1. Smoke Z

    Smoke Z Active Member

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    How often do you write yourself into corners?

    Discussion in 'Plot Development' started by Smoke Z, Apr 13, 2014.

    I've got a general plot where getting from one point to another is a huge stretch, and I've decided that the two major players are antagonistic to each other to the point where the common ground is not something that they can work out.

    It's probably going to take another three tries before I can get them into a room together for civilized discussion. At least I'm not precious about it.
     
  2. KaTrian

    KaTrian A foolish little beast. Contributor

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    Often. Just on Friday, two characters were supposed to talk shop but all they wanted to do was screw. It's like, putting them into the same scene is writing yourself into a corner unless the goal is to write sex. In fact, the moment it was decided they should meet - bang! - hitting a corner.

    This also sometimes happens when you write too smart characters. It's like, how am I gonna get them in trouble now?
     
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    Sometimes I've had to scrap stuff. Other times it's possible to sow the seeds to a solution earlier on in the story. If the metaphorical seed is sown correctly then it will have grown into a tree to help you climb over the wall at the end of your dead end.
     
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    I don't think of it as writing myself into corners, but I'm a pantser, and that means I often take wrong turns. My character relationships are almost always right - I know my characters pretty well before I start - but the plot meanders like an old, slow river, and forms some oxbow lakes that need to be gotten rid of in revision.
     
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    I've had some close calls. Mainly because I write historical fiction, and I'm very picky about my 'real' historical data being correct.

    A few times I've had characters about to do something they could not have done during that time period. A few years later, yes, but not yet. Fortunately I managed to catch these anomalies before writing them into the story. But yoiks...
     
  6. Smoke Z

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    Well, that is my other problem... I have a somewhat-smart character interacting with characters that would either ignore her or eat her under normal circumstances. I've had to install a time-travel plot tumor where everyone knows that she's the Macguffin because someone else they trusted told them so. (The time-travel tumor still needs to be there, but oh gawd I just found a funnier way to play it that might cause the entire current draft to be scrapped.)
     
  7. Lovegrove

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    1. You could have the two characters deciding that having sex would be a bad idea at that junction, and thus engage in shop-talk in an effort to not throw themselves at each other.

    2. Imitate life. How do smart people usually end up in trouble? Hubris, arrogance, underestimating their opponents, juggling too many schemes at the same time etc.
     
  8. KaTrian

    KaTrian A foolish little beast. Contributor

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    @Lovegrove Thanks :) Solutions tend to present themselves after a while, and I actually find these situations more amusing than annoying. And believe me, initially every stop and string was pulled to keep those two from bedroom high-jinxin' it :D Let them have their fun now, it won't last long...
     
  9. obsidian_cicatrix

    obsidian_cicatrix I ink, therefore I am. Contributor

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    That sounds ominous. :D
     
  10. KaTrian

    KaTrian A foolish little beast. Contributor

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    Haha. Well, you know, equilibrium never lasts in the fictional world...
     
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    I write into corners often. Usually, I just back out and start again to get around it. But, this last one I think I wrote too much to do that. I was supposed to write one of my main characters irritated with his family, but it was mostly a misunderstanding due to not communicating. Instead, I wrote the family as likable and even the main character enjoyed being in their company. Now, I have to find a realistic reason for him to get mad enough to not go home for Thanksgiving dinner. I'll probably just rewrite it in the second draft.
     
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    It's never happened to me. I work out the overall plot before hand if not each detailed scene, so I know where everyone has to go, and if anything a character does or says works against the plot I simply change it.
     
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    Not very often. Even though I don't outline or really plan ahead, I do stop and think about possibilities before committing to a specific action. But corners can be fun, too...
     
  14. Wild Knight

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    I don't just write myself into corners often- I run full speed at them, I trip, stumble, cracking my forehead on them in the process. Good thing they're not table CORNERS, or I'd be bleeding out what remains of my plot.

    I have many different story ideas for that same cast of characters. I probably should just swallow my pride and make new characters for those alternate scenarios, because I want to write ALL of them, but nope, I won't.

    So I'll only continue charging full speed, only to find a corner that I won't be able to swerve around... *cracks forehead at aforementioned corner*

    That upper paragraph made me choke on my tea laughing, so I was both laughing hysterically and coughing at once. It kind of hurt.
     
  15. KaTrian

    KaTrian A foolish little beast. Contributor

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    Oh no, please don't sue me :(
     
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    Oh, don't worry. I won't sue you. This time.
     
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