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    How does this guy have any support left?

    Discussion in 'Debate Room' started by Steerpike, Aug 15, 2016.

    Trump, that is: http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/14/politics/donald-trump-isis-fight/index.html

    His supporters almost, but not quite, make Clinton's primary supporters look rational. No mean feat. I'd like to be able to talk to maybe 20 or so of Trump's supporters and see firsthand what's driving it.
     
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    If you imagine that Trump and Hillary are really similar, then it begins to make some sense. Many that follow Trump are ignorant of Trump's blatant racism, claiming anyone that call him out on it, is simply being 'overprotective' of Muslims. And the rest actually do mind Muslims entering our country, because human nature leads to blind demagoguery's, especially in times of great migrations of excessively poor peoples. The few instances of terrorism, the lost lives, was enough to polarize the county. Because the media was there to make sure every one of those tragedies was heard throughout the world. Each one left a weight that many could not ignore, and that culminated into a bunch of bigots, who all think they know the answer, and it's obvious. Stop the Muslims. Since not everyone is willing to put as much research into this as say, you or I, then it's inevitable that these people would think this way, as long as the media treats Trump and his reasons like an actual privy candidate.
     
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    Simple. The only other option is Clinton, so they'll listen to whatever comes out of Trump's mouth.
     
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    As between the two, Clinton would be miles better than Trump, even as a corrupt, dishonest, corporatist neocon :)
     
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    A few reasons, and you can divide his supporters up by said reasons.

    1) Clinton is the primary alternative, so they feel trapped. These are the (relatively) rational ones. Trump seems to be actively trying to alienate these people with his ever crazier statements, as the most reasonable of them are drifting to Clinton and Johnson.

    2)They see him as a wrecking ball against the establishment, and any flaws they might see in him are a small price to pay to see the establishment burn. This reason has some overlap with the next one.

    3) They truly believe Trump's promises. These are the hardliners. Some will also agree with his more extreme statements. The ones who don't will block out the craziness. If you confront group three with the truth, they'll angily lash out at you and ignore whatever evidence you brought.

    You know, I used to think the idea that Trump was some sort of plant to sabotage the GOP was a far fetched conspiracy theory, but the longer this goes on the less crazy that theory sounds. As noted in the OP, Trump makes Clinton seem reasonable, and that's no easy feat. Imagine how different this race would be if the Republicans had put up Kasich instead.
     
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    Trump is definitely working for the Clintons.
     
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    I think it's simpler than that. Trump's support is coming from people who are delighted to have a candidate who isn't the stiff offered by the GOP because it's his 'turn'. Dole, McCain, Romney? Please. The Democrats did the same thing with Obama - remember, 2008 was supposed to be Hillary's turn. This year was supposed to be Jeb Bush's turn as the establishment candidate and I haven't had so much fun in years seeing that mope's candidacy crash and burn. Add that to the fact that many of us (me included) honestly believe that Clinton (both of them) belongs in prison rather than the White House and Trump is still holding his own.

     
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