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    Move over Catcher in the Rye, Anne Frank's Diary is the new ban-it book.

    Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by GingerCoffee, May 9, 2013.

    I got such a kick out of the way Emer O'Toole from the Guardian put it:

    Anne Frank's diary isn't pornographic – it just reveals an uncomfortable truth
    I have to admit, I never rooted around in my vagina before I tried it out with a male appendage, but I think it's fantastic that Anne Frank wrote about hers. And I laughed out loud at this article.

    Hope I've not offended any forum members. This was in a mainstream news article so I chose not to add NSFW spoiler tags.
     
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    If this were youtube, I'd totally "thumb" you... thumb up, I mean.
     
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    I hate when books are banned, especially one as important as this one. What's next, Night by Eli Wiesel?
     
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    On the other hand, it calls attention to the things people are trying to hide from others.
     
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    in other words, if you don't want kids to read it, put it on the summer reading list
     
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    Exactly! :D

    But whatever you do, don't tell the kids they shouldn't read it. ... Hmmm, maybe that bothered parent has a hidden agenda.
     
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    Huh? Do these parents also ban sex-ed in junior high? I mean here it starts on the 7th grade, when most girls already have their period. And you get to see awkward Danish sex-ed videos. At least we used to. That stuff is way "worse" than Anne Frank's explorations.

    Way to teach your kid you're some unnatural freak whose lady parts should be kept a national secret.
     
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    Sadly, yes they do. We have a lot of loony people here.
     
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    Yep, there are people out there who feel that sex should be for procreation only, that one should find no joy in it, and that discussion of such topics will create craven, Godless, beast children. These are often the same people who believe in 'whore shaming' as an effective from of contraception.
     
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    What do I know.......

    Sitting in the teacher's lounge listening. The topic, teen pregnancy, AIDS and the whole nine yards.

    So I do what comes natural and simply posed a question......"Why not show some really graphic pictures of genitals oozing puss? Scare the living crap them with reality. Pull the curtain back because it's Show Time!

    Those old bittys were on me in a heartbeat. "Lord help this unholy creature after we smite his dumb-ass!"

    So their plan.....

    Soon a senior comes to my ninth grade class with a condom and vaseline to describe all the wonderful pleasures there are in avoiding AIDS and what not.

    Can't help but watch and wonder. The parents of little Suzie, do they know what takes place at her school? If Suzie was my little 14-year-old would I allow an 18-year-old boy to "educate her" or would I be in jail for pounding the shit outa him?

    Here's what I know......So wonderful to have only boys to look after growing up. Boys allowed me to remain a free man.:)
     
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    WTF kind of sex education goes on at your school? I've never heard of any kind of approved sex ed curriculum that involves teaching by another student, and not by a teacher, or by some kind of outside professional.

    I also don't believe it's typical that everyone who engages in sex winds up with pus-oozing genitals.
     
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    How is this is the part of the book people consider 'upsetting for children,' and the parts where the Nazis are trying to kill her and her entire family are totally okay? What? If someone's mature enough to read about genocide, they're old enough to know about vaginas. Just adult sensibilities sneaking into places they have no business being, as usual.
     
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    Silly Liz:)

    Don't really know how to communicate a way of life so alien-like to you. Where can I even begin......Spent 3 years in 2 different school systems. One in SC, the other in GA Most parents here don't know what goes on in their children's school let alone someone from Chicago. I'll try......

    There's a program and it's called ALPS. Advanced Learning Placement Students. Okay......Are you visualizing that name. Go on.......Take your time.

    This is ALPS. Kids on ~ a 4th grade level and not Special Ed. But their age and size make them a danger to be around middle-schoolers, let alone elementary age kids. So they park them in a self-contained trailer at a high school. And after a period of time, some will attend a class here-and-there but not for credit. It the socializing and learning how to behave human-ish that counts.

    Had a good kid. Already a car mechanic. I could throw him my keys. There was a car shop on campus. He did break repair, oil changes, even replaced a starter. But he made the mistake of telling two other students that the engine he put in his car cost ~$1000. They got him to take them for a ride and they shot him in the back of the head. Plan was to get 1k for that car.

