Ok well i went to work today like i always do and one of the girls i work with mentioned that she wrote poetry and stories. So me being the nice guy I am offered up that she might want to join this here great forum. The reply that i got was.. and i quote! "I've got my own website i don't need that!" In a snouty voice as she looked down at me for enjoying the company of other writers and letting my work improve though your wonderful guidance. Now I took the chance to ask if she was published... Turns out her work, that is perfect and needs no assistance.. has been turned down many times, by many publishers. I think what this girl needs is to have someone look at her work and then point out ever tiny flaw until she gets it into her head that she is not better than me or anyone else, and if i ever get anything published i'm going to thank this forum for your support and then bring a copy of the book into work give it to her and say "But of course you don't need any help!"