Just got fired from my new job.

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  1. Trish

    Trish Damned if I do and damned if I don't Contributor

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    Ummm... See ya :)

    My first job I was 13 and I worked for a landscaper. When I started they were landscaping the 4 nearest McDonald's. I unloaded truck after truck of Marigold's. To this day Marigold's make me angry. I hate them. With a fiery passion that has no bounds. But I did it anyway because I had to.
     
  2. wolfi

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    I'd hire him, it shows me he is not afraid to ask for help
    i cant tell you how many teens wont go to parents for help because "real men" take care of them selfs, before you know it its not just parents its also those in charge of you and so on in till you get those who dont know what to do but wont ask for help bcuse they are use to not aksing




    also to point out
    he said his mother tried and he did not want the jo so i dont think he asked her
     
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    In the end, I've got to agree with the consensus here. A job is a job, no matter what it might entail. Maybe the manager should have let you known ahead of time what duties would be included in the position you were applying for, but even so, that might have been a tester to see how well you would start off. Managers like to see flexibility. I'm not saying he/she didn't inform you on purpose for that exact reason, but that's just the business mentality. When push comes to shove, on the wallet I mean, management changes.
     
  4. Trish

    Trish Damned if I do and damned if I don't Contributor

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    I don't understand. What do you mean? Why does he need help talking to HIS boss? He should be able to handle it himself. I handled issues with my boss myself when I was 13.
     
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    I agree with Trish.

    Also, Wolfi, there's a huge difference between talking to your parents for help versus having them handle your problems for you. Even though I'm an adult, if I had an overwhelming problem at work, I could call my dad when I got home and explain the situation and ask for advice, then use said advice to handle my problem myself. My dad would never jump in and get involved directly -- first of all, he'd realize it's mine to solve as a grownup, and second of all, I'd never ask/allow it as it totally goes against everything I believe in.

    What if you had a fight with your girlfriend, would your mom call your girlfriend to demand she apologize and make it up to you?

    I mean, this is WORK. At work, they expect you to be an adult.

    You can ask for help, but letting your parents handle your workplace issues shows you are extremely childish with no sense of personal responsibility or independence.

    When there's an emergency at work or something that must be solved on the spot, Mommy can't always run to the rescue. Sometimes you have to have the balls to step up and handle things when you need to, and having your mom call proves you can't.
     
  6. wolfi

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    Yes you did
    but would it be wrong to ask someone else to help?
    how many family are poor and homeless becuse they wont ask mom and dad for some $$$? or to talk to a boss to get a job?


    also 1 hour this guy was not his boss

    what they did was called a "walk though" at least here
    when you sign on they take you and teach you what to do
    you ARE not yet a worker
    the whole day you follow someone around and learn what to do
    also knowing as showding


    and to ponit out for the uptenth time
    HE did not ask his mom to call
    she did it on her own
     
  7. Mallory

    Mallory Contributor Contributor

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    Whatever your parents could say to get you a job, you could say it yourself. It's one thing to say "Hey Mom, I'm looking for a job at Dunkin Donuts, do you know anyone in management there who I could talk to?" and then approach that person yourself with your resume.

    It's another thing to expect to get a job based on Mommy telling your boss he/she should hire you because you're a great kid. Unless if you're talking about a 13-year-old babysitter, and even then, I got those jobs on my own.
     
  8. wolfi

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    once again his mother did this on her own acored not on his

    2nd she was not handling the problem for him

    3rd whats the defreince betwen them telling you what to do and them doing it for you?
    none
    beside the fact you said it in your own words
    for exsample
    he gose home
    "mom what do i do?"
    "Call them and ask for the job back"
    yeahh... samethign
    where did this guy demand? dont put things that are not there

    and letting you mom and dad do things for you is not an adult?
    an adult is smart enough to get help where ever it comes

    lets see here
    #1 he did not ask them to help she did this her self
    #2 no it dose not, it shows your smeat enough to know you dont know everything no mater how old you get
    which is very unchildish

    okay show me where he ASKED his mom to make the call?

    he never asked his mom to
    he went there and even when he had way more then he was sopouse to do
    he stuck there for an hour
    they fired him
    he did not quite
    he handle it very well
     
  9. Trish

    Trish Damned if I do and damned if I don't Contributor

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    I just think, and go ahead and call me wrong if you must, but this is just my opinion, and it's not even necessarily directed at the OP but just in general, that too many people these days have the attitude that somebody owes them something. That someone should help them. That mommy or daddy or uncle bob or uncle sam should come and rescue their butt. That this is too hard for not enough money. My opinion is that people need get off their own @$$ and do whatever it takes. Bottom line. Work is called "work" because it's usually HARD. It's not sitting on your butt in front of the TV. You have to learn how to do new things, how to deal with people, how to keep your mouth shut when you want to tell them to stuff it. [/RANT]
     
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    your not wrong but at the same time how many with those attributes are to extremal?
    and do everything by them self?
    thats not being mature thats being stupid
     
  11. Mallory

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    The difference between getting advice from a parent versus having them handle it for you is that in the former case, you get some [hopefully] wise input and then use it to make the decision on your own. You don't blindly follow the advice without thinking. Also, it's about the presentation and approach and level of professionalism. When you have an issue with someone, you expect to work it out with that person, not their mom.

