TikTok, Dude!

By Earp · Sep 7, 2022 · 722 · 3

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The dark side (one of them, anyway) of social media:

A car theft challenge going viral on TikTok and other social media apps has led to a 767% increase in Hyundai and Kia vehicle thefts in the Chicago area since the beginning of July compared to last year, according to authorities.

In 2019 a little over 200 KIAs and 200 Hyundais were stolen statewide (Colorado). The following year, that number jumped to roughly 400 each, then doubled again in 2021, to more than 1,000.

Already in 2022, we are over 3,000 stolen KIAs and 3,000 stolen Hyundais.

The problem is limited to Kia products made between 2011 and 2021 and Hyundai products from 2016-2021 that use a plain metal key to start the vehicle. Vehicles that rely on a coded key fob and push-button starter are not subject to this exploit.

In general, this means of car theft has been well-known since cars first received keys as a security measure in 1910.
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I know way back for Ford some thugs figured out that the make only had so many different kinds of keys per year, if I recall correctly.

Anyway, stealing horses used to be punishable by death. Just throwing that out there...

Not the Territory, Sep 8, 2022
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2. I mean, you can also send people away to work camps. Death by any other name can even be preferable for a tyrant if martyrdom is a concern.
  
  Technically the US government does indeed have a federal override in the case of sentencing death. I'm not sure about Canada...
  
  Not the Territory, Sep 10, 2022
  
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3. Canada goes too far in the opposite direction. Karla Homolka, Vince Li....Not only do we not sentence people to death, we release them back into the population.
  
  Dave The Great, Sep 10, 2022
4. Well said, sir.
  
  Not the Territory, Sep 10, 2022
Pretty sure there's no 'federal override'. Usually people are tried for federal crimes (often unfairly in my opinion) and then the federal death penalty can apply.

Earp, Sep 10, 2022
I looked into it and there indeed are more restrictions than I thought.

From Wikipedia:

If murder is committed within the borders of a state, that state has jurisdiction, and in a similar way, if the crime is committed in the District of Columbia, the D.C. Superior Court (the equivalent of a state court in the District) retains jurisdiction, though in some cases involving U.S. government property or personnel, the federal courts may have exclusive jurisdiction.[10]

If, however, the victim is a federal official, an ambassador, consul or other foreign official under the protection of the United States, or if the crime took place on federal property or involved crossing state borders, or in a manner that substantially affects interstate commerce or national security, then the federal government also has jurisdiction. If a crime is not committed within any state, then federal jurisdiction is exclusive, for example vessels of the U.S. Navy or the U.S. Merchant Marine in international waters and U.S. military bases worldwide. Recently, the Supreme Court, in the McGirt decision, reaffirmed that major crimes within the reservation boundaries of Native American tribes, for which a tribal member is suspected, must be investigated and prosecuted by the federal, not state, government. Federal penalties will apply if found guilty.

In addition, murder by a member of the United States Armed Forces of a prisoner while under custody of the United States Armed Forces is in violation of Article 118 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and can result in the perpetrator being tried by a general court-martial, subjecting to certain types of jurisdictions within its own borders or with foreign nations.

Jurisdiction over the crime of murder can be complex as a result of the principle of "dual sovereignty" that is part of federalism. In cases where a murder involves both state and federal jurisdiction, the offender can be tried and punished separately for each crime without raising issues of double jeopardy, unless the court believes that the new prosecution is merely a "sham" forwarded by the prior prosecutor.[11] In the United States there is no statute of limitations on the crime of murder.[12]
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"Major threat to national security" gives a lot of room for play, especially in regards to Dave's notion of it being used tyrannically. My original point was that it's always been an option and there have always been simpler options that anyone with sufficient power will have access to. For a modern example look at how Putin handles his political adversaries.

Not the Territory, Sep 11, 2022

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