Grrr...what's with the mixup between 'incredible' and 'incredulous?'

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  1. Laurin Kelly

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    I am reading much of this thread in Mary Berry's voice.
     
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    Pardon my ignorance, but who is that?
     
  3. Laurin Kelly

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    She is one of the judges on The Great British Bake Off.
     
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    I don't even know what's American, Canadian, British, Aussie, or Kiwi anymore, since I work with all of them. My immediate colleagues include one Kiwi, about six Australians, two Englishmen and one Englishwoman (is that a word?), one Scotsman, five or six Canadians, and three or four Americans. Plus, we all live and work in Japan, so we get sentences like:

    "Dude, I went to this tabehoudai the other night, really nice yakiniku, but the nomihoudai was only chu-hai and tanre, no real beer. Anyway, it was only like ni sen yen per person, y'all should try it sometime."

    "Cheers, will do."
     
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    Sounds exactly like how my mom speaks at home; casual English with a splattering of foreign words or phrases (maybe with a full dependent clause or two)
     
  6. Iain Aschendale

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    That's how we native speakers of English talk to each other, you should hear the way Mrs. A and I converse.

    But she'd kill me if I gave an example, sorry.
     
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    May I join you? No milk or sugar, if you please. [​IMG]
     
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    Iain Aschendale Lying, dog-faced pony Marine Supporter Contributor

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    "A sit down" sounds like something from a mafia movie. Is this about the Kray brothers?
     
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    @jannert, maybe it's because those misusing these words have grown accustomed all their lives to being told they're incredible. So everything that's not them must be incredulous.

    (Well, I tried.)
     
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    As usual, Chicken Freak comes up with the best examples. A puzzled pie.

    The bit about requiring a metaphorical brain is precisely right. That's it. If it doesn't have a brain, it can't be puzzled or incredulous. As to a wedding being happy or the affair being sad ...I suspect that's a personification of what the wedding or the affair does to the people with brains who have witnessed it. I've never heard of a car being happy or a shower being happy. I think 'happy wedding' is one of those kinds of expressions that gets picked up and used to where it sounds normal—when, grammatically, it's not.

    I'll look up that book.
     
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    Its also slang for going to the toilet ... I often start the day with a nice cup of tea and a sit down :D
     
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    The pie was puzzled. Why had it been removed from the nice warm oven ? Why was a big pink creature sniffing it's hot breath ? puzzlement changed to trepidation as the largest of the pink things lifted a vicious spoon from its rest and lent forward. The pie screamed in terror a gout of steam bursting through its crust as it was slowly disemboweled, vomiting its brown internal juices across the cold ceramic surface....

    The quiche watched incredulous, it had a bad feeling that it might be next.
     
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    In gangster circles we prefer 'The Kray Twins.'

    ...tho' if you were referring to the entire clan @Iain - you might say 'The Kray Brothers...'

    Also I disagree with Moose about 'sitting down' meaning taking a shit. The nation would disintegrate under such bizarre terms/conditions. When I 'sit down' I am not shitting. Just to make that clear to America [and Japan].
     
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    You eat the pie before the quiche?
     
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    You always eat the pie first so it doesn't run away ... the only exception is if there's a haggis in the building, when it is necessary to subdue that first as they prefer to fight rather than flee.

    You also have to be careful if there's a collection of sponge fingers, caned fruit , jelly and cream - they aren't to be trifled with :D
     
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    Okay, I'm dying.... I'm going for a lie down.
     
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    Caned fruit? You cane your fruit? That, sir, is abuse, I say, abuse!
     
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    Or to put it in American terms, "taking a load off" is not the same as dumping one. :D
     
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    I have to echo the sentiment of Superman doing good, and not things being good (meaning nice). Could be a British thing, or it could be the ever-growing vagueness of words that have been attributed by teenagers and gas-bags who want words for every season. "Oh Mabel, thats nice isn't it?" Honestly, I think things are lovely or fantastic, but I do have a habit or throwing around WONDERFUL and/or EXCELLENT for things that are actually quite dull.
     
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    Had plenty of happy showers. Although I suspect that wasn't where you were going with that one.
     
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    The shower wasn't happy. You were. :)
     
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    How does one start the fire under a suspected witch with an electric torch?
     
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    Hey the recipe tells me to beat the egg, I didn't want the fruit to feel left out
     
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    How do you know ? - May be the shower was delighted to see him naked ?
     
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    So you had a lecherous shower?
     

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