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    NSA spying revisited from the 1970s and why you should care

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    I'm watching CSPAN's Book TV.

    The Burglary - The Discovery of J. Edgar Hoover's Secret FBI
    http://www.randomhouse.com/book/224642/the-burglary-by-betty-medsger

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens'_Commission_to_Investigate_the_FBI

    Once again, some very important stories rarely make a blip in the mainstream media.

    The NY Times had an article:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/07/us/burglars-who-took-on-fbi-abandon-shadows.html

    And reliable Amy Goodman and the Democracy Now investigative reporters did an in depth story.

    http://www.democracynow.org/2014/1/8/it_was_time_to_do_more
    http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2014/1/8/from_cointelpro_to_snowden_the_fbi

    From COINTELPRO to Snowden, the FBI Burglars Speak Out After 43 Years of Silence

    So, why should you care, besides the fact watching this program is absolutely fascinating and I highly recommend it to everyone (CSPAN BookTV can be seen free online)?


    Today's NSA has given the data it got spying on the Occupy Wall Street movement to the corporations the people were protesting against. It suggests we have a government not of the people, by the people, but instead a government over the people by the powerful. And things are little different from the 70s. The spying on war protesters and civil rights workers which was disclosed, caused outrage, and was curtailed for a while, is back.
     
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    Greenwald released Snowden leaked documents this morning confirming the NSA has been trying to get Assange. While there may not have been the 'sealed indictment', there were communications with the US urging other countries to indict Assange on charges related to the Afghan war.

    Warning: Click on this link and you can expect your ISP address to be red flagged by the NSA and/or GCHQ. I'm serious.

    Snowden Documents Reveal Covert Surveillance and Pressure Tactics Aimed at WikiLeaks and Its Supporters

    If you have time, watch today's (Feb 18) Democracy Now report. All the transcripts are not up yet but later today you can read or skim the stories instead of watching the whole hour of news.

    Freedom of the press and the right to an attorney are not respected by our current governments (US and UK and now Australia is also in on the game).

    And if you think this is all about national security, it goes well beyond that.

     
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    Problem is, neither of our current political parties want to do anything about this. There are GOPers complaining about it now, but most of them weren't when they were in the majority. Dems from Obama to high-ranking representative like Diane Feinstein want to continue surveillance programs, and like to use scare tactics to keep them going. This is one area where it is even more apparent that most that we need to break out of our reliance on the two current political parties, which are both corrupt and alike in many ways.
     
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    Rep Matt Salmon, Republican from AZ spoke at the "Conservative Policy Summit" at the Heritage Foundation against the waste of money the NSA spying is. I'm watching it on CSPAN.

    It will be interesting to see how the GOP balances the waste of tax dollars, spying on citizens, and national security in the coming election cycle.
     
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