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    word constructions in English

    Discussion in 'Word Mechanics' started by Cacian, Nov 11, 2011.

    which words do you find stand out in English because of the way they are differently spelt from their common indicatives others.

    for example:

    BUTCHER
    MANAGER
    DRIVER
    COURIER
    they are all one word ending with ER

    but then we have

    FISHMONGER..was wondering about MONGER which in FRENCH means EAT is spelt MANGER but I am pretty sure it of saxon origin of VUlGARI because of the G usage which is common letter used by saxon vulgari speakers before it got mixed with English. INGLE is word the saxon used to refer to English people when they invaded England.
    I studied linguistics and this is what I was told that some letter like the G is from a vulgari makeup of sound/letters.

    HAIR DRESSER why DRESSER refers also to clothes and furniture.

    but then

    COOKER as oppose to COOK/CHEF(person and the act of cooking)
    CHEF to CHAUFFEUR kind of related!!


    two in one words:

    SINGER then SINGER the sewing machine.

    then totally different halfwords like SAXAcould it be related to SAXON?

    IC=X because the French pronunciation for X is IC.

    can you think of other words that stand out?
     
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    sorry, but i just don't get what you're getting at...
     
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    I was looking at how words are generally constructed.
    I study languages and letter formation in words.
    the way language has been set to for us to use is mindblogging , it is like minefield, the more I look at words the more I cannot believe it.
    I look at language the way mathematician looks at numbers, so unless Iknow what an number I won't be able to add.
    so I compare it to that.

    in this thread I was looking at the way descriptive words have been written.
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    a butcher these words are descripitive of a' job' and all end in ER, but if you want to say cooker then it means the actual gadget and a cook is instead.
    take fish you'd think you could say Fisher tofollow in the same lead of ER but instead we have a twoword word :FishMonger...

    SAXA is derived from Saxon.
    and X is pronounced 'IC' and so it could look like SAICA which for you could spell as ISAAC fi you wanted to for example for fun.

    so what I am trying to say a word is never what it seems.
    NEVER sounds like NEUFHEURE in French
    or
    YOU KNOW can come across as U NO right??
     
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    you're not going to find any nice, neat mathematical-like formulae for word construction in english, sorry to say... it's the most inconsistent language in the world, since it's made up of bits and pieces of so many others...

    you could drive yourself crazy trying to find the origin of all the inconsistencies...
     
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    hey I could not agree and so well worth having a good dig at the odd and not so odd words here and there.
    it keeps me on my toes and I am most amused.
    I can literally decipher any single word to an abosolute mayhem and then bring back again to normal again.
    here is one of my favourite
    uncle Sam Uncle Ben and Uncle Tom, you see that in a line would just seem repetitive but if you have a good dig at it you see as not as simple as it may seem rhyme wise.
    just something I do as I study languages and it is my passion.:p
     
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    what is it you 'could not agree' with?

    and how do you see 'uncle ben, uncle sam, uncle tom' as rhyming?

    i also study languages and etymology, which is one of my passions as well...

    i'm curious as to what your native tongue may be... i'm guessing one of those from the subcontinent... am i far off?
     

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