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    Why are/aren't you religious?

    Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by RusticOnion, Dec 10, 2011.

    I'm just wondering what everyones thoughts are on religious practices.

    What religion/s (if any) do you guys believe in?

    How strongly do you believe in it, do you think it's the real deal, or just the one you feel is most relevant to you?

    Do you believe in anything else? (Aliens, an "Answer", an Afterlife etc.

    Does your family support your beliefs?

    Do your friends?

    Feel free answering as many questions as you feel comfortable.

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    1. We are not arguing if one religion or belief is more plausible or real than any other.

    2. We are not judging people based off of their beliefs, it's there own opinions/values and they are entitled to them.

    3. We are not correcting other peoples concepts of there own beliefs for example telling a self-confessed Catholic what Catholics are supposed to believe in.

    4. We are not singling out individual religions for scrutiny.
     
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    I'm an atheist.
     
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    It would really be best if you didn't single out religions.
     
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    Edited my previous post down. I will play it safe here.
     
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    I am not religious in any way.
    There is one thing I am very proud of. It is that my country - Estonia - is the least religious country on Earth, roughly 16 percent, here, believe in God. Estonians are free thinkers, mostly.
    Made an easy googling and found an article on this, if anyone is interested. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2011/sep/16/estonia-least-religious-country-world
    The article mentions that Estonians' number of religious people is declining, that part makes me happy.
    Nature has always been a part of Estonians, I myself don't worship it, but I consider it as something to be treated with respect.
     
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    I'm an atheist, as is my entire family. I don't believe I need any kind of religion to help me through my life. Of course, several of my friends are religious, and it doesn't stop us from being friends and being friendly with each other in any way. I've no problem with them being religious, and the only way in which I can get caught up in an argument about it is if they initiate the argument.
     
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    I am an Atheist. My family are Christian, and my friends are a healthy mix of Atheists, Agnostics, Christians, Pagans and Muslims.
     
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    Oh dear, the new warning template comes out again so soon

    This is one of those controversial thread topics which we will take a very firm line on. Basically, it's been tried before and ended badly. I'm happy to give it a chance, but I'm placing a warning, right here at the beginning.

    Anything other than civil conversation on the topic WILL NOT be tolerated. If you can't say it in a respectful way, don't say it at all.

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    One thing I've always noticed about athesists is this adversarial way of looking at the two beliefs. There's this two sides of a coin obsession with proving to the other that they are right and the other, therefore, wrong. Logic is always a word that's bandied about. I mean, why even feel the need to "get caught up in an argument" if someone brings the subject up? Many atheists I've come across always make sure every single person knows that that's exactly what they are, and often the way that they denounce God and religion in general, is as arrogant and narrow-minded as someone who is fanatical. It's quite funny sometimes actually to just sit back and watch it
     
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    This is very true. I have to admit I find it more annoying though.
     
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    I'm not religious, but I don't consider myself an atheist. My family is Catholic for the most part, and I admit that I want to believe something is out there that listens when I need help, even if only to lend an ear. Of course, I also like to humor the thought of ghosts and aliens existing, but I'm not a fanatic and won't go, "GHOSTS DO EXIST! I FELT A PRESENCE IN MY ROOM!" Hey, maybe the ones that listen are the ghosts. =P
    And now I sound insane. Sorry everyone.
     
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    I consider myself Agnostic. I believe there is something out there and I keep an open mind about things involving the heavens, etc.
     
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    I believe there's something greater out there, and believe there is an afterlife.

    I don't feel the need to be a churchgoer or to identify, as such, strongly with my particular denomination (Roman Catholic). I can have a private relationship with God all the same, that transcends these things.

    Do I believe in 'anything else'? Yes, I think it's more than probable that we are not the only ones in this universe.
     
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    I'm irreligious. Agnostic probably, although I've been attacked for using that word. The line between agnosticism and atheism is only really clear if your atheist friend is having a go at your religious friend and you have to take a side. To all intents and purposes, the same problems arise from both secular worldviews.

    Many people brandish the atheist flag without considering its implications. If there is no divine legislator, why should I behave ethically? Who sanctions "good" behaviours? What makes them good, if not God? Why should I treat others well?

    Religion provides a solid answer to these questions. You should behave well because God commanded thus. Secular ethics can work nicely in terms of equality and so forth (so can some religious ethics, yo), but they tend to sport a gaping why-shaped-hole. Is there a point of living ethically without a why?

    There. That should get some people fired up.
     
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    Normally I avoid topics like this like the plague as they are troll magnets, but I'll give this one an honest try.

     
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    I like VM80 reply because it is the only I can identify with.
    I do not believe in religion because I do not see any use for it nor understand how it actually helps in living day to day.
    I consider religion pointless and therefore would wish for a world without it.
    But I do believe there is something out there and no I do not believe that UFOs exist.
     
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    ^Thanks, but I'm not quite sure how you agree with me? What part are you agreeing with?
     
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    I agree with all this

    I think it is the only way to make sense out of the mess religions or humans made out of concept that is god.
     
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    Well, let's see. My mother was a divorced Catholic, my father was a Lutheran turned atheist after he served in WWII. Us kids were raised Methodist - one brother and one sister was/are Catholic (but sister's kids were all Mormon); one other brother is spiritual only; another brother is atheist. I joined and raised my son in the Catholic Church, but he's now atheistic and I tend more toward Buddhism. I like going to church (any church) if I can sing the choir. God and I have a personal (and not always happy) relationship. I've been extremely angry with her at times; other time he's been right there when I needed him/her. I believe in an afterlife and reincarnation (in that our spirits return repeatedly until they have learned all the lessons they must, and that eventually we all end up 'absorbed' into God). I don't believe in hell.

    Check with me in a few years - I'll no doubt have made some more changes.
     
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    I'm agnostic. I think it is clear that reasonable, free-thinking people can fall anywhere along the continuum between atheist and devoutly religious.
     
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    I'm a Christian. It's hard to believe just how personally God can speak to you as an individual through your minister when you actually go and sit in the congregation. I personally have no doubt that Jesus was God and sent to pay for my sins.
     
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    And now, back to your regularly scheduled programming.
     
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    I'm not religious. I don't believe in God or Jesus or the Bible. But I don't like to call myself an atheist, because a lot of people seem to think that word means more than I think it means. I've talked to people who, when they find out I don't believe in God, start calling me a socialist and anti-American and a bunch of other things. They think the word "atheist" embodies all that. Ugh.
     
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    I am Agnostic. I think it is possible there is a higher power (just like anything else is possible). But I wont believe it without proof (just like anything else).

    I also believe there has to be other intelligent life in this massive universe we live in.

    Fun fact:

    My father has been a pastor (he is currently an Anglican Bishop) for over thirty-five years. He has never once pressured me into going to church; nor has he tried to force feed me his beliefs. He always let me think for myself. He also never forced me into going to church. In his words, "You will not get anything out of it unless you actually want to be there."
     
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    I'm an atheist. And a Marxist. And pretty anti-American at times. I'm pretty much the reason people think these things go together :p
     
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