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    Why don't we change?

    Discussion in 'Debate Room' started by Dagolas, Jul 9, 2015.

    Why doesn't the human race change it's ways? War, poverty, hunger, destruction?

    Friends! Fellow Members of the Human Race! We are gathered here for a purpose. Let us look together at Mankind. What do we see? We see Mastery. What wonders Mankind can perform. He can cross the oceans and continents today, as easily as our grandfathers crossed the street. Tomorrow he will as easily cross the vast territories of space. He can make deserts FERTILE and plant cabbages on the Moon. And what does man CHOOSE? Alone among the creatures of this world, the Human Race CHOOSES to ANNIHILATE itself. Since the last world conflict ended, there has not been one day in which Human Beings have not been SLAUGHTERING or wounding one another, in 200 and 30 different wars. And man BREEDS as recklessly as he lays waste. By the end of the century, the population of the world will have TRIPLED. 2/3rds of our plant species will have been DESTROYED. 55% of the Animal Kingdom. and 70% of our mineral resources. Out of every hundred Human Beings now living, 80 will DIE without ever KNOWING what it FEELS like to be fully nourished... While a tiny minority INDULGE themselves in ABSURD and EXTRAVAGANT luxuries. A motion picture entertainer of North America will receive as much money in a MONTH as would feed a starving South American tribe for a hundred YEARS! We WASTE! We DESTROY! AND, we cling like SAVAGES to our SUPERSTITIONS. We give POWER to LEADERS of State and Church as prejudiced and small-minded as ourselves, who SQUANDER our resources on instruments of destruction... While Millions continue to SUFFER and go hungry, condemned FOREVER to lives of IGNORANCE and DEPRIVATION. And why is this? It is because mankind has denied Intelligence, the unique glory of our species - the Human Brain. Man is entering an era of INFINITE possibility, still imprisoned in a FEEBLE, inefficient body... Still manacled by primitive notions of morality, which have NO PLACE in an Age of Science... Still powered by a brain that has HARDLY developed since the species emerged from the caves. Only a NEW intelligence can save Mankind! Only a new Human Being of PURE BRAIN can lead man forward into the new era.

    We don't even know why we're really here, yet we fight over tiny portions of a piece of rock surrounded in water. We care about small things, but not about others.

    We live in a world where having a scratch on your iPhone is sadder than an entire country being invaded and attacked, innocent people dying, families becoming smaller and smaller, women and men raped.

    We need humanity. We need change.
    And armchair socialists won't cut it.
     
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    Citations are good, even if you do acknowledge that you're quoting someone via a 'spoiler'. Especially on a writing site, we should be giving credit to authors.

    In this case... do you have anything concrete to suggest?
     
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    Quote is apparently from the movie, Britannia Hospital

    I'm not clear on the debate issue.
     
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    Yeah, I found the quote source as well. The movie was produced in 1982, so it was probably written when I was a young child or maybe before I was born. So any attempt to frame this as a 'brand new' problem is kind of broken from the start...
     
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    Maybe it's a thinly veiled attack on "armchair socialists?"
     
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    My thoughts exactly.

    So much so, I am aiming to write a trilogy on this very thing. It's what I have been researching non-stop since January this year. It is now an inescapable filter for everything I see, hear or read when it comes to "news".

    But first, I wish to write n=1..3 novels / novellas, for experience, and to give me more time to continue researching and compiling material for my main idea.

    Also: +1 to always cite your sources suggestions above.
     
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    Because it takes a long time for humanity to change? I mean, we're talking a race/species that spans several continents with currently 200+ countries and thousands (if not millions) of different cultures to go along with each individual countries.

    It's...not going to change overnight, humanity. Let me just put it out there for everyone involved; Humans aren't going to change overnight. It takes centuries, if not thousands of years to change.
     
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    This really seems like the setup for either a declaration of world domination or to sell someone an incredible new vacuum cleaner.
     
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    It's so thinly veiled it's like a sheet of clingfilm.
     
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    Huh. In the states it's "saran wrap". But my dad always refereed to it as "dammit".
     
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    To be fair, I like 'saran wrap' a lot more. There is something so boring and utilitarian about 'clingfilm' - but that's Britain for you!
     
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    Wouldn't have this so called PURE BRAIN kinda make us less human?

    I mean I'm hoping and I really think us as people are slowly making progress on issues that could be a threat in the future and hell are now.....we won't ever be perfect as we are flawed by nature just can't be. Our flaws are part of being human.

    I think it was Terry Pratchett or perhaps he got it from somewhere else but.

    If the quote

    "Where the falling angel meets the rising ape."

    Anybody know where that's from?
     
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    That quote is from The Hogfather, wasn't it? Yeah - I'm a Pratchett fan. :3

    There is a philosophical point of view, most likely Nietzsche's, that suggests war and misery and famines are actually good because they lead to the birth of great people and great art. It seems to be some kind of Hegelian thing, the french revolution gave us Napoleon, the English Civil War gave us John Locke and John Milton's Paradise Lost. I don't know how true that is for other cultures, European culture was founded on a war - the story of the Trojan war, at least. Even saying that, if it's true or not for European civilization is extremely debatable.

    But really, people are animals - we are just brilliant apes. What do you really expect of such a species? We are still to learn the wisdom of Socrates.


    Also, speaking of Nietzsche, isn't the so-called 'Pure Brain' in that quote an Ubermench? Wah-wah-WAH!
     
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    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=where+the+falling+angel+meets+the+rising+ape
     
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    YES!

    Hogfather!

    I loved that one! The Death books were always my second favorites of the series with the Guard books being first. Anyway what to expect of such a species? I expect some damn good banana related recipes!

    Ya know?

    That's the first time I ever got auto googled search hehehe
     
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    I have a friend whose banana daiquiri recipe would blow your mind!
     
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    See above posts for my point.
     
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    There's no real issue to debate posted by the OP and frankly, I predict disaster if the thread continues. Closed.

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