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    When Is It Okay To Commit Suicide?

    Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by HellOnEarth, Feb 3, 2007.

    Do you approve or disapprove suicide?
     
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    My 2nd part to this question is: who are the beautiful writers to have commited suicide?
     
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    Well, being pass suicidal myself, I feel that no I dont approve of it. There have been close times for me, but I am glad that I didnt die. It's hard to get other people feeling suicidal get that.
     
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    When you are suffering from a severe terminal illness with no sure cure, and months or years of agony. Or if you're about to commit some heinous crime against a fellow human being.

    Otherwise I can't see the reason behind suicide. Things can usually be overcome, or you can at least try to keep going and die in the attempt. Just killing yourself because you don't think you can go on is fairly cowardly.
    And I do have some idea about what I'm talking about.
     
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    I didn't know Jack London commited suicide.

    Why? WHY?

    Who other famous writer commited suicide?
     
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    lemony snicket
     
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    Suicide is just plain stupid, or just cutting in general. Why would you want to die? I've known people who cut, and it's all because their home lives are bad or their boyfriends broke up with them, which are two damn stupid reasons.

    For the home life thing, just get away from it. When you're 18, you have ever right to leave that house and get away, but before that time, just find friends to hang out with. If you don't have friends, hide in your room and lock the door, and turn the music up. There is absolutely no reason behind suicide at all in my opinion.

    I can admit, I've had those thoughts before when I was in junior high and freshman year, but I've never done it. It was just that feeling and thought that I had at the time. Now, I don't want to die, because I know that there are things in my future that will hopefully happen to make it all the more beautiful.
     
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    Never.
    Suicide is the cowards way out. Period.
     
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    Beautiful People who commited suicide:

    Actors
    Marilyn Monroe
    Freddie Prinze
    Jonathan Brandis
    Margaux Hemingway

    Musicians
    Michael Hutchenson (Lead Singer of INXS)
    Del Shannon (Singer of "Runaway")
    Kurt Cobain
    Elliott Smith
    Phil Ochs
    Nick Drake
    Frankie Lymon

    Writers
    John Kennedy Toole
    Jack London
    Ernest Hemingway
    Sylvia Plath
    Virginia Woolf
    Hunter S Thompson


    Others
    Adolf Hitler
    Bud Dwyer(The Politician That Shot Himself On Live TV)
    Sigmend Freud
    Meriwether Lewis
    Brutus
    Cleopatra
    Nero
    Spalding Gray
    Hannibal (The General)
    Vincent Van Gogh
    Frida Kahlo
     
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    Hitler...beautiful? Suicide probably takes more guts than living, after all, how many of you could slit your own wrist? I know I couldn't do it. I've had my struggles with depression...I managed to muddle through, it wasn't all that hard. Life was difficult, but there was always something that lit up my day...I would assume that other people have the same things happen to them.
     
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    Suicide is not right. In the end its your own decision but its NEVER EVER riight.
     
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    How about if you have chronic pain like bone cancer, blood cancer, or become a vegetable state like Terry Schiavo.
     
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    Let's just say your living in terrible poverty. No clean water.
    No food.
    No shelter.
    No education.
    Nothing to help you when your sick.

    Before this life of poverty, you were wealthy, loaded to the brim.

    Would you still not be able to slit your own wrist? I highly doubt it. I could go cut my wrist right now, if I wanted to. But I dont. Because suicide is for cowards and quitters.

    And that's all there is to it.
     
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    Personal Opinion

    Even if you are in a vegetable state, suicide would not be fair. You may wish to die, but your death will affect the others around you as well. It's not just about your problems.

    In the able person's case, if you are not dying already from some dramatic disease or horribly suffering in poverty, fallen on the streets, I think suicide is a complete load. Seriously. Like high school kids who want to kill themselves because of failed relationships? They will be pitiful, but also pathetic. Death is a complete dead end. Why go there? Continue on the road of life, not matter how rough it may be, and at least there's a point to reach, a destination.

    Life isn't completely tailored for you. Those who are happy are happy because they conquered their problems, not resorted to a cold and unjustified departure when they met difficulty.
     
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    i don't want to commit suicide... i don't want to die ugly..Lolzz
     
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    Nice impersonation.

    "WHY IS SHE SO BEAUTIFUL? WHY AM I SO UGLY!!??"

    *rippy rip stab slice*
     
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    It's always okay to commit suicide, it doesn't require anybody's approval. Nobody owns us.

    Cheers,
    Rob
     
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    Looking at it from a different perspective, and stretching the definition of suicide to mean more broad forms of causing one's death . . .

    If you martyr yourself, that's okay if the opposition is evil. I don't mean suicide bombers (may they rot in hell inshallah) - I mean, if you were to come to my secondary school and try shooting people, I would have no problem with risking my life to end yours.

    Likewise, if you are terribly old or at the end of a terminal illness, then I would not disagree with your decision.

    In most other cases . . . why would you? Technically, a person can start over; you could take your identification cards or papers, including birth certificate, and your savings, and leave. This is harder, perhaps infinitely so, and it is more complicated, but it can be done.
     
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    It's only us that think's that they're evil. To them, we are the ones that are evil. And, so what is evil and good? God knows, because it's all perspective. Theres nothing definite about it. Whats good to you, might be evil to someone else, and vice versa.
     
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    Frost Good and Evil may be questionable, but I still say put a bullet in the head of every suicide bomber that specifically targets civilian markets, restaurants, and night clubs.
     
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    You wouldn't think suicide bombers just want to die. They probably have to have suffered to have the will to even blow themselves up. Either that, or they're deluded. But when it come down to it, everybody is acting on their their perception of "right", and so the line between good and evil can't be exactly drawn. The infuriating and damned truth is that many innocents tend to be involved, and nobody likes that.
     
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    Yeah.
     
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    Well...

    I beleive if you want to die it's what you should do. You shouldn't go on griping about how much you hate life. One thing you should do before, though, is look around and ask yourself why. Wait three months, if you still feel like dying, go ahead.

    Hunter S. Thompson. Shotgun to the head.
     
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    Beautiful.
     
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    Sigmend Freud did the suicide thing, huhn? I never knew that.
     
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