    I am not putting things in that aren't there. I am making a hypothetical comparison. Big difference.

    I realize he may not have told her to do it, but he could have told her not to, or that he'd prefer to do the mature thing and handle it on his own.

    Frankly it is unprofessional.
     
  12. Trish

    Trish Damned if I do and damned if I don't Contributor

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    No, it's not. It's the difference between Independence and Dependence, which is HUGE.
     
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    Just to clarify here, Mal -- I think Matrix was saying he didn't want the job but his Mom called anyway. Can you see how that might be a bit different?
     
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    Certain things you have to do by yourself. Like interviewing your potential employer when applying for a job. (And I'm referring to the post you made several posts ago, on the top of this page) If you think Mommy can do this for you because doing your own job interview is too overwhelming, you are delusional.
     
  15. wolfi

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    so your blaming him for soemthing hist mother did?
    someone he has no control over
    thats not very mature...

    sure he could of said "dont help"
    but how could he know she would have?
    remember he dose not want this job
    sure take what you can get
    but he is 17 he dose not NEED this job
    some other guys do
    let them work it
     
  16. Trish

    Trish Damned if I do and damned if I don't Contributor

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    Again, doing everything by yourself is not stupid, it is called being self-reliant and Independent. It is true that you probably can't achieve that completely, most people at the very least need companionship, but, imo, this should be a goal.
     
  17. wolfi

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    he got the job him self i assume (as he had not said other wise)
    why bring this up?

    another thing is
    how many employs think all teenagers all like that?
    would he have lsitned to this kid?
    or just say "he is a kid who is immature don't bother i wont hire him"

    who wouyld you be more inlcined to hear out

    a 17 year old who you fired thinking he is immature
    or an older women who works who you know, can handle evreythoing

    once again he did not ask for the help
    she did it her self

    but its smart
    i cant tell you how many teens don't "Get the job"
    not because of their fault but because the employ is dead set on "its a teen"
    but the mother father\older person gose
    in and all of a sunde boom the teen is hierd
     
  18. wolfi

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    but its not being mature, mature is knowing you cant do everything by your self and you can have others help you
     
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    I realize that he didn't ask his mom to talk to the boss (or he didn't say he did, at least).

    This is the post I was referring to with my job interview comment:

    It's not the parents' place to talk to a boss to get their kid a job. here, you imply that it is.
     
  20. Trish

    Trish Damned if I do and damned if I don't Contributor

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    At one of my last jobs I WAS management (I worked 3 at once, plus took care of kids, that was kinda hard to keep up with, but I did it) and I hired teens regularly. I can tell you I NEVER hired a teen that had a parent call to make arrangements. NEVER. I DO NOT NEED that kind of drama, thank you very much. I don't need their mommy calling to tell me why they couldn't mop at the end of their shift. Not happening. Sorry.
     
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    ^ Precisely.

    My bosses at my high school jobs mentioned this when they hired me, and I was appalled that some people's parents would even do that.
     
  22. wolfi

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    no i said help them

    like a father knows a guy
    says "let me get you in the lets says newpaper

    and then boom the kid gets the job
    thats not wrong thats being smart

    like you said in this day and age jobs are hard to come by
    don't complain bout how you get them
    just get them
    if it requires your parents help then that just goes to show that your man enough to admit you need help

    don't feel bad about this but i would not hire you either
    not being mean but here is whty


    #1 you come off as having to do it by your self with no help
    thats a big miuns
    #2 the reason seems to be pride a big problem
    #3 you said by your self doing everything
    i take that as not being a team player
    #4 your saying this kid is one of them and there is no proof that he is
    once again your pride gets in the way

    he did all four of the things he was not sopouse to do he did not sign up for it
    but he did it


    now others would hire you
    some would not

    I'm just one of those that would not
     
  23. Trish

    Trish Damned if I do and damned if I don't Contributor

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    Mature is technically reaching full development. If you can't assess and handle problems at a reasonable level without calling your parents for reinforcements, I don't think you can lay claim to that title, IMO.
     
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    IMO ifyou think you CAN"T ask your parents for help
    thats inmatue

    you know those six year olds that wont ask you to help them with the bath?
    or the 10 year olds who wont ask you to get them a band aid?
    the eight year oltds who wont ask for a hair cut and give it them selfs?
    the 16 year old who wont ask for help with girls?
    the 18 year old who wont ask for help when he needs it becuse he is a "man"

    sooooo do any of those sound inmature?
     
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    Trish Damned if I do and damned if I don't Contributor

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    I'm okay with that
     
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