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    So we have Clinton running again

    Discussion in 'Debate Room' started by Jack Asher, Apr 13, 2015.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/13/us/politics/hillary-clinton-2016-presidential-campaign.html
    That might be behind a paywall, if you sponge off the New York Times too much, but as far as actual new sites there's really few better.

    So will we break the glass ceiling right after the race barrier, or will this take the whole party off a cliff. I knew people who had voted democrat literally all their lives, who couldn't bring themselves to vote for a black man. Will taking orders from a woman be worse enough to tank the Democrats chance at the White House? And what kind of new allegations will the Right come up with to hide their sexism?
     
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    I would sincerely be surprised if Clinton didn't want to run for the 2016 elections. She's been trying to become president since her husband left office in Jan. 2000.

    That said, we honestly have no idea who will be the final two contestants for the elections quite yet, just that there's a butt load of people vying to claim the prize in 2016.
     
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    *sigh* I am waiting for 2017.
     
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    She's got my vote. Not because I like her much (I don't, really), but because I can't see myself voting for any Republican candidate in the potential field. Today's Republicans are crazy and make me recoil in horror.
     
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    I'm actually considering not voting this election even if it's just Clinton vs. A Republican. I just...well, that's a topic for another day but needless to say...I'm out.

    Still, would be interesting to watch the news if it becomes clear that Clinton stands a high chance of winning. I also am curious as to what we'd call Bill Clinton now. The First Gentleman? Hilary as Madame President?
     
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    I remember Hillary cried when she lost in the Iowa caucus back in '08, yet she didn't shed a tear when she lost Bill's caucus to an intern. :superlaugh:

    That's my only contribution to this thread.
     
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    That won't help.
     
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    As I said, that's a thread for another day.

    Still, I'll be checking in on the elections from time to time especially toward Voting Day. I would be remised if I kept myself ignorant on the thing that's going to decide who will be running the US.

    Who knows, maybe someone will turn up and I'll find him (or her) fitting enough to earn my vote.
     
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    I'm think of running for President in 2032, and I hope you guys vote for me. The first thing I'll do is make sure WF gets a ton of funding. And I'll make sure the mods get paid handsomely. :D
     
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    ROFL!

    Superman gets my vote, of course.

    And you as well. I wouldn't mind being ruled by a squirrel in a dashing suit.

    @thirdwind - Let the era of thirdwind commence!
     
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    All of them or just in General?
     
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    I wish it wasn't just in general. I look back at Eisenhower - I could have voted for him. This pack of Tea Party people drive me crazy. I don't see anybody in the Republican field who wouldn't be a disaster for the country, I think. Anyway, I don't want to push this point too far.
     
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    Yep. Clinton is almost certainly too conservative for me, and she doesn't have the inexplicable charm of her husband to help her get things done, but if she's the candidate, she's getting my vote.
     
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    I can't be the only one hoping the Warren will run, am I?
     
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    I keep hoping Elizabeth Warren will run, but she keeps saying no, and I understand why. She really wouldn't have much of a chance in the general election and she knows it. Even if she gets the nomination, which she won't because Hillary is already anointed, she couldn't win the general. Maybe next time around.
     
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    I want Bernie Sanders to run just to get people talking. I know he won't win, but I think he'd bring an interesting aspect to the elections, being a self proclaimed socialist and all.

    As for Hilary, I don't know. I'm all for a woman president, and I think the country is ready for it. I just don't know about Hilary. Something about her rubs me wrong. I've been an Obama supporter since before he announced he was running (I'm from Illinois.. I can't count the numbers of times he helped my small community college, plus our state as a whole).

    But Hilary? I dunno... I'm on the fence. I'll need to see her debates and her stances and whatnot to make an informed opinion.
     
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    Are we even sure she'll make it to the final round? I'm just going to wait until closer to Election Day before hedging my bets.
     
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    'America's not ready for a black president. A woman, yes, but not a black man.' The Winged Fox, 2008 :bigoops:

    Useless prophet am I!

    But I think she'll get in.....
     
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    I think America is ready for several new types (non-white-male) of president. We're probably even ready for a gay president. The one kind of candidate these days who I think could NOT get elected is an atheist. Murricans love their religion.
     
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    No one progressive should support Clinton, either due to her politics or a sense of opposition to entrenched political power and having two families control the executive branch for so long.

    Same goes for Jeb Bush, though there is little chance of progressives supporting him.
     
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    You're suffering under a common misconception, that America was founded to put power into the hands of the masses. It was never true. Power was meant to stay in the hands of the elite few, and we're still seeing that today.
     
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    It's silly to me that so many see the presidential election as an opportunity for America to show off how progressive it is. Policy should be the only thing that matters at the ballot box. I'm rather indifferent to Hilary, but am not impressed by anything she's said (which isn't a lot) about her economic policy, and that usually dictates my vote. Being socially progressive but fiscally conservative inevitably leaves me dissapointed with major candidates in one way or another. Until the GOP abandons neoconservatism, drops the 18th century social platform, and cuts the Tea Party off like a diseased limb, I'll continue to be disillusioned with politics. Sadly, I'm not holding my breath.
     
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