Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Dagolas
    Offline

    Dagolas Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2012
    Messages:
    644
    Likes Received:
    68
    Location:
    France

    The Second Cold War

    Discussion in 'Debate Room' started by Dagolas, Dec 18, 2014.

    What do you think should be done?

    Refusing to shake Putin's hand and saying he's been a naughty boy isn't doing much, it's just probably fueled his desire to send a hydrogen bomb to America for Christmas.

    Should a war be done against Russia? Should we bend to their will and give them what they want?
     
  2. Chinspinner
    Offline

    Chinspinner Contributing Member Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2011
    Messages:
    1,918
    Likes Received:
    1,018
    Location:
    London, now Auckland
    Falling oil prices, sanctions and a currency in freefall is having the desired effect in Russia.
     
  3. Dagolas
    Offline

    Dagolas Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2012
    Messages:
    644
    Likes Received:
    68
    Location:
    France
    I don't think so. As I said, I believe Putin is viewing this as a mild bollocking and is still continuing to invade the Ukraine.

    I'd like to draw a parallel to Hitler: He invaded a few countries, and the league of nations, in their total BLINDNESS out of the fear of another war, let him, just for the sake of avoiding conflict. When he asked for Poland they started to get a bit frustrated, but Hitler took a leap of faith and invaded it. They then defeated him.

    But here they are even blinder, and the stakes are higher: the eradication of mankind with a nuclear war. I believe Putin could easily invade every single country Russia borders with and laugh at Mastercards not working in Russia as a means of sanction.
     
  4. Link the Writer
    Offline

    Link the Writer Flipping Out For A Good Story. Contributor

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2009
    Messages:
    11,205
    Likes Received:
    4,217
    Location:
    Alabama, USA
    This is exactly why we don't want a war with Russia. It would lead to World War 3 and make the second one look like a walk in the park.

    Look, I don't like this whole situation either, but I'm with @Chinspinner here. We don't need to go all gun-ho here.
     
  5. Dagolas
    Offline

    Dagolas Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2012
    Messages:
    644
    Likes Received:
    68
    Location:
    France
    "Should we bend to their will and give them what they want?"

    I don't think they'll give up at this point, the only other option I can see is to be Russia's b-ch. Another war would just make it a nuclear war, which would destroy the whole of mankind if one bomb was dropped. No one's pro-that.
     
  6. Ben414
    Offline

    Ben414 Contributing Member Contributor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2013
    Messages:
    974
    Likes Received:
    785
    The US and EU should be working more with China to reach a solution; if China stopped backing Russia, I think Putin would find his situation even more untenable.
     
  7. Dagolas
    Offline

    Dagolas Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2012
    Messages:
    644
    Likes Received:
    68
    Location:
    France
    China'll be harder to crack. I have no quarrel with siding with them if it means peace, but some of the more hippie type people won't like that fact they make children work (though between that and nuclear fallout, I'd choose a bit of slavery).

    I believe Obama has already visited China to make them turn against Russia, but I think all the other ex-prorussians could rally to Putin (Cuba, North Korea).
     
  8. MainerMikeBrown
    Offline

    MainerMikeBrown Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2011
    Messages:
    378
    Likes Received:
    60
    America being aggressive or passive with Putin is not something I'd advise. Instead, being assertive with him is the key.
     
  9. Chinspinner
    Offline

    Chinspinner Contributing Member Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2011
    Messages:
    1,918
    Likes Received:
    1,018
    Location:
    London, now Auckland
    Cuba has already come in from the cold.

    How about passive-aggressive?
     
  10. Ben414
    Offline

    Ben414 Contributing Member Contributor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2013
    Messages:
    974
    Likes Received:
    785
    I can see it now! Obama invites Putin to a meeting at the White House and when Putin shows up, Obama claims no knowledge of ever inviting him and sends him away. Then Obama tells Putin that all of the leaders of the EU and himself are throwing Putin a party on a remote island in the Pacific Ocean. When Putin shows up to find nobody there, Obama apologizes and claims that he "forgot."

    War averted.
     
    Lemex likes this.
  11. Dagolas
    Offline

    Dagolas Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2012
    Messages:
    644
    Likes Received:
    68
    Location:
    France
    Tell Putin that throwing away the nuclear bombs will make his hair grow back.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page