Now while I find most of the criticism about what is and is not an "infodump" to be on target, I think possibly it goes too far in terms of what is in the minds of certain people. I am aware that I am taking the devil's advocate position (again) on here, but sometimes so called "additional" information is a positive to a book and not a negative. I think like most everything, it depends. The general rule is basically to ask first if it is entirely needed? and then, only if it is to show instead of tell wherever possible. But sometimes when I am reading or writing, the text seems to fall somewhere between, or even completely informational based, "telling" and not "showing". However, it is interesting while providing framework for the story, even and especially through the "additional" information. While I must admit I don't always think in the terms of "infodump" when I am reading, one author's work that surely comes to mind as one that some may convict as a repeat offender of this would be the late Douglas Adams. While at times he went too far even for me, I enjoyed most of the so called "excess" information and tangents he included in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. They were interesting, comedic, and generally aided to the feel of the book. Heck, they were a large part of the book. Which hits at my point where in certain books, theses information/substance based parts CAN add to the book's quality, and should be seen as doing just that, and not as something that should be avoided. More so something that should be used with careful application. Or at least done well. Of course by definition the term infodump is a negative one, so I am not defending cases where unneeded info is put forward in a less than appealing fashion or where the book would clearly be better off without it, so certainly no need to post same ol' same ol' replies about that type. I am instead interested here to discuss the wrongful demonizing of substance and interesting information put forth that actually adds to a story, instead of taking away from it, yet the term infodump may still be applied by some to those. Do others here feel that way? Do you know what I am referring to?