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    Kids and clothes

    Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by summer-ray, Oct 1, 2007.

    Just want other peoples thoughts on this subject.

    We are living in a sick world which inhabits some pretty sick people. And lately ive been wondering how some parents can dress their small daughters in such revealing and suggestive clothing. I mean kids these days have a wider variety of clothing than us adults do, and some of the things i see in the under 13's section disturbs me. skimpy skirts, see through shirts, knee high boots, ive evn seen little girls with hair dye and make up on. I just dont understand how a parent could do that to their child when the world is full of predators, it sickens me.

    your thoughts?


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    Two words: Media; Money.

    Modern pop music is filled with artists like Rhianna, Beyonce, Madonna(past and present) etc. Young pre-tween kids(10-13 age bracket) are now old enough to recognise what their idols are doing, and what to imitate it, but aren't old enough to recognise why their heroes are doing what they do, or the consequences of it.
    For example, if a girl see's Rhianna wearing small, tight shorts and a low cut top, with mascarra on and her hair dyed, it's only natural that they will want to copy this style of clothing. Exec's then see this and think "there's a big market that can be blown wide open here; dollars, dollars, dollars". And thus, you get what your seeing around the place.

    It's the way modern society works. There's not alot that anyone can do about it either.
     
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    Ok well I agree with you there. I have bought my daughter a pair of knee high boots though and she is only just gone two. She has two pairs. I bought them for her as the are warmer than the shoes that she has and I would continue to buy them for her as well. She also has some short skirts and the like as for toddlers its hard to get clothing that isn't short like that.
    I hate the fact that young girls are dressed like teenage tarts but the way society is going not much can be done unless you make your own clothing really. They don't provide much clothin these days that is conservative or warm. Just skanky and revealing and supporting the habits of perverts and the like.
     
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    could not have put it better myself Frost. Even high five <kids program encourages the behaviour.
     
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    Exactly. Bit of a sad state of affairs, but no point mulling over it. This is pretty much something that's unstoppable, unless you want to get into restriction of human rights. You take provocative music videos off the airwaves, kids get on youtube. You block youtube, kids can download it to their mobiles. You don't give your kids a mobile, well, kids have friends. No matter how well you try and shelter them, these sorts of things will reach their minds. The only thing a parent can do, is to educate properly the reasons why the artists on TV and what not do what they do. Society today is sex driven. Therefore, the only protection from society is education. And that's how it's always been.

    Of course, this problem not only affects young girls. Internet pornography is so easily accessible these days it could have some severe impacts on a child if they get into too young. The trend is almost disturbing; every single person in my boarding house has viewed porn. Most have some on their computers. I wont lie; I'm not exempt of this either. It's just how it is these days.
     
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    To avoid this tween tartness

    I'm going to dress my kids in potato sacks.

    lewl.
     
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    It is the safest way Eoz, but can you really handle the smell of potato sacks 24/7 lol
     
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    I think it's even more sick when you see g-strings for eight year olds. Bloody disgusting! I'm hoping my girl will end up sort of like me, as in wear boys clothes more often! LOL.

    It's gross that big bosses of clothing chains allow thse sorts of clothes to go through. I mean, knee high boots are btter than see through shirts and g-strings and bras when the girl doesn't need them for another ten years!
     
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    Please tell me that's an exaggeration, DOZ...
     
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    She exaggertes not.
     
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    are you serious, ive never even heard of that..thats going way too far.
    its like hello mr pedo care to take my daughter for a ride? That is revolting
     
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    I have seen the underwear for little girls and it makes my skin crawl and I feel ill. It really does my head in. Thye give these little girls clothes for grown ups then act siprised when the little girls start doing things that adults do as in drinking and drugs (of course, not all of them but enough to make me mad) and you hear of kids, and I hate to call anyone around thirteen a kid, boasting about having sex! Maybe it's not just the media, maybe it stems from kids having access to clothes like this through parents who either think there is nothing wrong with dressing thier daughter like a hooker or just don't care or think it's cute.
     