    This one's funny.....

    A reporter saw a school bus parked at the "Skanky Arms Motel" so he waited. Thought he might have a story on some horr-chasing, crack-smoking bus driver. Turned out it's the man in charge of the transportation division. He and his secretary's car's were in the county's shop getting free tires.
    "Hey! I'm in charge! Ain't nobody telling me I can't drive a bus to go screw!"
    Turned out he was right.....So many friends. And the hits just kept on rolling.

    The biggest industry in poor counties in the South is the Board of Education. All hail God and the BOE! So, maybe a condom, vasoline and an 18-year-old kid is a little easier for you to imagine now? :)

    BTW I make no claim to any school where I taught but the good kids and even some of the not too bad ones were enjoyable. Crap! They're kids. Very thankful their environment was not mine growing up.
     
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    Or the fact she died shortly before the camp was liberated. It's so sad.
     
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    This book is actually fairly tame when it comes to the actual genocide part. She wrote about her time in hiding, and while it was a horrible time for her and her family, the book is certainly not as explicit as some of the other Holocaust memoirs out there.

    I remember first reading Night in 8th grade, and I think reading Anne Frank in 7th grade is a great idea because it's a good introduction to Holocaust literature. There are several good film adaptations of it, too.
     
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    That complaining mother clearly doesn't understand what 'pornographic' means, or is.
     
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    Simply acknowledging the nasty bits is pornography to the repressed.
     
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    Don't know about you, but I my body doesn't have any "nasty bits". ;)
     
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    The only nasty bit on my body is my face. But we digress....
     
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    Of course not everyone oozes. That's not the point. These teachers were older than me and the thought of doing something to influence young people not to have sex at such an early age was beyond them. They had been in a public school environment for many years and I was the crazy one.

    One principal was so happy landing a teacher with PhD at the end of her name. Eyes tell so much and conversation even more. Not the run-of-the-mill educated idiot type. She was totally et-up with the dumb-ass. A few morons in her class learned they could get her out in the hall for some period of time while their buddies forced a learning disable student to perform oral sex.

    Meanwhile the drug dogs are brought in and walk the rows between students. Dog showed a hit on a girl. Deputies took her into the bathroom and went all the way. Yep....Cavity search and found nothing.

    Turned out the girl was a 4.0 student and her dog at home was in heat. Gets worse. Her dad was a lawyer who swam with big fish. Oh well. Just tax-payer's money anyways. After that fiasco, kids learned real quick to keep the joints in their pockets and purses. No worries, dogs were kept at a distance from students. I liked that...easier to bum one.:) Just kidding.

    My classroom was at the end of a hall. Outside exit ~ 40 feet away from classroom door. Received last minute written instructions on a fire drill. I was to travel down the hall deeper into the building, away from the nearest point of egress. That made it simple for a principal to count teachers' heads as they mustered close to his office.

    Which way do you think I went? :) Sausage head went from pissed-off to wanting his written instructions back for fear of the Fire Marshall seeing them. No worries, I'm not here for long anyways and don't care who knows or doesn't know he's a dumb-ass. His praises are in the newspaper from time-to-time. Funny pages aren't always in the back.

    I had the hammer-bandit in one class. Ol Ben made national news. Handsome kid, blonde hair and blue eyes. He'd sneak up on people at the waffle house and such places, conk them on the back of the head then rob them. Didn't conk one guy hard enough and had his hammer taken away. Ol Ben was lucky to get away. Got caught a few days later.

    That's it. No more talk of my teaching days.
     
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    I think that is ludicrous. Most girls do have their period by then and you really think they know nothing about their body by that point? What if they're using tampons? No there's no touching the tampons just magically insert themselves all on their own!

    I'm always amazed how people are more put off by the human body than they are by violence.
     
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    This kind of utterly diseased morality is what is wrong with this world. People like that should be ignored, not reported on in world-wide media.
     
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    @Michael O: I find your excessive swearing, name calling of children, and various other unsavoury "jokes" and stories about the school environment extremely disturbing for someone who claims to be a teacher. I would like to respectfully ask you to moderate your conduct on the forum, especially when you are talking about the kids.
     

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