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    No-go Zones in Europe - Fox News Starts a New Myth?

    Discussion in 'Debate Room' started by GingerCoffee, Jan 19, 2015.

    So the first I hear of this is today on CNN. Bobby Jindal told his London audience in a speech that Muslims had established areas in the UK and France where Sharia Law prevailed and non-Muslims didn't enter.

    Bobby Jindal invokes 'no-go zones' in London speech
    Sounded too bizarre to be true so I looked for other news stories on it. Apparently Jindal missed the retraction. But for some reason Wolf Blitzer challenged Jindal's claim but failed to mention the retraction to him in the interview. (I didn't see the earlier interview with Max Foster.)

    Fox News Apologizes For Guest's Claims About Muslim 'No-Go Zones'
    Of course even in the retraction there's a slight of hand, "no formal designation" which leaves the reader with the idea the zones exist informally.

    Sadly, when misinformation like this is repeated often enough, once the correction occurs research shows the damage is not so easily corrected. A year from now people are likely to believe this anti-Muslim propaganda and not recall the correction.

    If people believe misinformation and are corrected, they will soon go back to believing the first version they heard. A new study helps explain why.

    And that's in addition to confirmation bias.
    I Don't Want to Be Right

    Study Finds That We Still Believe Untruths Even After Instant Online Corrections

    Exposed to Facts, the Misinformed Believe Lies More Strongly
     
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    Also the whole of Birmingham is a no-go area apparently. From the coverage I saw on BBC world service it seems to have been met with amusement in the UK.
     
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    This is easily the most flagrant case of Faux News bullshittery to date. When the world media starts heckling you - not criticizing, but straight-up comic heckling - you know you are a re joke. Fox News is not news. It is "today's thing to think" for those citizens who are too dull and thick to think for themselves.
     
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    Didn't Cameron call that guy an idiot? I remember reading about that in the paper.

    Fox news, my TV has just got it so I now know what I'm talking about, is mostly bullshit and facts spun to be ideologically reinforcing. Trust me, most of what they say about Europe is nonsense.
     
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    Whoever said Birmingham is a no-go area for non Muslims apparently took back what he said and made a donation to Birmingham Children's Hospital (or at least offered to). It made me laugh when I saw it, but damage has already been done.

    Wonder if my TV has Fox News, don't think I've ever seen it.
     
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    When Cameron calls you an idiot, you really are an idiot.
     
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    You have Rupert Murdoch, he just operates differently in the UK but the political propaganda mission is similar.
     
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    Good point.
     
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    Saw some of the Max Foster interview. When he challenged Jindal, Jindal cited the Daily Mail, another reliable source ... not. But the after-interview comment was factual, Jindal is playing to the US market, not to the UK.
     
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    Ha! Oh wow is this ever true.
     
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    Are they trying to make everyone scared to travel or what?
     
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    No, Jindal is trying to stir up anti-Muslim fear mongering (racism of sorts) to bolster his political career. There was a comment made today I thought was interesting. Someone said he was trying to wash a little brown off his skin.

    "Really white Christian people, I'm a white Christian too, not one of those brown Muslims."​
     
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    This is why we're a laughingstock in Europe.

    At least our non-US members here can see that there are some of us who are sane. (I hope.)
     
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    Jindal appears to be a running joke in France.
     
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    I hope so, too.
     
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