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    ...sorry, but that's a load of baloney!... there are always lots of clothes for kids that don't make them look like hookers... plenty of the 'conservative' and 'warm' stuff is even cheaper than the popular sexy crap... good parents will go to the trouble of finding them, instead of taking the easy way and letting their little girls dress up in 'rape me!' scheiss... if parents didn't buy into the trend, it wouldn't be one!

    so don't blame the manufacturers and the stores... blame those who are really responsible, your fellow moms who dress them and/or allow their little darlings to look like 'tuppenny-uprights'...
     
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    Damn spot on, I think.

    I remember I was at the shopping centre a while back, and I noticed a 7-10 year old girl with her mother. I think she was wearing a tight pink and black tank top with glitter on the front, and a white skirt that was way to short, with the word SEXY printed on the ass. No, she wasn't sexy. Maybe cute, maybe pretty, but not sexy. I really was wondering how her mother could let her dress like that.

    Then again, I wonder how many times the mother had to listen to 'But mum, please, all the other girls get to wear them!'

    The parents are really battling peer pressure and the media. Maybe homeschooling and no TV is the answer :p
     
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    If/when I have a daughter I'll let her have an opinion about what she wears. I have the final say. If it takes several hours more to find respectable clothes for her to wear, so be it.
    I have no respect for parents that let their children (anyone below the age of 12) dress up like gangsters or tarts. If they actually tried to do their job, they would know how to deal with their children properly.
    And if peer pressure makes a little girl want to buy g-strings, and similar clothes, she can use her own money to buy them. With how much that kind of stuff costs she might be able to buy one item a year if she saves all her allowance.
     
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    I love my mum! We never had any revolting clothes when we were kids. Always wore dolls shoes and knee length dresses. Did I mention socks? lol. Other girls made me feel like a freak, but hey, I think thats a given. teehee. I still find myself asking for my mum's opinion on clothes. It pains me to see six year olds in high heels and tube tops and I say my mum RAWKS! :D
     
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    I used to get clothes from the salvos as a kid, some people are embarrased by it, but hey, you really find some bargains in there, and even these days my mother wont let me wear anything revealing if she is with me, she was always very protective of me as i am with my daughter. Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind, and if that means saying no, then you damn well say no!lol ok that sounded mean but you all get my point right..........right?
     
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    I mildly agree but it also doesn't help when whoever is in charge of creating these clothes is allowed to sell them. Sure, there are nice clothes for girls but my point at this moment in time is that the designers or whomever is in charge are still allowed to make these types of clothing.

    Yes, the parents should have the final say in what the girl wears but it would help if there weren't 'tartish' clothes thrust in your face when you first walk into a clothing store. They shouldn't be producing these clothes in the first place for that age group.
     
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    Supply always follows demand, nothing will ever change that. Because there is nobody really in charge of these clothing rackets, not individuals anyway.

    If a clerk at a store refuses to sell the clothes, she gets fired. If a store manager refuses to stock the clothes, they lose profits and risk going out of buisness.

    If one supplier won't take the clothes, annother supplier will. If the people on the board of the clothing company dont participate, they get fired or replaced. If the manager of the clothing company doesnt want those clothes made, the company loses profits, the shareholders get pissed, and they replace him.

    It reminds me of the Abilene paradox. Nobody in the group wants to do something, but each thinks the others do, and therefore they vote to do something that is contradictary to the true preferences of any individual.

    I honestly don't think anybody wants to make little girls look like whores, what they want is profits.

    If you're suggesting that they be regulated by the government(s), then thats a whole different game, and I doubt it'd ever work
     
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    As per usual, while some of what you say is right, most of it is laced with arrogance. The clothing in large department stores these days is cheap. Walmart, K-mart, Target, all of these shops stock this "skanky" clothing; it's dirt cheap too. Not every single parent has the money to get online and order their children good quality, conservative clothing from where ever it is you order it from. And it's down right arrogant to pin the full blame on a parent, especially when you don't know a parents circumstance. Indeed, some of the blame must fall with the parent. But if I have to sacrifice good quality clothing in order to feed my child, I would do it. Im sure alot of other parents would agree with me. Those who can afford to not buy the skank-ho clothes of course, have much less of an excuse. They might want to let the child be free to wear what she wants, and just educate them, or shelter them in another way. There is always more than one path.
     

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