1. EstherMayRose

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    Could Someone Help Me Name my Big Bad?

    Discussion in 'Character Development' started by EstherMayRose, Apr 10, 2017.

    My main villain in my book is the leader of a political party that's aiming to try to get into the wizarding government (in 1930s England), but currently has no seats. I think I can manage a name for the man himself, but I need a name for the party. They're anarchists who want to break down order so that they can then impose their ideals on society. They are a bit like Communists in that they're very power-to-the-people, but they also want to deport foreign wizards and send any time-travelling wizards back to their own time - which could split up families. They also want to deprive witches of many of their rights, including their right to vote, own property, etc., and bring wizards out of hiding. They want to gain the vote of poorer wizards and, when they have a majority, declare all laws null and void. They're currently in hiding as they're wanted for murder, part of their plan being to wipe out all the old wizarding families, which has affected the heroine and many of her friends. I'm currently calling it "the Party" for short, as most people do, but I need help figuring out what it's short for. I'd like something pretentious and political, something to make them sound reasonable rather than pantomime villains. Thanks to anyone who responds.
     
  2. Zeppo

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    I think you have picked a good time in a current political environment to try to write something like this. First, I think it should be a simple name, something that can be seen, by the average joe (who might otherwise be blinded to the truth behind the organization) as the party that can represent them, and make important changes that the average joe thinks will "make wizarding great again"

    So, that might not help withing coming up with a name directly, but it might give an indication as to what might work.

    Honestly, I don't think "The Party" works quite right, but I am also having difficulty coming up alternatives for you.

    The Modernists
    The HARP (perhaps an acronym)

    Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance.
     
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    Wizards Socialist Party (WSP) can call the Wisps. :p
    WizCom Party
    Wizarding Reformist Party. Add a 'the' and you could call them Twerps. :p
    Anarcho Communist Party-Not really sure, but that is a party that does exist in the real wold.
    Conservative Anarcho Magicians Party.
    Anarcho Wizard Traditionalists- Kinda pulled this one based around the Suffragette Movement, considering they had just a decade prior got to vote and stuff.
    Traditionalist Wizards and Witches Reform Party.
    Magical Persons Traditionalist Party
    Ye Pro-Olde Ways Wizards and Witches :p
    The National Communist Traditionalist Anarcho Wizarding Reformists.

    IDK, you have like two or three different totalitarian themes going on here.

    Good Luck with this, it is rather tricky and I hope you get what your looking for. :supersmile:
     
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    The Upraisers. Because they want (or claim to want) to raise up the lower class. They have appraised the situation and deemed it unacceptable, so they are staging a political uprising. Three puns.

    Or, basing it on the deportation policy, the Protectionist movement-- to protect wizards from foreigners, to protect the fabric of time, to protect the lower class from the upper class, and to protect witches from... whatever men claimed they were protecting women from when they didn't give them the right to vote and such. And above all they want to protect wizards from the nonmagic community.

    Or, away from the defensive-- the Rightful, perhaps? Something that says, "This thing belongs to us, and it is right in our grasp, so why have we not taken it yet?"

    I don't know. This sounds very Grindelwaldian. You might want to see if J. K. Rowling can give you some pointers.
     
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    I think rktho is onto something.

    I'd go with the Wizards First Movement. It's simple, powerful, pretentious and has the goals right up front.
     
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    With that, I think they should call themselves the Prioritists-- because wizards should be the first priority.
     
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    Thank you all. I've chosen "Protectionists" for now, but I think I'll add something to that. (Rktho, well done. You win a virtual biscuit.) As a follow-up question, could someone help me think of an emblem? It needs to be memorable, because my protagonist spots it and remembers having seen it before. Ta muchly.

    In fact, you all win ice cream.
     
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    What's something protective? A shield comes to mind. Too cliche, methinks. Something else protective...
     
  9. rktho

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    Perhaps a wall, if that could be turned into an emblem somehow.
     
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    Perhaps the emblem could be abstract, like a swastika. A swastika is the symbol of well-being in Sanskrit culture. Swastika means well-being. So look up a symbol of protection in other cultures. Choose one you like, then find out what the symbol is called.
     
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    You could choose a scorpion. Scorpions have a bit of a bad reputation since they're venomous and aggressive. So that could tip them off as "evil". But scorpion amulets are said to repel negative forces and guard against enemies. So a scorpion could be an animal to be used as an emblem.
     
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    Let's talk about your elephant in the room. This is not a good description of your political party. It's inconsistent.

    For starters, communism and anarchism are polar opposite ideologies. Communists advocate for complete government control on economic and social policy, while anarchists want no government at all. You can't be a little bit of both.

    Why would anarchists have a political party? Anarchists are not people who want to kick a few skulls in. An anarchists group would try to burn the government to the ground and try to make sure another one doesn't take it's place because they think that would make everyone free. More importantly, an anarchist would never try to impose their ideals on society. A communist would, but a communist would also not try to deport anyone. Communist nations had a tradition of not letting anyone leave their borders. The part about deprivation of rights is also confusing, as anarchists think rights are not a factor that should be mandated by the government and communists wouldn't deprave the rights of just one group of persons. Furthermore, voting is not a factor in a communist or anarchist society, communists think property rights don't exist in general, and anarchists, especially anarcho-capitalists, are so adamant on property rights that some will go as far as to call their own house a sovereign state. I don't know if you will be using this terminology in your book, but you will confuse readers on the motives held by those in this group. The word you are looking for to describe these people is statist.
     
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    OK. I think that was bad phrasing on my part. Allow me to attempt to explain better (late at night, but I probably won't remember tomorrow).

    Aims of the Protectionists:

    1. Impose their own ideals on society using a break-it-down-and-build-it-back-up-again method. Anarchy is not their final aim. To them, it is a means to an end. They want to get rid of all the old laws so that they can then have a clear canvas to bring in all their new laws. (I got the original idea for this facet from the Red Lotus group from season three of the cartoon "The Legend of Korra".)

    2. They want to raise poorer wizards up from the slums, so that they can support themselves, using funds taken from the rich. They dislike upper-class wizards, seeing them as corrupt and self-serving. This is why they want to get rid of all the old families. (In my defence, I did say that they were a bit like communists, not that they were communists, and I did follow that with a "but".)

    3. They believe that women not having rights is the "natural order", since they went many years without any.

    4. They also believe that the "natural order" involves everyone remaining in their country and time of origin.

    5. They want to bring wizards out of hiding because they believe that they are superior, having been given their powers for a reason. (While the upper classes, having abused them to gain power and money, no longer deserve them.)

    6. They're doing this legally because, as Hitler discovered, obeying current laws, however much you may detest them, is the most effective way of gaining the power to overturn them.

    As a final note, this party is still in the development stage (in my head, not in the book), and I may get rid of some aims.

    Hope that helps.
     
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