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    I'm really stuck!

    Discussion in 'Erotica' started by erebh, Oct 21, 2013.

    I'm putting this here because I'm hoping our little community might help me out. Feel free to move it if you think you need to :)

    As you may know I'm writing a little erotic story as an experiment; trying to come up with a successful formula, "Aren't we all" I hear you cry. Anyway I've decided on my MC. Sally is a small time private investigator who specialises in honey-traps with her ex boyfriend, Q the erotic moments. However they come across a missing girl and something nags at them to take the case or at least look into it but they get hung up on it and delve deeper so really my new story is a crime thriller with erotic moments. Here's where I am stuck. I have never read a crime thriller and don't intend to start now although I did buy today a Michael Connolly book but it's 600 pages and I really can't be bothered finding out if he's any good.

    Any ideas on where I can go with my missing girl would be appreciated. I'm thinking she's been trafficked, doped up to her eyeballs being touted around some sleazy red light district, other than that my mind is a complete blank. I've been throwing this around my head for over a fortnight and just can't come up with anything that might even sound good.

    I realise I'm not re-inventing the wheel and this story has been done a gazillion times but I read so often here that no ideas are new and it all depends how it is written. I have complete confidence in my writing so long as someone points me onto the right road. Directions please...

    PS; I'm not asking anyone to write it for me, just slap me about the head with a decent idea. Merci.
     
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    Coming at this from the way I go about things, the questions I'd ask are: What purpose does this story element serve—what do you mean to achieve by its inclusion? As this will be, essentially, a crossover piece, just how much emphasis will you be placing on the eroticism? (And I mean eroticism, as opposed to just detailing the sex.) Do you have a firm idea as to the theme of the piece? Who is it aimed at? Without knowing these, it's hard for me to make suggestions.
     
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    Sorry, but this is a terrible strategy. Why would you ever write in a genre you won't read?

    Michael Connolly does put in the occasional erotic scene, although they tend to be fairly low key. In fact, most of the mystery writers I read don't go over the top with sex scenes, although it's possible that is partially because I'm not drawn to more salacious mystery writers.

    Your first resort in any writing problem should be to read similar published materials to see how others do it.

    Go through past issues of Playboy, They often have short stories and novelettes with a crime theme. Even among those, explicitly erotic scenes are fewer than you might expect.
     
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    it's an experiment, it's help I need, in more ways than one...
     
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    Knowing you want to go in the direction of a crime thriller, I'll echo Obsidian's question and ask, in the most general, woolgathery kind of way, how do you picture the eroticism being worked in? If the MC and her hubby are honey-trappers, is the erotica between them two, between their target and the target's trick, all of them... How do you see it playing out?
     
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    Well I think I've a few windows for eroticism. MC (Sally) is still in love with her ex and business partner (Shane). Sally needs to get their 'mark' home and tape the evidence for the mark's wife to be. While she's seducing the mark, she's really looking into the hidden cameras, Shane of course is in the next room watching/recording on his monitor. So while Sally is accommodating her mark, she is really making love to Shane.

    Shane is in love with Sally still but won't re-unite while she is still in that job so he chases everything with a pulse, maybe he sees Sally when with others.

    I think I have my missing girl plot.

    Basically the whole premise of the story is now about the missing girl and how it all ties in with their honey-trap business with sex scenes along the way, so it's not a cross-over or bridge @obsidian_cicatrix . By a couple of definitions here, eroticism is the bits you don't see. Rather than hi-def full frontal, it should be classic chrome or sepia hints at what you're straining to see behind the not-quite-transparent shower curtain, right?
     
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    @erebh The OP made it hard for me to determine what you had in mind already. Personally, I thought the interest, from an erotica stand point, was in the MC's relationship with the ex, and the honey trap idea. When I think Erotica, I don't think purely in terms of bump and grind. Emotions and mindsets are what do it for me, and you have something to work with. I was a bit thrown because you were focusing on the trafficking angle. I needed to know how that would have impacted on the bigger picture, as it felt like a bucket of cold water thinking about it.

    I'm very curious to know how you are going to work her in. What does she bring to the story?
     
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    @obsidian_cicatrix at the moment it's all up in the air. I have the first chapter written and I'm quite happy with it but really I think I'm out of my depth here so it'll probably change at least 18 more times. I'll post the first chapter Wednesday (I'm going fishing in a couple of hours).

    Hopefully by then I'll have more of an idea and I hope you guys might show me the error of my ways - like I said, fish out of water here :)
     
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    @erebh

    I know how that goes. Maybe your fishing trip will give you a bit of time for reflection. Not a whole lot to do while waiting for the illusive bite. Have fun! :D
     
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    BTW, @erebh, though I know you've mentioned not wanting to read the genre, if you break down and figure you'll give it a go, Mieville's The City and the City is an interesting hardboiled read. It's not your typical Mickey Spillane. ;) Think more Mike Hammer takes a case in the Interzone.
     

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