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    Sex in novels - Are people interested in it anymore?

    Discussion in 'Debate Room' started by Darkcula, Sep 7, 2014.

    I am wondering whether people; and I mean the young ones ( 18-30), aren't they drifting away from reading love stories/erotica/YA because of a variety of porn explosion on the Web.
     
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    If it exists, someone will want to read about it.

    That said, it would depend on the kind of sex you write about. Some prefer to not metaphorically sit there while your characters boink it out, if you know what I mean. My creative writing teacher even told me that 'the best kind of sex is the sex we don't read about.'
     
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    YA is generally aimed lower than the age bracket you specified, but erotica and romance in general? Alive and doing well. Romance is the best selling genre, I think by quite a margin. And based on YA reading habits, there's another generation of romance readers on the way.
     
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    I doubt that 'people' in general aren't interested in romance and erotic literature because they have porn. Porn is aimed primarily at men (except a tiny niche porn aimed at women that's exceptionally rare) and not even all men find porn interesting, let alone all women (regardless of age). Porn deals with quite a vulgar one dimensional representation of sex, devoid of all emotion and meaning, while erotica and romance are completely opposite. They unite feeling and desire, vulgarity and sublimeness of two people sharing their bodies and souls together (typopical romanticising of sexual act). As you can see, the two perspectives are far removed from each other, so it stands to reason that both are needed to cater to variety of interests. Romance genre is still the best selling literary genre, so that should remove all doubts.

    Also, you want to reconsider drawing a 'young' line at 30. Generally speaking, YA is aimed at teenagers, aka 'young adults'. Which is not to say that YA books like Twilight, Divergent, Hunger Games, Harry Potter, aren't read and loved by adults, but they are aimed at YA. People in their 20 s and 30 s are no different to people in their 40s or 60s in terms of maturity, what differentiates between them is experience and dominant themes. So you get various adult genres such as crime, horror, historical, sci fi, that cater to different interests. Romance with explicit sex scenes tends to belong to adult romance genre, which isn't to say that young adults don't read them. Romance with non-explicit sex would be aimed at YA.
     
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    I got your point and I must say it satisfied me thoroughly. However, I am a little confused about the part where you said that people in their 20's and 30's are the same in terms of maturity to their 40ish /60ish counterparts.....
    So maturity doesn't depend on experience?
     
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    @Darkcula :
    What I meant to say by this is, sexual maturity is reached by one's 20s and there's no further 'sexual maturation' that needs to occur. Also, 'personality' is considered to become 'adult' and 'fully formed' by the age 20-21. This isn't to say any of these things are cemented but they are pretty consistent throughout adult life. Behavioural and cognitive changes occur throughout life, in response to stimuli ('experience'), so that sort of psychological maturation continues as long as we live and learn.
     
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    @jazzabel,
    Touche
     
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    Written accounts of sexuality flip different switches than visual stimuli. Visual porn is what it is and leaves little room for the imagination of the individual to fill things in to their personal liking. Writing is taylor made for that.
     
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    Considering the popularity of 50 Shades, which is New Adult (which I think is just YA with sex in it to be honest, or perhaps more specifically geared towards the older end of the teen spectrum and students, like 15-21 or something) - I think people are very much still interested in sex / reading about sex.
     
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    You know most of the readers of 50 Shades were considerably older than that, typically 30's-40's. Anyway, sex is an enduring theme of life, the same as tragedy, personal identity, finding one's tribe etc are enduring themes of life. People will never be bored of exploring them in fiction and elsewhere. But as with all things the treatment of those subjects need to grow and change to suit humanity as it grows and changes.

    Some people will prefer to have the subject intimated in a story, others want the details, particularly if it's a kind of sex they themselves don't engage in but are interested in. Fiction is a safe place to explore idea's of interest without needing to put yourself in the line of fire.

    Sure in the wake of fifty shades a lot of me too titles are on the market and readers will become bored of the same theme over and over. But like everything, it will have it's day and fade back into the backround, but not die out completely. Fifty Shades became a phenonmenon not because it was good or interesting, but because it gave a lot of bored women a look at one particular facet of sex they hadn't dared to explore before. I was chatting to one of my coworkers yesterday who said she read the first book and was unimpressed with it, claiming it just became boring very quickly, had no real story to it and frankly she didn't buy the orgasm's from nipple tweaking and endless ejaculations in every scene.

    I've decided to frame my current WIP in the erotica category mainly because the sex adds to the plot and gives unique opportunities to deeply characterise the individuals concerned. A lot of fantasy adds that certain something with torture scenes, I have no stomach for that (I stopped watching GoT's for that reason) . Sex isn't necessary to make my story interesting, the plot was developed without it and stands on it's own. But it's the garnish which I have deemed appropriate for my story.
     
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