He said, she said - Mechanics of Dialogue

By Cogito · Jan 2, 2008 · ·
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  1. Dialogue is a prominent component in fiction, but is probably one of the least understood, at least in terms of punctuation. Before I dive into this though, I will offer this disclaimer:

    The discussion below follows the standards established for US English. In the UK, the roles of the single quote and double quote are often reversed, although the US English convention is still widely offered as the preferred form. Other systems exist as well; a largely obsolete French convention is to begin quoted dialogue with a dash in the left column, then a space, followed in turn with the dialogue.

    So far as punctuation within a quoted dialogue is concerned, you should always end the quotation with an ending punctuation before the closing quote. If the appropriate punctuation is a question mark or exclamation point, it remains unchanged, irrespective of what immediately follows the dialogue element.

    If the dialogue would normally end with a comma, you will almost certainly be following the dialogue with a tag (e.g. he said, or Eric whispered, etc.), and the comma should remain a comma. If the dialogue ends a sentence, that is it does not flow into a tag, and the dialogue would naturally end with a period, the period is again retained. However, if the dialogue normally ends with a period, and the dialogue has a tag appended to it, then you replace the period with a comma:
    When the dialogue ends a sentence, retain the punctuation that ends the quotation, but discard the punctuation that would end the full sentence, even if they are different marks:
    The dialogue itself is enclosed in double quotes, as shown above. If the dialogue itself contains quoted dialogue, the inner dialogue should be enclosed in single quotes:
    As noted above, it's not uncommon in the UK to see this convention reversed:
    Notice that the tag conventions are adhered to for the inner quotation as well, except that the final punctuation for the inner quotation is ommitted if there is a punctuation mark immediately following the inner quotation.

    In addition to tags, you should also understand beats. The purpose of a tag is to indicate who is speaking the dialogue item. A beat, on the other hand, is an action taken by the speaker before, between, or after dialogue fragments. It serves to insert a pause, while also connecting the dialogue to the person and to the scene:
    Note the absence of a comma. The beat is a separate sentence, unlike a tag, and begins with a capitalized word, even if it isn't a proper name as in this instance.

    Thought dialogue is a bit more controversial. The mainstream rule is usually that though dialogue is neither enclosed in quotes nor italicized:
    Again, the punctuation rules are still followed for the transition between the thought and the tag, excluding the quotation marks.

    In some instances, you may see the thoughts italicized, but that is not the preferred form, and should be avoided:
    Again, the preferred style in this case is not to italicize the thought dialogue, nor enclose it in quotes. Just enter it as normal text. The context should make it clear that it is literal thought.

    One other comment. Only one speaker's dialogue should appear within a single paragraph. If two or more speakers are conversing, it's important to start a new paragraph every time the speaker changes. You don't have to have a tag for each speaker, but make sure the context makes it clear who is speaking each time. Don't rely on published fiction to guide how often you need to identify the speaker, though. I have encountered many published works in which the author fails to indicate the current speaker often enough. If you find yourself backtracking to try to figure out who is speaking, the author has fallen short in his or her responsibility!

    If the same character speaks more than one dialogue fragment, they can go into the same paragraph, as long as the fragments express a single overall idea. If the second dialogue piece is a separate thought, it should begin a new paragraph. In this case you will certainly want a tag to make it clear you are not alternating speakers.
    Of course, if the same speaker is speaking a longer section of dialogue, it should be broken into paragraphs whenever the speaker progresses from one thought to another. Use the same rules for paragraphing dialogue you would use for paragraphing narrative. However, with continuous dialogue over several paragraphs, omit the closing quotation mark at the end of each continuous paragraph of dialogue except the last. Begin each paragraph with a quotation mark:
    I won't go into the more subjective guidelines of good dialogue here, other than to say, "Keep a good balance between dialogue and narrative."

    In this article, I have used verbs in tags other than said or asked. In practice you should not seek variety in the tag verbs. Tags using said or asked virtually disappear to the reader, and that is desirable. Tag verbs are syntacic glue, like articles and conjunctions, so there is no real need to vary them. Trung too hard not to repeat said or asked invariably backfires and sticks out like the proverbial throbbing swollen thumb.

    Another of our members, Terry Ervin (TWErvin2), has written an article on dialogue from a more contextual perspective: Dialogue Basics.
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Comments

  1. Diviance
    Awesome you really helped me out!
  2. OPTiiMUM
    Hi Cogito!

    After reading all your blogs, I would like to thank you for their helpfulness. I am a fairly new writer, but articles such as these increase my progress and improvements drastically!

