay at home, no matter what happens. It's dumb of course but what can you do..
     
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    Of course, it's their home. Their family likely lived there for centuries, so why would they up and leave because things got messy? Way they likely see it: if their grandparents could tough out their generation's struggles, then so can they. It seems almost cowardly in a sense to pack your things and leave, it's like telling your ancestors you don't have the guts.

    Also, they probably have friends and family who can't leave and decide that no, they need to stay for their sake.

    I don't think it's dumb, it's just human nature. Some leave, some don't and they've got their reasons for it.
     
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    Actually, if Americans are following this advice, they should all move to Japan. The US just ain't that safe. http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/rich-countries/top-10-safest-countries/ (crap source, but apparently based on info from FBI and World Bank).
     
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    That does sound like the most economically viable option.
     
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    Ummm, no, just no. What is naive however, is thinking poor decisions are the key variable acting here.
     
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    IF you followed this line of thought every time it occurred in history, many places would end up abandoned. Look at NYC a couple decades ago, or many large cities for that matter. Even with money and the ability to leave, roots are a very powerful thing.
     
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    If I lived in a real tough, high crime area, I'd find a way to get out and move to a nicer area.

    Sure it can be very difficult to move out of a bad town if that's where you've lived for a long time, or your whole life. But sometimes it's even tougher not to move out of a tough area.
     
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    I think that you value your safety a great deal and find the idea of living in a crime area repugnant. However, I also think that the media, especially now, tends to over report crime and that dangerous areas aren't really all that dangerous.
     
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    With what money?

    I think that you're arguing in the premise that the poor are poor because they don't choose to work hard enough to be less poor. And I think that you're deeply wrong.
     
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    Did I say anything about the veracity of the video? *scrolls up* Nope. I think everyone in the thread except you recognized it as a joke. I can use a smiley face next time if that will help eliminate confusion. Do you prefer :) or :D ?
     
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    Unsafe areas = cheaper to live in.
    for people who are poor or have no education, they can really only afford to live in an less safe area......
     
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    generally speaking people live in those areas because they cant afford to live somewhere better. telling them "i recommend you move somewhere safer" is not in the least bit helpful
     
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