First one, then the other. I start by buidling a skeleton frame. This is set and it's gonna provide the overall shape of the piece and I'm not going to change it because with my chaotic mind I'll need at least some imposed structure. Then I slap on clay. Putting in, as you'd call it. Tons. All I can get my hands on. Slap it on in huge, fat piles and no color or texture of clay is too poor or unsuited for being slapped on. Then I get my big, merciless scraping-device. Taking out, big time. Hoping that all the good lumps get to stay while I make the original design of the skeleton become visible again.