    Thank you!
  3. Greg
    This was very helpful for me too! Thank you.
  4. TimWesson
    This post is simply brilliant. Thanks for ironing out the creases.
  5. Spacer
    You only covered the traditional US typesetting rules (which were designed to look good when typeset), call it the rule like it's sacred without other rulesets existing, and not the “rational” punctuation where what is inside and outside of the quotes is not to be messed with just to get better kerning. In some industries (e.g. software engineering) this is overwhelmingly preferred. I've also seen it called something like New Zealand style or something like that, so it may be the standard form in some parts of the world.
  6. cruciFICTION
    Just read this article; it's quite well written (though at the end, you've written 'trung' when I do believe you meant 'trying'.

    I am slightly averse to your terminology. I'd have expected at least one reference to 'dialogue attribution', but you only refer to them as 'tags'. I suppose it's not a huge issue, but the 'he said, she said, zhe said' stuff is correctly referred to as dialogue attribution.

    Just a thought.
  7. Cogito
    These rules have nothing to do with typesetting. They are US standards, but for manuscript, which is what you submit for publishing. Typesetting isn't writing. It's what is done to present writing after the writer is done with it. Even if you are self-publishing, it's a good idea to separate the writing from the typesetting
  8. Spacer
    A quick search turns up an example of what I was referring to:

    From “The rise of Logical punctuation”:
    If it seems hard or even impossible to defend the American way on the merits, that's probably because it emerged from aesthetic, not logical, considerations. According to Rosemary Feal, executive director of the MLA, it was instituted in the early days of the Republic in order "to improve the appearance of the text. A comma or period that follows a closing quotation mark appears to hang off by itself and creates a gap in the line (since the space over the mark combines with the following word space)."​

    The standard U.S. rules have everything to do with typesetting. It was done that way due to the aesthetic appearance of how these characters fit next to each other.

    If you were really separating content from presentation, as one might do on a web content server so it's not a silly point of view, the content of the quotation would contain exactly what's being quoted, including any terminal punctuation. Then some notation says “format this as an inline quote” and you get the proper marks surrounding it for your locale, etc.

    But there’s no practical way to do that when simply typing or handwriting some text. You use the quote marks when typing it, and have to commit to a specific locale’s conventions when doing so.

    Reviewing the page I cited above, I see that British usage follows “logical” punctuation rules too, and doesn’t simply reverse the roles of single and double quotes as you imply.
  9. Cogito
    Repeat: These are not typesetting matters. They are punctuation issues, with some capitalization refinements, and a couple of paragraphing guidelines. Typesetting is decoration for publishing. My article focuses primarily on American rules, with some mention of variations in some other English locales. Writers should, in general, not be concerned with typesetting at all. If the writer is self-publishing, typesetting should only be considered when the manuscript is complete, at which time the writer doffs his or her writer hat and dons the publisher hat. None of my articles on this site deal with typesetting, other than exclusionary points.
  10. aniolel
    Steven King, who is a pharamal writer, uses ilatics. Thus, I have considered do to as well. It makes stand out more.
  11. chesterchatfield
    As far as the rules on character's thoughts, I think it makes sense to leave out the quotes and italics if you're going to have "he/she thought" written out. But, I feel like a lot of the time when a character is musing the thought is just thrown in without the tags and when that happens I like the italics. I know that when authors put quotes around thoughts though I often find myself going back to check if it was said aloud, so that's an excellent tip.:)
    Also, thank you for the rules on end punctuation in dialogue! I've always been confused by that.
  12. Spacer
    If I write: The password is “redR0k.”
    or: Type carefully the command “rm -rf.”

    as opposed to having the period outside the quotes in both cases, how is that a typesetting issue that will be handled by the layout guy? So I suppose we agree that this is a punctuation matter, not typesetting?

    But you miss my point. The American Standard rules were designed not to be logical, but because they look better when typeset. You can find the history and story of how it evolved, yourself if you don’t believe my recollection or the attributed quote from the previous comment.
  13. jpaulsnow
    This cleared me up on "The Rules"

    I do however have this itching feeling that I get when I try to enter the mind of my target audience and I hear this conversation going down:

    Reader: "Hey book writer guy, this guy's thinking to himself but you didn't use quote markers and stuff."

    Author: "Yes, that is the correct way to do it."

    Reader: "Well it's making me stop and think about the fact that I'm reading a book instead of letting me get lost in the story."

    Author: "I'm sorry you have a problem with proper grammar, but I assure you this is the preferred method for such a thing."

    Reader: "Oh ok. Have a nice day." Reader drops book and walks away forever.
  14. Cogito
    This is pointless. What I cover in this article is writing, not typesetting. I don't miss your point, you aren't comprehending the difference between SPAG (spelling, punctuation, and grammar) and typesetting. Please do not continue to argue the point. Your comment has been noted, but it is off topic.
  15. MrSpike
    Thank you very much indeed.
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