I've been told I have *too many* gay characters!

Discussion in 'Character Development' started by dracodomitor, Mar 11, 2016.

  1. King Arthur

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    Talking about it and not doing anything about it.

    In fact, being one of the causes of it also makes him a hypocrite.

    And for someone who just told me to read the definition of literal, you don't seem to have grasped the concept yourself. Which reminds me, why are your posts appearing if you're on my ignored list?
     
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    You ignored Bayview? For shame! Though, I did get on her ignored list myself. (cries)
     
  3. King Arthur

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    I am, but being on his side means you technically should morally support Bin Laden too. Similar death toll (a few thousand) and exact same motivations. Slippery slope.
     
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    Slippery slope is right. Slippery slope fallacy.
     
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    That was kind of the point of the post that you were responding to. It has only statistical meaning.
     
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  6. King Arthur

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    How?
     
  7. King Arthur

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    Mandela: wanted to free opressed people, but it didn't work politically so he resorted to violence.
    Osama: wanted to free opressed people, but it didn't work politically so he resorted to violence.
     
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    Slippery slope fallacy still.
    And I would express disappointment that Mandela ultimately resorted to violence. But at least his cause was a bit better.
     
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    We should stop the social/political debate. Isn't that right, @KaTrian?
     
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    Not Osama, maybe the poshos of Syria for me, probably
    back them Alawites, push came to shove, if I were me and there, and not me, here now.
     
  11. King Arthur

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    The cause can't really be better.
     
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    Yeah, this is too off-topic and we should stop.
     
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    Thing is if you were writing a story with all gay characters, you'd hope/think the old ladies of the library would immerse into story, conflict of types and scene, all that...so the 'gay-bash' doesn't ring true.
     
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    Uh...no. If a story can casually mention a man's wife, it can casually mention a man's husband. There is no reason to have some extra burden of relevance.

    If you're making a statistical argument, can I assume that you also put a very, very large burden on a story to justify the mention of a character with red hair? There are fewer red-haired people in the world than non-straight people.
     
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    Having a husband =/= romance
     
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    Exactly. Some of this is reminding me of the thing with Justin. Maybe it make sense to them but having to justify traits necessarily is bizarre to me. I need incidental ones, that are there to create a full character.
     
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    Romance as a literary term refers to a building of a relationship; the process of romancing. Having a partner doesn't make it romance even in the subplot, just kind of references and implies.
     
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    The Haradrim, and I believe the Corsairs of Umbar(?), were more Middle Eastern, as I recall, and the Southrons were somewhat darker.
     
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    Didn't you just agree with what I said in that case?

    Also, who tagged this as political correctness?
     
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    Because that's what we were initially talking about: writing what we want vs. political correctness.

    EDIT: Mass Effect 3 has a crewman who is gay. There's no big deal made about it, no big to-do. We only find out he's gay when he talks about his husband with Commander Shepard. Granted this was in the context of tragedy, but still, the game didn't try to excuse or justify this man's existence. He was just there, part of the crew as the rest. He just happened to be gay.

    So I think my point is: if you want to have a gay character, have a gay character. You don't have to justify it or explain it. Do what makes sense for your story and your character. If anyone complains...

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    OP seemed clumsy with desire to tick boxes, never offend, sense of creepness emerged - possibly unfair perception of double over-good, feeding of library ladies twelve independent gay men, the lifestyle, pills and marketing. What's wrong with these bitches? he said, maybe...
     
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    "Twelve Independent Gay Men" sounds like an Agatha Christie novel.
     
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    It's been a while since i read it, but i dont remember him ever describing black people in The Hobbit. The only time they are used in the film too is as background characters, which was why a lot of people complained because it felt like they where there to be PC. They did the same thing by adding women as background characters, although i think it would be odd not to have any women in a movie.
     
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    I can only assume you have the same grasp of how to put someone on "ignore" that you have of basic word meanings. Keep working at it - maybe you'll figure it out!

    ETA: And... I don't think I used the word "literal"? Can you clarify how you think I misused it?

    In the case of "doing something" about global warming - really, I think it's a problem that's going to be solved by spending less money (lowering consumption) rather than more money. How could a movie star spend $250 million and solve global warming?
     
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    Um...

    Do you really not know what the word means?

    For someone to "literally" give billion of dollars, they would have to possess billions of dollars. This person does not possess billions of dollars.

    Is your failure of understanding about the word "literal" or about the word "billion"?
     

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