Determinism vs. Free Will

By Louanne Learning · Oct 7, 2022 · ·
  1. At first glance, determinism makes a lot of scientific sense. Everything has a cause and an effect, right? All our choices are constrained by internal (biological) and external forces over which we have no control. Right?

    Max Plank made a strong argument when he wrote: How can the independence of human volition be harmonized with the fact that we are integral parts of a universe which is subject to the rigid order of nature’s laws?

    Geesh. How can you argue with that? We are balls in the ping pong game of life. Right?

    It’s just that my instincts scream against this position. I feel free. I can adjust my attitude. I choose it.

    But I am privileged. My basic needs are met. My brain functions reasonably well. My closest relationship for forty years was to a man who at every turn made me believe in myself.

    My experience is just that—only my experience. Not everyone can free themselves from the causal influences of past events. But that some can is evidence in favour of free will. Right?

    Or was the can-do or the can’t-do hardwired into the DNA?

    But each of us is unique! There is no-one like me, or you, or any other. Hey Mr. Plank, harmonize that!

    I think determinism rubs me the wrong way because it takes away hope. I am big on hope. Where did my predisposition to hopefulness come from? Was I born with the mindset to never give up? Did I learn it? Or do I just have a strong survival instinct?

    And personal responsibility can only be a thing if there is such a thing as free will.

    I dunno. Gotta think more about it. What do you think?

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Comments

  1. Louanne Learning
    Maybe free will is an illusion. But people believe in illusions all the time. They say the past and present and illusions, too. If you believe in something, that makes it real. If you believe in your free will, the effect is the same as if you really had it. You act accordingly.

    What is that old adage? If you believe you can, you probably can, and if you believe you can’t, you probably can’t.
    1. Bruce Johnson
      This reminds me a lot of Newcomb's Paradox. I was discussing this with a colleague years ago, who is much more knowledgeable about these types of things, and we were both in agreement "Take box B only!" but many people think taking both boxes is the only rational choice.
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  3. GrahamLewis
    How about, simply, that we are free within limits, e.g., we are bound by the physical forces of the universe, but our thoughts -- or our souls -- or our consciousness are otherwise. That is, I can't fly, my body and being are subject to entropy, death is inevitable, and my body will someday return to the earth and all its elements will become something else. But so long as my consciousness is working "right" I am free to make choices within physical limits.

    Or, perhaps, simply, if one feels free one is free, logic and science and philosophy be damned.
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    1. Louanne Learning
      That's a really good way of explaining it. I think I am on the same page as you. We have obvious physical constraints, but we are free to imagine anything.
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